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woopWOOP
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Perfect Dark is miles better than Goldeneye. There's not even a contest.
Mariokart 64 has better multiplayer than Diddy Kong Racing. DKR's driving is also pretty shit in general.
Paper Mario is more charming and overall better than it's sequel Thousand Year Door.
DKC2 & DKC3 have more going on, but I still vastly prefer DKC1 and it's basic island environments over weird themeparks and Donkey Kong Canada.
Even tho the story is balls I prefer FFTA and it's sequel over the original because it has way more jobs and different playable races. The judge system forces you to train up multiple units/classes and isn't all that bad for it.
Ruby/Sapphire and Diamond/Pearl are still a drag to play through because of that vast ocean/annoying mountain.
On that note, Gen2 = Gen5 >> Gen1 > Gen6 > Gen3 >>>> Gen4. God, Gen4 sucks.
Alright, that's about all the opinions I know will get me lynched around here.
Mariokart 64 has better multiplayer than Diddy Kong Racing. DKR's driving is also pretty shit in general.
Paper Mario is more charming and overall better than it's sequel Thousand Year Door.
DKC2 & DKC3 have more going on, but I still vastly prefer DKC1 and it's basic island environments over weird themeparks and Donkey Kong Canada.
Even tho the story is balls I prefer FFTA and it's sequel over the original because it has way more jobs and different playable races. The judge system forces you to train up multiple units/classes and isn't all that bad for it.
Ruby/Sapphire and Diamond/Pearl are still a drag to play through because of that vast ocean/annoying mountain.
On that note, Gen2 = Gen5 >> Gen1 > Gen6 > Gen3 >>>> Gen4. God, Gen4 sucks.
Alright, that's about all the opinions I know will get me lynched around here.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Skill? Being good at the Souls games is not about skill, it's all about trial & error and patience.
And I love Demon's Souls and Dark Souls.
CyanideFuse
Member
I like it how people use this game as a badge of honour and if you 'don't get it' then you must be bad at the game and/or games.
1) It is entirely possible to not like the game because you just don't like it
2) Even if you are 'bad' at the game it does not matter. Being good at it does not make that person a higher brow of games player.
The 8-Bit Raider
Member
Have you tried Bloodborne yet? It's just as good.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Japanese Devs are better at making fighting games than Western Devs are.
This gen so far, I've more excited for HD re-releases than new ips. (With a few exceptions.)
This gen so far, I've more excited for HD re-releases than new ips. (With a few exceptions.)
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
How is that controversial AT ALL?
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
*shrugs*
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Bethesda make great worlds, but their games can be technically awful and they get too many free passes for it. I tend to find the gameplay also loses its lustre very quickly and I want to progress as quickly as possible to end it after the 7th or 8th hour.
I'm still going to get Fallout 4 day 1, though.
I'm still going to get Fallout 4 day 1, though.
I agree. Fallout make some of the best worlds I've ever seen. But their design technically can be very frustrating as a player.
OT - Here is another opinion; Japanese developers are FAR superior at balancing harder gameplay difficulties than western devs who pussy out and make the entire game laughably easy.
Ehhh been playing skyrim with mods and it's been pretty enjoyable, don't get what all the hate is about
FNV>>>>F3 by a longshot
Splatoon is not the second coming of Christ and is vastly overrated. It's just an arena based shooter with no voice chat
jRPG are so off putting
This next gen was for the companies to make a profit and not for the consumers. Gimped hardware that 2 years into the lifespan, games are played at 20fps and are still struggling
FNV>>>>F3 by a longshot
Splatoon is not the second coming of Christ and is vastly overrated. It's just an arena based shooter with no voice chat
jRPG are so off putting
This next gen was for the companies to make a profit and not for the consumers. Gimped hardware that 2 years into the lifespan, games are played at 20fps and are still struggling
MulderYuffie
Member
1. Ocarina of Time is one of the weakest games in the Zelda series.
2. Donkey Kong Country 3 is the best DK game and one of the best platformers hands down.
3. Really don't care for the FPS/3D Metroid titles.
4. Don't care for Earthbound at all but Mother 3 is fantastic.
5. 2D Sonic >>>>> 2D Mario
6. 3 is the best "classic" Resident Evil game and Zero is fantastic too!
7. Paper Mario series isn't that good especially when you set it side by side with SMRPG and Mario & Luigi
8. PSP >>>>DS
9. Portrait of Ruin is the best DS Castlevania game.
10. Final Fantasy X is a game I could do without but X-2 is one of my fav games of all time.
2. Donkey Kong Country 3 is the best DK game and one of the best platformers hands down.
3. Really don't care for the FPS/3D Metroid titles.
4. Don't care for Earthbound at all but Mother 3 is fantastic.
5. 2D Sonic >>>>> 2D Mario
6. 3 is the best "classic" Resident Evil game and Zero is fantastic too!
7. Paper Mario series isn't that good especially when you set it side by side with SMRPG and Mario & Luigi
8. PSP >>>>DS
9. Portrait of Ruin is the best DS Castlevania game.
10. Final Fantasy X is a game I could do without but X-2 is one of my fav games of all time.
paragonpro
Banned
I enjoyed resident evil 4 and 5 more than re make, and I think tomb raider 2013 is better than uncharted 1 and 3.
I don't know how controversial is but I actually think that Tales of Vesperia is nothing but absolute trash, Yuri is one of the most boring and indecisive protagonist that series ever had (even worse than Luke), the Battle system is completly Eugh and even those "nice graphics" look incredible bland.
Just dissapointing all around and the only Tales of game I never completed (It was also my first Tales of game) but thank god Tales of Graces F and Abyss 3DS happened.
Just dissapointing all around and the only Tales of game I never completed (It was also my first Tales of game) but thank god Tales of Graces F and Abyss 3DS happened.
I can't see the lies.
VyechnayaSlava
Member
Sonic games were NEVER good. Yeah. I said it.
That's not controversial at all, that's pretty much true.
Stevey
Member
git gud scrub :V
There was only Doom 3 that was anywhere near HL2 at the time, what others are you thinking of?
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
blue_phazon
Member
I don't know how controversial is but I actually think that Tales of Vesperia is nothing but absolute trash, Yuri is one of the most boring and indecisive protagonist that series ever had (even worse than Luke), the Battle system is completly Eugh and even those "nice graphics" look incredible bland.
Just dissapointing all around and the only Tales of game I never completed (It was also my first Tales of game) but thank god Tales of Graces F and Abyss 3DS happened.
I can't see the lies.
Wtf. Abyss is way worse than Vesperia.
Dangansona
Member
Some of these opinions hurt me. Then there are the opinions like this that just false.
RichiRamjag
Member
I think quantum break looks terrible and is massively overhyped. I've tried to like it, I've watched everything out there, the graphics look slightly better than last gen and the gameplay seems like a mediocre third-person shooter. Time powers are also unimpressive imo.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
That's actually becoming less controversial as time passes. I think now people are over the fact you play as Raiden, they've accepted the gameplay to be top notch and the narrative to be the pinnacle of the series.
I still prefer 3 though.
John Bender
Banned
Quoted for truth!
I love MGS2 since day 1 and the Raiden "suprise" was acutally great. Raiden was a cool guy in MGS2. Liked him a lot.
BUT..... damn, MGS3 was that damn good..... MGS2 got beaten by it, imho.
That's good to hear. For a long time 3 was my favorite, but going back to replay the series in anticipation of V has given me a new appreciation of 2.
hipsterpants
Member
- Persona 4's main story and side events (camping trip, etc.) are pretty bad and completely wastes a fucking awesome villain.
- The Witcher 3 has numerous problems including: Stupid easy combat, a terrible inventory system, way too similar enemies, way too much worthless loot, a bad merchant system that requires you to visit like 4 people to sell all of your worthless loot, WEAPON DEGRADATION, Roach being awful, repetitive side-quests, over-reliance on tracking via Witcher sense, and a bad case of NPC same-face that ruins immersion.
- SE had the secret best E3 conference. Sony's "megaton trio" included a remake that will cause a shitstorm on GAF/the internet when the changes from the original are revealed, a game that's going to be better on the PC (and that most people won't care about unless we get a HD rerelease of the first two games), and a game will probably be a mostly linear sub-10 hour adventure that can't possibly live up to the hype.
- The Witcher 3 has numerous problems including: Stupid easy combat, a terrible inventory system, way too similar enemies, way too much worthless loot, a bad merchant system that requires you to visit like 4 people to sell all of your worthless loot, WEAPON DEGRADATION, Roach being awful, repetitive side-quests, over-reliance on tracking via Witcher sense, and a bad case of NPC same-face that ruins immersion.
- SE had the secret best E3 conference. Sony's "megaton trio" included a remake that will cause a shitstorm on GAF/the internet when the changes from the original are revealed, a game that's going to be better on the PC (and that most people won't care about unless we get a HD rerelease of the first two games), and a game will probably be a mostly linear sub-10 hour adventure that can't possibly live up to the hype.
The only Smash I'd enjoy for competitive play is Melee or for hacks, Project M. At this point though, Melee has been picked to death in tier lists and there's only a few characters used for competitive play, probably because they can use those advanced mechanics better than other characters. Project M is probably the best active Smash hack available, and it combines the best properties all Smash games so that it works for people on any skill level while still retaining advanced mechanics and a much more balanced character set. I wish Project M would replace Smash 4, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.I think Smash, on the whole, aren't very good games. Sometimes they can be fun if you have some crazy multiplayer party brawler moments, but I will never understand why anyone wanted to shoehorn it into something competitive or where the entertainment comes from in that scene -- but people seem to like it. I'm still a bit salty that it took up 3 hours of EVO's championship Sunday and pushed KI top 8 to Saturday night, but not much I can do about that.
Well then...*cracks fingers*
Ocarina of Time is the weakest 3D Zelda in the series, along with the most unmemorable dungeons.
Puzzle-Zelda, as some call it, is the right direction.
2D Zelda dungeons don't hold a candle to 3D Zelda Dungeons.
Paper Mario TTYD is either a parody of other JRPGS or just has one of the worst endings in Mario games. It's only saving grace is the gameplay system, rest is mediocre.
Super Mario RPG is the most un-Mario RPG between all Mario RPGs. Completely bland.
Pokémon Gen 4 is heavily underrated even without Platinum. It literally destroys all Gens in main- and post-content, except for Gen 2, with also the best Poké designs.
Ocarina of Time is the weakest 3D Zelda in the series, along with the most unmemorable dungeons.
Puzzle-Zelda, as some call it, is the right direction.
2D Zelda dungeons don't hold a candle to 3D Zelda Dungeons.
Paper Mario TTYD is either a parody of other JRPGS or just has one of the worst endings in Mario games. It's only saving grace is the gameplay system, rest is mediocre.
Super Mario RPG is the most un-Mario RPG between all Mario RPGs. Completely bland.
Pokémon Gen 4 is heavily underrated even without Platinum. It literally destroys all Gens in main- and post-content, except for Gen 2, with also the best Poké designs.
Here's a bit of a fanboy-ish one, but I guess that makes it controversial.
(Not including Nintendo). Valve + Blizzard have given us more legendary games & iconic franchises than any two (maybe three) combined Microsoft/Sega/Sony owned first party developers.
(Not including Nintendo). Valve + Blizzard have given us more legendary games & iconic franchises than any two (maybe three) combined Microsoft/Sega/Sony owned first party developers.
Although a Polyphony/Bungie/Naughty Dog combo comes close.
MrCaliaztec
Member
Evolve is a great game that got crushed by half right assumptions, and entitlement.
Can you expand on the entitlement comment, please? I'm interested to know what you mean.
MrCaliaztec
Member
People complaining about the base game,and season passes. And feeling like all cosmetic skins should've been free or unlockable through in game progress.
Masses of people were put off simply because they felt it was a rip to pay for the cosmetic DLC that was purely cosmetic.
And people literally speculated that the season passes were cut from the main game to make money even though it's never been shown or proven, half right assumptions.
The base game did seem very bare to justify a £35 (Steam) price tag, in my opinion. Not surprised to see that it's dead.
MrCaliaztec
Member
Great game, great concept, people who never played it would speak on the game and content as if they spent hours in the game even before it released. It was easily sent to die due to entitlement and wishy washy gamer attitudes.
I spent $78 dollars on GmG for the PC Monster Race Edition and received all content released for that game that is not cosmetic, and even get the upcoming Season Pass 2 included with it, when originally it was only gonna be 2 of the 4 hunters.
Following on this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1084907
These images are indeed ridiculously stupid.
Imho, video games are better than ever right now.
- More diverse and varied than ever (in terms of genres, gameplay systems, controls options)
- More accessible than ever
- Better-looking than ever
- More content-rich than ever
- Better value than ever (Steam, regular digital discounts/sales, humble bundles, PS+, Games with Gold etc being fantastic value)
- More immersive than ever (and soon going to be on a whole different level thanks to VR)
These images are indeed ridiculously stupid.
Imho, video games are better than ever right now.
- More diverse and varied than ever (in terms of genres, gameplay systems, controls options)
- More accessible than ever
- Better-looking than ever
- More content-rich than ever
- Better value than ever (Steam, regular digital discounts/sales, humble bundles, PS+, Games with Gold etc being fantastic value)
- More immersive than ever (and soon going to be on a whole different level thanks to VR)
1) Only if you include indies. The retail scene is nowhere near as varied as it was during the PS1/PS2 era.
2) More accessible? Sure. Dumber? Sure.
3) Better looking than ever? Sure.
4) More content rich than ever? Not really. What modern FPS has more about it than Half Life? What modern RPG has more about it than Baldur's Gate 2? What modern competitive game has more about it than Starcraft?
5) Only thanks to sales.
6) (More immersive than ever). Disagree. I don't think immersion has improved noticeably since Half Life 2.
Bl@de
Member
Half-Life 1/2 are just normal good shooters with a boring main character. Totally overrated. Nothing amazing (I played them at release and replayed them last year ... But nope, nothing special about them) . Also they were already totally outclassed by F.E.A.R. 1/2 when it comes to mechanics. People should rather hope for a proper F.E.A.R. 4 instead of chasing the HL3 unicorn. Valve should focus on the steam plattform and vulkan/vr instead of making HL3.
In rebuke & agreement, FEAR has a terrible story and horrid voice acting, but that gameplay... Wow. It's still bloody fun 10 years later.
Bl@de
Member
The story of HL was also nothing mindblowing... A shooter should have good mechanics first IMO. Shooting has to be fun. Story and FPS games ... The only decent one I can remember is Bioshock. And Half-Life had nothing that stood out for me. It was good in every department but thats it. Nothing special. Just standard stuff except for the gravity gun fun.
Most Japanese games and their developers are almost entirely irrelevant now. They failed to adapt to the standards of HD game development and decided to hang on to rudimentary, tired, mechanics and narrative tropes, while pandering to a socially awkward fan base that never grew up.
Microsoft's initial decision to include Draconian DRM in the Xbox One not only cost them millions of potential customers, unit sales and quite possibly the entire eighth console generation, but it allowed Sony to gain massive market and mind share by doing virtually nothing. We are now left with a company just doing enough to keep their edge and another desperately struggling to keep up.
This one is blunt: You're not a true gamer if you don't like Nintendo or find their games fun. They are certainly not perfect. However, you fail to understand what gaming is or what video games are about if you don't at least respect them. They are one of the few Japanese companies that still gets it
Microsoft's initial decision to include Draconian DRM in the Xbox One not only cost them millions of potential customers, unit sales and quite possibly the entire eighth console generation, but it allowed Sony to gain massive market and mind share by doing virtually nothing. We are now left with a company just doing enough to keep their edge and another desperately struggling to keep up.
This one is blunt: You're not a true gamer if you don't like Nintendo or find their games fun. They are certainly not perfect. However, you fail to understand what gaming is or what video games are about if you don't at least respect them. They are one of the few Japanese companies that still gets it
We'll have to agree to disagree regarding Half Life's story. I think Valve are pretty amazing when it comes to world building, although I will say that nothing they've done comes close to Portal 2 in that regard.
System Shock 2 has better gameplay and story than original Bioshock, but it's not really an FPS. Same with Deus Ex. Bioshock is still a very good game, and one of last-gens best in my opinion.
No-one saw the plottwist coming, and if they say they did, they're full of shit.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I think smartphone games where everything takes a lot of time and the game offers you the option to pay money to speed things up, are actually pretty cool.
They're a different gaming experience, one where you regularly spend a few minutes at a time over months and years, instead of spending a few hours at a time for a week or so.
I like that.
Clash Of Clans is an example I really enjoy. Your progress in the game doesn't matter in PVP because you are matched up with people how are as far in the game as you, so money really just speeds things up but doesn't buy you an advantage in PVP.
The PVP itself is purely skill based.
They're a different gaming experience, one where you regularly spend a few minutes at a time over months and years, instead of spending a few hours at a time for a week or so.
I like that.
Clash Of Clans is an example I really enjoy. Your progress in the game doesn't matter in PVP because you are matched up with people how are as far in the game as you, so money really just speeds things up but doesn't buy you an advantage in PVP.
The PVP itself is purely skill based.