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SHENMUE 3 kickstarter (PC/PS4) - FINAL DAY - NEW KS RECORD GO GO GO!
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AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
I think that is a possibility, but it sounds like these three areas are in Shenmue III, regardless of funding. Extra stuff could go into Shenmue IV, though, like the battle systems and extras, but I want all three areas fleshed out like Shenmue I's areas.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Tell ya what guys, if you are going to cash in on selling old copies of Shenmue and Shenmue 2 then pledge that money to Shenmue 3.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Yep.
I really hope everyone here is flooding his twitter or leaving comments on his recent videos. He doesn't even have to do a play through - just ask him to mention Shenmue III in a video and get him to ask his followers to donate like $5. The guy has 37 million followers, if he did that it would be an instant $2 million+ boost. Something like that is exactly what we need right now.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2004/08/03/shenmue-goes-online
There was a more recent article mentioned how they loss that money but I can't find it. The game got canceled 2 years after that announcement, and the game already had 1 year of dev time before that unveil.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Man, those delicious stretch goals now are making me sad. They are so awesome sounding and so so far way. 
Elfforkusu
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Ghost_Messiah
Member
Shenmue 3 will be remembered as the most successful video game Kickstarter in history. The game will almost certainly be a moderate success when it's released. Yu Suzuki's intentions are to create Shenmue 4 and even a potential Shenmue 5 providing Shenmue 3 is sufficiently successful. I believe this resurgence makes that success almost assured meaning I wouldn't be surprised if Shenmue 3 successfully reignites the series and permits more games later on allowing him to truly realise his vision for the saga.
Call me an optimist but with Sony's backing (for example showcasing the game and giving it the stage again at next year's E3 along with the promised marketing muscle) Shenmue 4 and 5 should theoretically happen in the future. This is what I hope at least. I'd love two or three more games in this universe and a true ending to the story. Throw in HD re-releases of Shenmue 1 and 2 (please Sega) and the saga will then be complete. This is one of the best things to happen to gaming in years particularly if more games are made after 3.
I really dont like the way they're managing this kickstarter. Im calling it right now, there is no way it will get 10 million with the anemic pledge rewards this KS has. How do you have no pledge rewards between $500 - $3000? What incentive is there for people to pledge a lot of money if they dont want the jacket?
Why do they even need 10 million anyway?
Why do they even need 10 million anyway?
New pledge rewards are coming. Most likely to coincide with Suzuki's appearance on twitch tomorrow.
this is something people have been asking for them to do something about, it would be good if they expanded pledge rewards between 500 and 10k, but we'll wait and see for Suzukis twitch stream tomorrow
they also definetly need to add paypal support or something, they already improved it a bit, but obviously it'll take time
i really hope we can reach some of those stretch goals by the end of the KS
loaf of bread
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I will say the stretch goals do not seem very modest at all. I'm guessing all the stretch goals between 5 and 10 million are basically going to be the two villages shown in the video.
200,000 between stretch goals that basically just say "extra mission" "extra battle" seems excessive.
200,000 between stretch goals that basically just say "extra mission" "extra battle" seems excessive.
KingofGourds
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Those new stretch goals really make it seem like the full Shenmue experience we all want is only possible at $10 million. To me they're more than stretch goals, they are requirements, which makes the initial $2 million ask somewhat baffling. I know it was to set an achievable barrier of entry, but still, if people want the Shenmue they remember just ask for how much you need to actually make that happen.
What's the point of having one village be fully realised and the rest not?
New stretch goals will give it a boost and from the sheer fervour of Shenmue fans willing to up pledges I reckon the late boost for this will be quite high. $7 million is the top end of realistic I reckon.
No way they aren't going to set up a post-KS donation system, from that point it'll gradually make its way to the $10 million number.
Gimme a tier with some replica mirrors and I'm all in.
What's the point of having one village be fully realised and the rest not?
New stretch goals will give it a boost and from the sheer fervour of Shenmue fans willing to up pledges I reckon the late boost for this will be quite high. $7 million is the top end of realistic I reckon.
No way they aren't going to set up a post-KS donation system, from that point it'll gradually make its way to the $10 million number.
Gimme a tier with some replica mirrors and I'm all in.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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New graph up to date.
Might make a backer graph as well.
Might make a backer graph as well.
Thaedolus
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Setting the budget at X doesn't mean X was spent or wasted if it was canceled shortly into the project. I find it extremely improbable they actually spent that, even if that was the original budget.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
New graph up to date.
Might make a backer graph as well.
Seems like it'll hit 6.5 million tops.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
There is really no way to know. Too few other similar Kickstarters to say there any sort of definable trend. None of them were a threequel to a game almost nobody played, either, regardless of how rabid we are as a fanbase.
The only way this gets past Bloodstained, in my opinion, is the introduction of something tangible or worthwhile to get the $29 backers to bump up to $60, and $60ers to jump to $100 or more. I know there will be more backers coming, but those will be severely limited in number. They need to focus on moving people between the tiers. If they do so, They could end up around 6 million...maybe. Otherwise, I can't see it beating Bloodstained at this point.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Yeah pretty much. 5.7 million is my guess. 6.5 million seems like the absolute most it will make at this point, so I REALLY hope one of the following happens:
1. After Sony see's the total raised they'll put in the rest to make it to 10 million.
2. They open up PayPal and the fans eventually get the donations up to 10 million before the game is too far into development.
Both of these are very possible. It's not all doom and gloom.
Gamezone
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They "dont`t" because the game will happen anyway. But if you want an open world, they need the 10 million budged.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Yu Suzuki has got to realize there are about 40,000 rabid people willing to carry the funding over $10 million or more, it is just going to be commensurate with the length of time we are allowed to give. Sure, I can give a couple hundred bucks right now, but if you allow me to donate, I would easily through 20-30 bucks a month or more to get this game to be Suzuki's completed vision.
I want it all. Why should we have to sacrifice even one iota if we can get the funding there eventually?
I want it all. Why should we have to sacrifice even one iota if we can get the funding there eventually?
I remembered it wrong before I dug up that article up, as I recall another article mentioning it was money lost. Still had a dev time of about 3 years, I wouldn't call that canceled shortly into the project.
Until something else beats it. For the previous game with the most successful Kickstarter (Bloodstained) this took about a week.
Also it's not even close to being the most successfully crowd funded game of all time, Star Citizen is at over $80 million dollars funded.
I just love how the last fucking goal is a MAGIC MAZE. Like what the fuck. They dropped the mic on that last goal.
The priority listing! Seriously?! Why should we bother with that stretch goal? What's the deal? Where's the info??!
SERIOUSLY HAS ANYONE SPOKEN OR MESSAGE YU SUZUKI ABOUT ALL OUR CONCERNS AND SOLUTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS?! I sound like a broken record here - people are talking but they are doing jack shit!
I'm off to contact them...! Something needs to be done!
*walks out and shut door*
Suzuki's doing a twitch stream tomorrow to go over details of the new stretch goals.
Orthogonal
Member
True, but that was not raised in a Kickstarter, that is over years of regular donations.
This kickstarter is making me scratch my head.
I thought asking for 2 million would get us all the gameplay features now they are stretching to 11 million and looking at the list I would want all of them in the game if ARE making it.
I hope SONY step is and really helps.
They should have started 11 million and the list from day one.
I pledged 60, I could have pledged more if I knew they were seeking 11 million...
whats next, I upgrade my pledge to 100 and then they have a 12 million stretch goal... different colored dvdss....
I thought asking for 2 million would get us all the gameplay features now they are stretching to 11 million and looking at the list I would want all of them in the game if ARE making it.
I hope SONY step is and really helps.
They should have started 11 million and the list from day one.
I pledged 60, I could have pledged more if I knew they were seeking 11 million...
whats next, I upgrade my pledge to 100 and then they have a 12 million stretch goal... different colored dvdss....
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Okay so is Sony helping with total funds or not?
$2m? To make basically a AAA game? Add in fees and rewards and it would be maybe $1.5m....
I also feel like my chain is being pulled at this point. On the other hand, I am getting so many status updates on the Kickstarter via e-mail that I almost can't keep up with them - so they're definitely taking this seriously. The stretch goals are a bit silly, though.
I mean, it makes you wonder - is he not putting "open world" as the final stretch goal because it's entirely plausible that outside funding could make that a reality if they get close to it, anyway?
Has he stated how long before he gathers a team together to begin hands-on development - and can this game actually be completed in the scope envisioned within the two years they've set up for a tentative release window?
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Asking for only 2 million from the start is hands down the biggest mistake they've made. And I really hope Sony steps in too. Once the kick-starter is done we have to really start hounding Sony to help cover some development costs.
When it comes strictly to the development (making the game as good as it can be) no - they've said that this is pretty much all up to Yu Suzuki and the backers. Once the kick-starter is over, who knows what Sony will do. I mean if they said they were going to put some money in now it might scare off some potential donations.
For Yu Suzuki's sake, he need to go over EVERYTHING and make the twitch stream a big fucking deal as every media including us will be taking huge notes from it.
Also, the person who is in charge of the kickstarter page better get his pen/notebook ready to take down ALL information from us in effort to improve that page because that person has been sloppy. Sorry but it has been 12 days since Shenmue III's announcement and the kickstarter page work has been bog-standard - heck look at the design of it now as it has two stretch goal tables on one page! Shenmue III is FAR TOO BIG for this level of work and management hence the annoyance.
We ALL want Yu Suzuki to succeed which is why all of us are so passionate, but when we see really obvious flaws then that does nothing but angers all of us. It's like parents wanting their child to succeed in an exam but the child isn't doing enough preparation for it, it infuriates the parents as they want nothing but the best and they know their child can do better.
Come on, guys! Fix up. We want to support you more and more but you need to help us to help yourselves.
AstroNut325
Member
At this point in time, with the information we have, Sony is NOT helping by providing funds. At least not in any substantial form. The game is funded almost entirely by this Kickstarter.
You know... there is ALWAYS moar!
Alex_Mexico
Member
I was this passionate over Bloodstained as many of you are over Shenmue III and the biggest complaints about that KS was that they didn't update the stretch goal list fast enough and that they revealed too few of them every time we climbed the ladder. But other than that it still became a smashing success.
I see Shenmue's KS and realize that our complaints over BS's were insignificant in comparison. Igarashi and company had their shit together.
I see Shenmue's KS and realize that our complaints over BS's were insignificant in comparison. Igarashi and company had their shit together.
shinobi602
Member
Reading so many posts in this thread, ya'll are blowing this WAY out of proportion. It's already funded, the game's happening, it's on track to continue climbing given the comparison to every other big KS game as seen above, and I have absolutely no doubt they'll open up secondary funding after the KS is over and done with. Jesus, you guys need to relax lol.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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Broke down the previous top game Kickstarter's sales by when it got the most money(First 3 Days, the middle or the last 3 days). Do note that because of how I recorded the data (only recorded the thousandth spot and above to keep my sanity, so between 10K-20K got added to the final day to adjust for the missing numbers) the final day might be higher by 1% and the middle days might be lower by 1% then they really are.
And no I'm not adding Yooka to the other graph, since I really don't have the sanity to convert pounds into dollars for all 47 days.
And no I'm not adding Yooka to the other graph, since I really don't have the sanity to convert pounds into dollars for all 47 days.
Nightengale
Member
The only tangible issue with this KS is the less than perfect roll-out/management and part of that is perception due to the fact that we just came off Bloodstained.
openrob
Member
Yeah, negativity, that's exactly what we need right about now!
Let's get behind these new goals and push every gamer we know who may be interested in something completely unique to pledge anything on this campaign that they can.
I don't want to call anyone out or anything, but there was someone a few pages back lamenting that they couldn't help the campaign out. If you don't have $5, $10, or $29 dollars to spare on something you "love," then you need to get off the Internet and make some money.
I myself have taken up MTurk again and all funds earned from now until the end of the campaign go to Shenmue III!
It is Shenmue-mother-fucking-III people. This isn't some garbage flavor-of-the-month indie game that everyone will forget about within a month from release. SHENMUE III.
The continuation of all of this beauty:
SHENMUE III
DONATE!
Dig Deep!!
YEAHHHH!!!!
NoFaceNico
Member
Well... have you considered that maybe most of the people interested in it have already pledged and the ones who haven't just aren't interested? Think about it, just because the game met it's $2 million goal that doesn't mean it would just as easily make a $10 million goal. I'd hate it if the goal was $10 million from the start and see you guys scrambling to get the game made at all. Just because we make more web banners and hashtags that doesn't equal more backers, that money has to come out of the pocket of someone who wants to see Shenmue III made. Maybe this really is as much as it can crowd fund right now.
Also, a lot of people are throwing around the idea of a PayPal donation after the KS. That could be bad. Your money is safer (just barely) with KS because of the terms of service. But with PayPal they don't even have an obligation to disclose how much they receive and there's no agreement or TOS with a donation. By the time the KS campaign is over they'll know if they need to deliver an "open world" and I'm sure that's not something that can be easily tacked on at the end if PayPal donations finally get to $10 million.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
BUT WILL IT REACH 10 MILLION?!? HUH? WILL IT?!? **freaks out**
loaf of bread
Member
What are they thinking though with those stretch goals though? Do they really expect to get double the amount of the highest funded game on KS? I mean the final stretch goal would put this game at the number 3 most funded Kickstarter ever
Probably... but many of us, including myself, are reacting because we want the KS to do better. We want many things to be done to the best of our knowledge for a massive game like this rather than to be done poorly. Doing things with halve dedication is call "tick boxing" or "signing off". We don't want a tick box (many games, despite their massive budget, end up become bog standard or boring to the "tick boxing" attitude of the developers), we want things to be done well and if it doesn't work out then at least no one can say that they didn't try because they did. Correction, "we" did.
Also, we don't know the amount the second funding will be. For all we know, it might just be enough to pay the bills of Yu Suzuki and his team. It's best not to be complacent with that notion and do the very best we on the "now". I hope you understand.
I strongly believe because Sony will have it handled.... but they will handle it depending on how successful the kickstarter is. If it is very successful (may need to go beyond $6 million) then you'll get a physical disc, but if it ends at $4 million then you get a digital copy only. That's the most feasible reason.
loaf of bread
Member
I hate the 3 million gap between Baisha and Choubu. I want a big open world more than I want a better battle system. Choubu/Bailu should be right after 5 million and end at 8 million.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
The things is, why at the least not a special physical kickstarter edition for the PS4? Just look at the Bloodstained backers and how the higher tier physical copies got more backers.
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