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Report: Jihadi John on the run, fears Daesh (ISIS) might be plotting to kill him
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DiipuSurotu
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BlazingDarkness
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The difference being, one is the murder of innocent civilians, the other is executing a murderer, as far as I'm concerned. Entirely different.
I read that they would continue to release execution videos, but that they would have to be those "officially produced" propaganda videos, instead of the "homevideos"/combat videos taken by individual terrorists showing executions etc.
Josh with a J
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It's not the Jedi way brah
Interceptor
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This Daesh nonsense is still a thing?
Miles Quaritch
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Because that's not justice? Better to bring him home and force him to face the families of the people he killed and let him rot in a jail cell somewhere for the rest of his life.
So he's basically outlived his usefulness?
and what of the difference in the prosecution of criminals?
delicacy is needed not impetuosity
Miles Quaritch
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I agree with this. If this is true and it's easy to get him out with no risk to our forces, then we should try and get him back here. If there's a risk, he should try to get somewhere reasonably safe where we can take him into custody.
PeskyToaster
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f that, my name is Jared. Do you want to ruin my life?!?!?!?!
First the Subway guy, now this. Don't tell me the jewelry store uses blood diamonds...
DrForester
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It's like that KKK rally last week where they decided "You know, maybe we shouldn't wear the robes..."
Yeah, I'm not holding my breath. I'll be making popcorn though.
That depends, he could still shoot ISIS enemies. That is useful.
TimorousPanda
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They've got a great PR department.
Cpt.Underpants
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It's not just ISIS sympathisers. You've got other extremists without any affiliation with ISIS that may see him as some aspiring figure
I've seen enough of him sawing people's heads off and making him an example to dissuade people from joining a notorious organisation is pretty weird. He went from fervently pledging allegiance to ISIS; to convince people against join ISIS. It's a complete turnaround and pretty hilarious to see
"hey guise I used to saw people heads off with a tiny knife. I now realise it was wrong lol. Please don't support ISIS guise"
iceatcs
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Oh no, he won't go to the court. He will get ESA, PIP benefit and full housing benefit rent straight away because easy to be fake depression. No benefit cap because of PIP (old DLA) so he will get £26,000 a year from govenment if he's alone.
Does this also mean they can stop destroying historical artifacts too?
iceatcs
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Yep, aka daily mail comment style.
You mixed up "condone" and "condemn".
Messofanego
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"Additionally, ISIS caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi recently issued a call to ban the terrorist group from releasing any more execution videos due to fears that it is hurting the group's image. Although the group can still release propaganda videos, videos must not include scenes where executions occur."
HAHA did Daesh have a Mitchell and Web moment?
Are we the baddies?
HAHA did Daesh have a Mitchell and Web moment?
Are we the baddies?
DiipuSurotu
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Cpt.Underpants
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Amusing for someone infamous managed to just walk out from ISIS
Express must be a really shit source
Express must be a really shit source
"Abu, are....are we the baddies?"
I'd take that sort of progress. I'm not looking forward to boots on the ground confrontation.
Ether_Snake
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My guess is that since his identity has been revealed, ISIS got enough info on him to realize he wasn't really a devout Muslim as his buddy said, so they probably now want to kill him for that. Guy probably lied to them on more than one occasions, and they seem to apply their laws pretty strictly, at least if it becomes widespread knowledge enough. Since it's a bunch of fanatics, it probably doesn't take long to end up seen as a heretic by others who are even more fanatic. Everyone is probably trying to appear holier-than-thou over there.
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
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Whilst it would be nice from a propaganda viewpoint if we could catch him and fetch him back for a trial I think I would rather he didn't come back to the UK.
He would probably just become a poster boy for the Muslim extremists we already have more than enough of over here, while he sat comfortably in jail being courted by a gang of human rights lawyers and activists.
He would probably just become a poster boy for the Muslim extremists we already have more than enough of over here, while he sat comfortably in jail being courted by a gang of human rights lawyers and activists.
Context shouldn't matter unless you're in favour of the death penalty. And even then, (assuming he was at least a little bit higher ranked) he's much more valuable alive to the west alive than decapitated.
I'm sorry, yes I meant condemn.
Robot Pants
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Cya~~
Yes, wanting an evil terrorist murderer to be killed is just as bad as being an evil terrorist murderer.
Obligatory 'Are we the Baddies?'
Nerdkiller
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>-Baron-Spamedi-<
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Of course context matters.
We have no idea whether he is of any strategic value at all. There is a small propaganda victory that could be had by his capture and trial but that could easily backfire.
What if they brought him back but could not provide concrete evidence (of the standard require to gain a murder conviction) that he had actually held the knife, for example?
What if the human rights lawyers that will flock to this case somehow get him off on a technicality?
You could conceivably end up with a situation where he has to be given a new identity or even police protection.
The nature of his crimes and the link to widespread religious extremism make this a high stakes game.
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
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Ideally, that sounds great.
But that's only because your assuming he would definitely be convicted.
It seems unlikely given extreme nature of his ideology and the barbaric nature of his acts that he would lack sufficient empathy or remorse for facing the families of his victims to really impact on him. It may or may not give the family members some sense of relief to see him tried and convicted.
Generally I'm not keen on the death penalty.
If it was one of my family members he had hacked the head off for a propaganda video I think I would want him dead rather than in jail.
Not butchered necessarily, but definitely dead.
Eighty Deuce
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If they catch him it will be the first ISIS video I'll ever look forward to. Fuck him
Maaaaaardy
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Stop it, i'm crying.
No really, I am crying tears here.
Anyway, if he comes back to England lets bring hanging back. Nothing of value would be lost, Sky Box Office would break records.
Same here. Blows my mind.
By rot in jail you mean allow him to convert others while claiming 3 meals and a bed the rest of his life?
Fox Mulder
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Who cares, he's a murderer. I'd rather they just kill each other than innocent civilians.
Corleth the Fey
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Sorry guys - if the source is the Express you can almost certainly file this story under lying tabloid drivel.
Not that I think Old Johno doesn't deserve all the shit that's coming to him in this life and the next - but the Express is more than happy to cook up a story like this to send it's middle englander Muslim hating readers into orgasmic delight.
Not that I think Old Johno doesn't deserve all the shit that's coming to him in this life and the next - but the Express is more than happy to cook up a story like this to send it's middle englander Muslim hating readers into orgasmic delight.
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