Tricky I Shadow
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It would help a ton if they did.
And I can't stress enough that Yu Suzuki needs to know that we don't mind waiting until we get to 10 million dollars before he starts making the game. This needs to be made clear!
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It would help a ton if they did.
And I can't stress enough that Yu Suzuki needs to know that we don't mind waiting until we get to 10 million dollars before he starts making the game. This needs to be made clear!
From what I gathered from the thread:
- Kickstarter Marketers are the worst people they could have got.
- People hate guy with beard.
- I was right to sleep.
- Money was earned anyway.
- #DreamIsDead.
All of the pledges are trolls, they have actually only raised $1.2 million. Shenmue III may have to be cancelled - trolls vindicated.
NoFaceNico
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That's exactly what I've been saying. Everybody says opening a PayPal will solve their problems. HOW?!?! They have a Kickstarter, there's no better way to throw money at this project or increase your pledge. There's no accountability with PayPal, they have no obligation to even disclose how much they get in donations or even abide by the same funding plan laid out in the Kickstarter.
I see that some of you feel that this will allow you to pledge more over time and get it to $10 million, but the features you want from that goal, like the whole "open world" idea, are not easy to implement in the middle of development and they sure aren't going to wait and see if PayPal donations reach $10 mil. before they starting development.
Edit:
I guess I've been proven wrong
Great. Let's let another entry into the Shenmue series sit in development hell AGAIN.
The project will be in the early pre-production stage for at least a few months after the Kickstarter is complete. There will definitely be time to feed more money into it.
HOWEVER, I think it is misguided for people to be so focused on the post-Kickstarter phase when the campaign isn't even halfway over yet.
Elfforkusu
Member
They can ramp up staff if the donations keep coming in, though. Since it's (mostly) planned out, it should be possible to be flexible with the scope of the game. Bear in mind that development will happen over the course of two years.
e.g. "we got an extra million over the past two months... uh, let's add some stuff to those villages"
Basically, a well run paypal would make this thing fly even if
it comes in short of $10m. The emphasis there is on "well run", though.
e.g. "we got an extra million over the past two months... uh, let's add some stuff to those villages"
Basically, a well run paypal would make this thing fly even if
when
finalflame
Member
We all know there's absolutely 0% chance this will hit $10m right? Still pumped to see where it goes, but there is no chance it'll hit the 10m.
Theonik
Member
There is still a faint glimmer of hope. Let's not give up!
NoFaceNico
Member
Let's see how the $30 on the 3rd works out, that'll be a perfect barometer to gauge the interest in something like that. It's a massive undertaking because you would need thirty three thousand people (33,334 to be exact) to donate $30 just to get up to $1 million. I know we've been waiting for Shenmue, but I have a hard time believing thirty three thousand people are that eager. If anyone does that for just one year, you would be paying $360 in PayPal donations alone.
I know some projects are making this crowdfunding look easy but we are still talking about millions here, that's a lot of money.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Waiting an extra 6 months would put it in development hell? WAT? Waiting it out for a little longer to make a better game would 100% be worth it.
Never say never. Kicktraq still has it trending towards 10 mil.
There is a huge appitite for higher tiers, so if they add more of those, and improve low-mid level tiers (physical PS4 delivered by Sony?), add a bunch more information both on what Shenmue is, and what Shenmue III will be, I can see it going well above 7 million.
Perhaps, if they add more platforms, include 2001-2003 Dreamcast/Xbox early Shenmue 3 development footage, have Sega announce separate HD remasters, and go all out with the campaign, they could go a few million higher.
Man I'm surprised this kickstarter has stalled so much. Bummer for the people who were wanting this. Seems like they're either not showing up, or this is more niche than people thought.
Really weird. Not chilling in myself as I'm not a fan. But I expected much more. At least sega / shenmue fans can finally chill, but I wish this had gone better
Really weird. Not chilling in myself as I'm not a fan. But I expected much more. At least sega / shenmue fans can finally chill, but I wish this had gone better
Uh, it's on track to beat out Bloodstained and end up the most successful gaming Kickstarter of all time.
Not good enough for you?
Theonik
Member
It's on track to be the most successful game Kickstarter in history and to be in the top ten Kickstarter projects period. It is very successful, on the backs of the fans will alone.
We like to rant about it not being as good as we wanted it to be and we want the maximum amount of money possible, perhaps because we are fans but by any realistic metric the results are good.
the drop was still too aggressive.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Guys, please keep pushing $30 on the 3rd!
I'm all for this. I just thought that if they started to make the game straight away that the additional funds might not make much of a difference since it would be too late to change the game.
I'm all for this. I just thought that if they started to make the game straight away that the additional funds might not make much of a difference since it would be too late to change the game.
Progress of all kickstarters so far has been shaped as a u graph.
Very high pledges at the start and end, and low pledges throughout the rest of the campaign. Shenmue III is still on track to become the most successful gaming KS (not counting Ouya).
Also, you need to remember that Kickstarter does not reach the entire audience. A lot of people just do not do crowdsourcing, or cannot due to credit card restrictions.
Also the longer the delay it the more it costs. Renting buildings and keeping staff isn't free! We are already getting Shenmue 3 which is just awesome. Lets just all help advertise the Kickstarter and hope it can reach its full potential rather than focusing on numbers and strategies.
A lot can change over the development period as well so maybe they can source some other funding later down the line if stretch goals aren't met or add some features as DLC if it sells well enough!
ShenmueDojo
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Twitch Q&A video for who missed it. (Potato quality warning)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZm-HzCVzL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZm-HzCVzL4
Theonik
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MilkyOctave
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The stream certainly had issues, few minutes of echo, flickering, reading questions from Twitch chat (of all places?) and crazy red shirted guy.
After the successful Bloodstained campaign, I wish DDM and Fangamer were handling the PR and the kickstarter project instead of Awesome Japan.
I kind of appreciate that they moved the stretch goals to top of the page (as it was painful to scroll down). Indifferent about the new stretch goals, but I'm interested to see how high it reaches.
After the successful Bloodstained campaign, I wish DDM and Fangamer were handling the PR and the kickstarter project instead of Awesome Japan.
I kind of appreciate that they moved the stretch goals to top of the page (as it was painful to scroll down). Indifferent about the new stretch goals, but I'm interested to see how high it reaches.
Ryo Hazuki
Member
Was really happy to see the new tiers and glad they gave the campaign a boost. Now they just need to add some that don't have a limit. Yesterday was a good day for that alone so I'm hoping they can keep it up.
Theonik
Member
I had to tell Cedric to tell them directly on Twitter to do that one when he said he was meeting with Yu to discuss the state of the KS page.
There will always be some people who can't use Kickstarter's payment system and want to use paypal, but honestly in every other kickstarter like this the Paypal money doesn't amount to that much. It would probably bring in an extra $100-200k during the campaign at the most.
You can't really trust Kicktraq for a kickstarter like this, it just averages out the amount of money made per day so far and puts what the total would be if the average continues to be the same for the entire period of the kickstarter. Obviously the first few days of this kickstarter were so high that it's causing the average per day to be much, much higher then it should actually be for the calculation. I would guess the $5-6 million range is much more likely.
Well then, make sure to let him know that Awesome Japan are doing a terrible job so far, and that they're hurting the campaign more than helping it...
Old kickstarter-page model looks better than the newly revised one to me. His eyes, jawline, and gaunt looks really strange in the new.
I wonder if they still have the old clay sculptures they can just re-scan into models...
Theonik
Member
I am not sure what this would solve at this point!Well then, make sure to also tell him that Awesome Japan are doing a terrible job so far, and that they're hurting the campaign more than helping it...
He still looks too white, i'm really not happy with the way he's currently looking.Old kickstarter-page model looks better than the newly revised one to me. His eyes, jawline, and gaunt looks really strange in the new.
I've been wondering that for the last few days myself.wonder if they still have the old clay sculptures they can just re-scan into models...
Stats updated. Added the numbers I used per request.
https://shenmuetalk.wordpress.com/stats/
https://shenmuetalk.wordpress.com/stats/
I didn't even notice that, now i feel even more depressed.
Haunted
Member
dat fanta sponsorship money tho
Theonik
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They can't even down the drink like Ryo for the stream.
Old kickstarter-page model looks better than the newly revised one to me. His eyes, jawline, and gaunt looks really strange in the new.
I wonder if they still have the old clay sculptures they can just re-scan into models...
Nah. I think he looks closer to his original look in the new version. But... one thing bothers me: He's supposed to have black hair.
Old kickstarter-page model looks better than the newly revised one to me. His eyes, jawline, and gaunt looks really strange in the new.
I wonder if they still have the old clay sculptures they can just re-scan into models...
His leather jacket doesn't look like leather, he looks way too 'American/White' if that makes sense and what happened to his black hair
Why not just take the old model and try to start from there
If that model exist, production has already started. ^_-
Haunted
Member
eeeh
It's a racing game so you never really see him in detail, it's so low poly that the comparison doesn't really make much sense.
Meaningless semantics, but target renders and concept models are also being built during pre-production.
I don't think full production has started yet (but I haven't actually watched the Q&A so maybe they said something about that).This type of attitude is not helpful at all.
Holy shit. Was that guy on drugs? That's hilariously bad.
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