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[kame-sennin]

Yeah, not sure why you'd do a 72hr notice if you have a video that shows a murder.

I have no idea if they have anything, but there is a good reason for the deadline. Releasing the info opens them up to all sorts of criminal liability. Giving the police time to release the video allows them to get the truth out without opening themselves up to prosecution.

 

[Rembrandt]

I am not victim blaming in the slightest. I'm saying sometimes you compromise to do what will give you the best outcome in the moment. She shouldn't HAVE to respond that way, but it's just the fact of the situation. Would you rather react in a heated way and possibly stir up issues with it because the law enforcement doesn't respond appropriately either? I'm saying choosing the road of less strife or conflict is the better option, then pursue a course of action legally. Given the recent issues surrounding police brutality and abuse of power, it's not worth it to chance it, so just comply and address it with the courts. I have complied with officers every time I've been stopped, and always was able to get it worked out, even if I still got the shaft in the end.

They're not mugging or stealing from you so WHY must you react? To prove a point and possibly get shot? Deal with it in the safest most appropriate manner possible considering how volatile the police seem to be currently.

I am not black/African American.

ok

 

[Stinkles]

I am not victim blaming in the slightest. I'm saying sometimes you compromise to do what will give you the best outcome in the moment. She shouldn't HAVE to respond that way, but it's just the fact of the situation. Would you rather react in a heated way and possibly stir up issues with it because the law enforcement doesn't respond appropriately either? I'm saying choosing the road of less strife or conflict is the better option, then pursue a course of action legally. Given the recent issues surrounding police brutality and abuse of power, it's not worth it to chance it, so just comply and address it with the courts. I have complied with officers every time I've been stopped, and always was able to get it worked out, even if I still got the shaft in the end.

They're not mugging or stealing from you so WHY must you react? To prove a point and possibly get shot? Deal with it in the safest most appropriate manner possible considering how volatile the police seem to be currently.

I mean, you're kinda missing the point. It's not that everyone should behave a certain way around cops just to get through the ticket - it's that a particular segment of people is treated differently and in unpredictable ways. This isn't paranoia or opinion. It's borne out by research and data and scandals time and time again.

Basically it's as if Pugs sniffed and snorted around white people and wagged their curly tails, but around black people 25% of the time they sprouted venomous fangs and got jumpy.

 

[Kid Kamikaze10]

A little context as to why many of us aren't exactly trusting the police, not even for a potential suicide.

In 2014, Florida recorded at least 346 deaths inside of their prison system, an all-time high for the state in spite of the fact that its overall prison population has hovered around 100,000 people for the five previous years. Hundreds of these deaths from 2014 and from previous years are now under investigation by the DOJ because of the almost unimaginable role law enforcement officers are playing in them.

This isn't new. Not in the slightest. And going even further back, there's a history of officers having their way with black people in jails and prisons.

 

[kronose]

I mean, you're kinda missing the point. It's not that everyone should behave a certain way around cops just to get through the ticket - it's that a particular segment of people is treated differently and in unpredictable ways. This isn't paranoia or opinion. It's borne out by research and data and scandals time and time again.

Basically it's as if Pugs sniffed and snorted around white people and wagged their curly tails, but around black people 25% of the time they sprouted venomous fangs and got jumpy.

I completely understand the point. It's why I was saying, while its not justified and how the situation should be, you should do everything in your power in the moment, to comply. It's unfortunately how things appear to be in their current state because of police reactions. I'm not justifying police reactions, and by all means you can feel different in how you think people should respond, but I feel that because of today's circumstances, if in a traffic stop, comply as much as possible, don't have an attitude (even if you're in the right) and fight it in court, or with media, whatever other way you want to. But in the heat of the moment is typically when these overreactions happen, by both sides. Remove yourself from that situation. Can't control what the police do, only what you do.

 

[OctoMan]

A little context as to why many of us aren't exactly trusting the police, not even for a potential suicide.

Police aren't guards in prison though correct

 

[Any Questions]

A little context as to why many of us aren't exactly trusting the police, not even for a potential suicide.



This isn't new. Not in the slightest. And going even further back, there's a history of officers having their way with black people in jails and prisons.

Terrible. Completely unacceptable. The law and prison system resembles one found in a dictators state. SERIOUSLY

 

[ryutaro's mama]

I am not victim blaming in the slightest. I'm saying sometimes you compromise to do what will give you the best outcome in the moment. She shouldn't HAVE to respond that way, but it's just the fact of the situation. Would you rather react in a heated way and possibly stir up issues with it because the law enforcement doesn't respond appropriately either? I'm saying choosing the road of less strife or conflict is the better option, then pursue a course of action legally. Given the recent issues surrounding police brutality and abuse of power, it's not worth it to chance it, so just comply and address it with the courts. I have complied with officers every time I've been stopped, and always was able to get it worked out, even if I still got the shaft in the end.

They're not mugging or stealing from you so WHY must you react? To prove a point and possibly get shot? Deal with it in the safest most appropriate manner possible considering how volatile the police seem to be currently.

Yep. Just calmly comply and everything will be A-OK.

http://youtu.be/-XFYTtgZAlE

 

[KidGalactus]

I am not victim blaming in the slightest.

You do realize that you're basically saying "if she just did what she was supposed to, none of this would have happened", right?

That is literally blaming the victim for the outcome.

 

[Methos#1975]

This is basically victim blaming, don't worry about the police being a bunch of unlawful thugs just go along with it in case they decide to fuck you over for using your basic rights.

I just read the transcript of the incident and felt like throwing up, fuck this cop http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sandra-bland-arrest-transcript_55b03a88e4b0a9b94853b1f1

I don't really think its victim blaming because sadly we know how the police are in this nation and until this issue is fixed you are sadly in many cases at their whim if you do anything counter to their orders. You can espouse one being on their p's and q's when speaking to the police while still advocating for changes that make that unneeded, but we aren't there yet and pointing out how one should act when dealing with such a rouge element within today's reality, is not by necessity victim blaming.

 

[Methos#1975]

Police aren't guards in prison though correct

Depends, in many areas they are attached to the sheriff dept.

 

[SlickShoes]

I completely understand the point. It's why I was saying, while its not justified and how the situation should be, you should do everything in your power in the moment, to comply. It's unfortunately how things appear to be in their current state because of police reactions. I'm not justifying police reactions, and by all means you can feel different in how you think people should respond, but I feel that because of today's circumstances, if in a traffic stop, comply as much as possible, don't have an attitude (even if you're in the right) and fight it in court, or with media, whatever other way you want to. But in the heat of the moment is typically when these overreactions happen, by both sides. Remove yourself from that situation. Can't control what the police do, only what you do.

So what of people that are not of a sound state of mind due to stress, depression or other mental illness? Do these people deserve to be abused and/or killed because they don't have the people skills to placate a police officer on a power trip?

 

[Future]

I don't really think its victim blaming because sadly we know how the police are in this nation and until this issue is fixed you are sadly in many cases at their whim if you do anything counter to their orders. You can espouse one being on their p's and q's when speaking to the police while still advocating for changes that make that unneeded, but we aren't there yet and pointing out how one should act when dealing with such a rouge element within today's reality, is not by necessity victim blaming.

Exactly

I mean women aren't forced into wearing those short skirts. Sadly we know how men are in this world and until the issue is fixed you are sadly in many cases at their whim if you do anything that says no. We aren't there yet and pointing out how one should dress when dealing with men in today's reality, it's not by necessity victim blaming

Spoiler

its victim blaming

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Exactly

I mean women aren't forced into wearing those short skirts. Sadly we know how men are in this world and until the issue is fixed you are sadly in many cases at their whim if you do anything that says no. We aren't there yet and pointing out how one should dress when dealing with men in today's reality, it's not by necessity victim blaming

Spoiler

its victim blaming

You reading over my shoulder while I was typing? I was moments from posting this almost verbatim.

 

[AlphaDump]

Exactly

I mean women aren't forced into wearing those short skirts. Sadly we know how men are in this world and until the issue is fixed you are sadly in many cases at their whim if you do anything that says no. We aren't there yet and pointing out how one should dress when dealing with men in today's reality, it's not by necessity victim blaming

Spoiler

its victim blaming

Lets not confuse this anymore than we need to. It is important to not act up so that the footage speaks for itself in case the officer reacts aggressively regardless of how compliant she is. Dont give anyone an avenue to confirm their bias. Then you can justifiably blast their ass in court when the footage aligns with your story.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Lets not confuse this anymore than we need to. It is important to not act up so that the footage speaks for itself in case the officer reacts aggressively regardless of how compliant she is. Dont give anyone an avenue to confirm their bias. Then you can justifiably blast their ass in court when the footage aligns with your story.

*If you are still alive.

 

[FiggyCal]

Anonymous is full of shit. Why would they wait to release the video if they actually had it?

 

[birthday-suit]

Anon twitter account is disgusting. Nothing but a attention whore. Disgusting. Digusting. Digusting.

Every time something happens they attach themselves to it and say they have something.

And it's offensive to the victims.

 

[AlphaDump]

*If you are still alive.

What a lazy comment. Pretty sure this investigation is still going on after her death, and could help bring awareness to those who are alive. And you know, they still might be killed, but if the footage is there, and it is proven that vicitims are consistently compliant, it could help prevent more deaths and maybe even hold cops accountable in the future.

It is hard to argue against objective evidence.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

What a lazy comment. Pretty sure this investigation is still going on after her death, and could help bring awareness to those who are alive. And you know, they still might be killed, but if the footage is there, and it is proven that vicitims are consistently compliant, it could help prevent more deaths and maybe even hold cops accountable in the future.

It is hard to argue against objective evidence.

Yeah, it's like I didn't even post a video, in this very thread, on this very page showing a guy being compliant with police orders and being shot for his trouble...oh wait.

Compliance guarantees nothing. It is NOT Bland's fault she was thrown to the ground for being verbally defiant. A well trained cop would have attempted to diffuse the situation without incident.

And LOL @ "objective evidence".

 

[Chococat]

Read the police report and transcript of the encounter. Questions:

1) On several pages, it clearly says she is on meds, but on others it list she is not taking meds.

2) If someone attempted suicide withing the last year, should they not be a suicide watch just in case. Not only for the prisoner's sake, but the police protection?

3) She was toss in highest minimum security prison for a traffic stop. The report claims it for assault on the officer. No where in the recording of the actual arrest the officer mention she is attacking him. He only claims in the report afterwards she kicked him and got his ring caught on the cuff causing a small cut. Yet he denies medical attention. If she truly assaulted him, no matter how minor the injury, should had he not have medical personal document the incident?

4) Perhaps I am confused, but I don't count resisting arrest and assault to be one in the same. To me, the encounter sounded like she was resisting cause he refused to tell her why she was being arrested. She was not compiling at points, by trying to stay away from the officer (a.k.a not getting out of the car willingly, he physical tried to pull her out, then threatened her with the stun gun). Not being cooperative does not equal assault. Yet he reports she attacked him. At no point does he command her to stop kicking/attacking. So when did the assault happen? He says it happened before the stun gun was put away. If she attacked him, why didn't he stun her? If she truly attacked him, he would have been in his right to defend himself with the stun gun. Basically the verb able recording of the stop doesn't match his reporting of the stop.

5) When did the officers offer her medical attention? Even if she wasn't slammed into the ground, she plainly states she is epileptic. Again, for their own protection, should she not be checked out by medical professionals. If she was taken down hard and complains that she can't hear and is having a hard time getting up, again why wasn't she treated and cleared? Why is the second officer so flippant about Sandra's health? Why was no medical check up by professional noted in the arrest record?

6) Assuming her head was hit the arrest, she could not hear directly after, had trouble standing up, and was given no medical attention for what even a laymen would consider a concussion, that she died from complications of concussion?

 

[AlphaDump]

Yeah, it's like I didn't even post a video, in this very thread, on this very page showing a guy being compliant with police orders and being shot for his trouble...oh wait.

Compliance guarantees nothing. It is NOT Bland's fault she was thrown to the ground for being verbally defiant. A well trained cop would have attempted to diffuse the situation without incident.

And LOL @ "objective evidence".

You posted a video, as in creating awareness.

You missed my point totally and completely.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

6) Assuming her head was hit the arrest, she could not hear directly after, had trouble standing up, and was given no medical attention for what even a laymen would consider a concussion, that she died from complications of concussion?

This is what I've been thinking since that first phone video came out. She may have died alone untreated for the abuse she suffered, and they've been working a cover up on everything.

 

[Train of Midnight]

Anonymous is full of shit. Why would they wait to release the video if they actually had it?

I, too think they're BSing. But if they have evidence, they're either giving the police a chance to come clean on their own, or allowing them to double down on the lies before being served. Either way we'll see how it goes.

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

Of course Anon is full of shit. They're claiming she's already dead in her booking photo because one eye is lower than the other.

 

[danwarb]

She did nothing wrong in the video. The cop should be done for the false arrest and assault, to start with..

 

[Stinkles]

I completely understand the point. It's why I was saying, while its not justified and how the situation should be, you should do everything in your power in the moment, to comply. It's unfortunately how things appear to be in their current state because of police reactions. I'm not justifying police reactions, and by all means you can feel different in how you think people should respond, but I feel that because of today's circumstances, if in a traffic stop, comply as much as possible, don't have an attitude (even if you're in the right) and fight it in court, or with media, whatever other way you want to. But in the heat of the moment is typically when these overreactions happen, by both sides. Remove yourself from that situation. Can't control what the police do, only what you do.

But I have literally watched videos where cops become suspicious of black people FOR being friendly and compliant. They've created a BIZARRE feedback loop that can only be fixed by absolutely scorched Earthing the blue wall of silence, resetting police training, and making the job undesirable to stupid bullies.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Transcript is horrifying, but the terrible policing does not automatically indict them for murder.

That blank window will always leave doubt though.

 

[speculawyer]

I know nothing about the jail suicide stuff . . . but I caught the Dashcam video stuff.

What the fuck? I had quite the "Dear White People, stop embarrassing me" moment. That cop on a small man complex power-trip.

How the fuck do you go from pulling over someone for not signalling a lane change (who gives a fuck!) to throwing them in jail. That officer should be prosecuted for assault & battery, not the woman. Yeah, she was a bit cranky . . . so what? That's not illegal. But him saying that he will "Light you up" (with the Taser) and threatening to drag her out of the car. Crazy.

Prosecute the policeman for assault.


They act this way in front of their Dash cams?!?! I wonder how they operate when the cameras are NOT running!

 

[ryutaro's mama]

You posted a video, as in creating awareness.

You missed my point totally and completely.

I understood totally and completely.

You said if Bland had complied and still died, that could potentially help others. I sais, it is not her job to "take one for the team" to spread awareness. It is NOT HER FAULT the officer escalated a simple traffic stop to a forceful arrest. She doesn't have to be nice to a police officer. Aren't police supposed to be trained in dealing with upset civilians without blowing a gasket? Aren't they suppose to be models of restraint?

You are essentially saying, had she just been a good egg (even if it still resulted in her death) it could bring the police to justice.

How else do I infer what you said?

 

[Zoe]

3) She was toss in highest minimum security prison for a traffic stop. The report claims it for assault on the officer. No where in the recording of the actual arrest the officer mention she is attacking him. He only claims in the report afterwards she kicked him and got his ring caught on the cuff causing a small cut. Yet he denies medical attention. If she truly assaulted him, no matter how minor the injury, should had he not have medical personal document the incident?

Physical contact is not a requirement of an assault charge. That's why it's usually coupled with battery.

 

[Chococat]

Physical contact is not a requirement of an assault charge. That's why it's usually coupled with battery.

Not being snarky, so what is the definition of assault?

 

[Zoe]

Not being snarky, so what is the definition of assault?

More or less the threat to cause harm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault#United_States

 

[Dunedain_Ranger]

So anon claiming she is dead in the photo makes me wonder if they even have a video ?

 

[Machine]

Interesting that the jail admits to breaking some rules. I wonder if they are going to try to scapegoat some corrections officers and whitewash the deputy's misconduct. Makes sense from a liability standpoint for a variety of reasons.

 

[heliosRAzi]

Interesting that the jail admits to breaking some rules. I wonder if they are going to try to scapegoat some corrections officers and whitewash the deputy's misconduct. Makes sense from a liability standpoint for a variety of reasons.

From that article

The sheriff’s office said Friday in a statement that jailers checked on the 28-year-old Bland via intercom on one occasion rather than in person.

As someone who has worked in a Texas jail before, this is a big no-no. Even when you have audio AND visual, you are still supposed to check on them in person.

 

[Chococat]

More or less the threat to cause harm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault#United_States

Read that. The officer listed the charge as "Assault Public Servant". No battery listed. (Not directed at you specifically), where in the recording does Sandra threat to cause harm?

I agree she is being verbally combative, but not to the point for needing to be thrown into medium security holding. If he just simple wrote her a warning ticket and let her go, he would still have his job and she would not be dead.

 

[AlphaDump]

I understood totally and completely.

You said if Bland had complied and still died, that could potentially help others. I sais, it is not her job to "take one for the team" to spread awareness. It is NOT HER FAULT the officer escalated a simple traffic stop to a forceful arrest. She doesn't have to be nice to a police officer. Aren't police supposed to be trained in dealing with upset civilians without blowing a gasket? Aren't they suppose to be models of restraint?

You are essentially saying, had she just been a good egg (even if it still resulted in her death) it could bring the police to justice.

How else do I infer what you said?

I never said it was her job.

I never said her being compliant would result in justice.

I said her being compliant, and having evidence supporting it, can help create awareness of how she was treated. It would paint a picture on the officers, espcially over time as more cases come about. People are too sensitive to someone not putting a cig out, if they are inherently racist or prejiduce it will be even more pronounced, so remove it where you can. Let them spin and expose themselves as a result.

As an example, you mentioned posting a video of a similar instance, you are creating awareness and showing how ridiculous it is because someone played it right down the middle and still received aggression.

It takes time, and continued awareness of the issues.

My bad about typos,on phone.

 

[Yrael]

That dashcam video is hard to watch. The trooper was unnecessarily aggressive and came across as a bully rather than a peacekeeper.

I can't know if Bland committed suicide or not, but I don't find the fact that she had been recently upbeat to be a good counterargument, as I know how well depressed people can hide their anguish. If she did commit suicide, however...why was she not under much closer supervision, given the fact that she had told the jailers about her suicidal past? That is sheer negligence - and the jail is admitting to negligence too, from Machine's article.

And that Anon account. Wow, how twisted do they have to be to use this as an attention-seeking moment? Bland has family members who are grieving and anxiously looking for justice. Playing with their emotions like that is just...yikes.

 

[Any Questions]

Read the police report and transcript of the encounter. Questions:

1) On several pages, it clearly says she is on meds, but on others it list she is not taking meds.

2) If someone attempted suicide withing the last year, should they not be a suicide watch just in case. Not only for the prisoner's sake, but the police protection?

3) She was toss in highest minimum security prison for a traffic stop. The report claims it for assault on the officer. No where in the recording of the actual arrest the officer mention she is attacking him. He only claims in the report afterwards she kicked him and got his ring caught on the cuff causing a small cut. Yet he denies medical attention. If she truly assaulted him, no matter how minor the injury, should had he not have medical personal document the incident?

4) Perhaps I am confused, but I don't count resisting arrest and assault to be one in the same. To me, the encounter sounded like she was resisting cause he refused to tell her why she was being arrested. She was not compiling at points, by trying to stay away from the officer (a.k.a not getting out of the car willingly, he physical tried to pull her out, then threatened her with the stun gun). Not being cooperative does not equal assault. Yet he reports she attacked him. At no point does he command her to stop kicking/attacking. So when did the assault happen? He says it happened before the stun gun was put away. If she attacked him, why didn't he stun her? If she truly attacked him, he would have been in his right to defend himself with the stun gun. Basically the verb able recording of the stop doesn't match his reporting of the stop.

5) When did the officers offer her medical attention? Even if she wasn't slammed into the ground, she plainly states she is epileptic. Again, for their own protection, should she not be checked out by medical professionals. If she was taken down hard and complains that she can't hear and is having a hard time getting up, again why wasn't she treated and cleared? Why is the second officer so flippant about Sandra's health? Why was no medical check up by professional noted in the arrest record?

6) Assuming her head was hit the arrest, she could not hear directly after, had trouble standing up, and was given no medical attention for what even a laymen would consider a concussion, that she died from complications of concussion?

A very well balanced post.

 

[Random Painted HIghway]

Read that. The officer listed the charge as "Assault Public Servant". No battery listed. (Not directed at you specifically), where in the recording does Sandra threat to cause harm?

I agree she is being verbally combative, but not to the point for needing to be thrown into medium security holding. If he just simple wrote her a warning ticket and let her go, he would still have his job and she would not be dead.

The jail doesn't have access to evidence when processing the defendant. They have the charges and the questionnaire and a few other bits of material, but they do not evaluate the underlying charges for correctness or accuracy.

 

[Zoe]

Read that. The officer listed the charge as "Assault Public Servant". No battery listed. (Not directed at you specifically), where in the recording does Sandra threat to cause harm?

A threat doesn't have to be verbal nor does any physical contact have to have any strength behind it. People have gotten charged with assault for spitting on officers before.

 

[kame-sennin]

More or less the threat to cause harm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault#United_States

No.

That's the civil law definition. Most jurisdictions require harmful contact for a criminal assault charge.

Read that. The officer listed the charge as "Assault Public Servant". No battery listed.

Battery isn't a criminal charge in most jurisdictions. The person you're quoting is mistaken.


Ediit:

Except of course, in Texas, where the laws are shit:

(a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse;
(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or
(3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.
(b) An offense under Subsection (a)(1) is a Class A misdemeanor, except that the offense is a felony of the third degree if the offense is committed against:
(1) a person the actor knows is a public servant while the public servant is lawfully discharging an official duty, or in retaliation or on account of an exercise of official power or performance of an official duty as a public servant;

 

[ryutaro's mama]

From that article



As someone who has worked in a Texas jail before, this is a big no-no. Even when you have audio AND visual, you are still supposed to check on them in person.

You are a potential great resource then. I want to know this:

Wouldn't a trash bag be considered potential contraband and surely a bag big enough to hang someone with wouldn't be protocol to leave in a cell, right?

 

[heliosRAzi]

You are a potential great resource then. I want to know this:

Wouldn't a trash bag be considered potential contraband and surely a bag big enough to hang someone with wouldn't be protocol to leave in a cell, right?

I could be or I could not. Different jails have different rules, regulations, and policies.

Typically, inmates aren't supposed to have trashbags in their cell. It's why cell shakedowns are supposed to be conducted, to get rid of all of the contraband and extra items. But since these officers were checking on inmates via the intercom, I doubt that they were doing any shakedowns often.

 

[Chococat]

The jail doesn't have access to evidence when processing the defendant. They have the charges and the questionnaire and a few other bits of material, but they do not evaluate the underlying charges for correctness or accuracy.

I understand the jail is not in a position question why she was arrested and the charges. I'm asking why as a lay person if I notice a medical dependency in her paper work, why didn't the jail clarify with her for her own personal safety and theirs? Once the Police hand her off to them, they are responsible for her well being.

As someone above posted, it seems that this jail lacks proper training.

 

[FiggyCal]

I, too think they're BSing. But if they have evidence, they're either giving the police a chance to come clean on their own, or allowing them to double down on the lies before being served. Either way we'll see how it goes.

If I had the footage; I'd post a screenshot to show that I meant business. My guess is that they don't have shit and they hoped they were going to push the cops into admitting something incriminating to stop rumors going around.

They were going for this:
"How did you know we murdered Sanda Bland"
"We didn't," anon said, tipping their fedoras, " you just told us."

 

[Chococat]

(1) a person the actor knows is a public servant while the public servant is lawfully discharging an official duty, or in retaliation or on account of an exercise of official power or performance of an official duty as a public servant;

Ah, so in Texas, a police officer could claim assault for practical anything with a definition that broad. Good to know.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[WedgeX]

From the video...there is no way she should have ended up arrested and in jail.

And if she endorsed suicide ideation when assessed she should have been sent to whatever emergency psychiatric center they use.

Awful.

 

[mgs2master2]

So basically, i know this was covered in the thread where people believe the footage wasnt edited...


however,

here is a person who edits footage for a living saying its clearly edited and not a malfunction

other news sites such as NY Times and LA Times picked it up too.


this whole stiuation is kinda crazy. One thing i personally feel though, this isnt a suicide. It was most def a murder