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Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER

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Moaradin

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Please god no , if they are just giving us 16 characters. They better put some effort into it. I really hate how Cammy's new abilities is just a "powered up" state and her v-skill is just spin knuckle.

I wouldn't mind if they gave us Omega mode Juri. The different variations with her charge kicks are pretty interesting.
 

Dremark

Banned
More reason that both of them don't need to be in.
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Except they don't actually play anything like each other. I wonder if the people dead set against her inclusion even realize this, I know I've seen at least one person shocked that she wasn't a "shoto".
 

Forkball

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He is, he's just remembering it wrong

I could have sworn I saw a pic of Necalli right next to Ken. The whole 6/6/4 thing is something I saw on GAF and thought it sounded logical. It might have been posted in this very thread. DID I IMAGINE THIS?

Siliconera is just making stuff up then if we are going to have eight SFIV/SFII characters. I don't see how you have the four characters they mentioned if the color thing is true. The only character they mentioned that I want back is R. Mika anyways.
 

AESplusF

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I could have sworn I saw a pic of Necalli right next to Ken. The whole 6/6/4 thing is something I saw on GAF and thought it sounded logical. It might have been posted in this very thread. DID I IMAGINE THIS?

Siliconera is just making stuff up then if we are going to have eight SFIV/SFII characters. I don't see how you have the four characters they mentioned if the color thing is true. The only character they mentioned that I want back is R. Mika anyways.

Well a GAF member mentioned that they had heard from someone close to Capcom that R.Mika is in, I think the siliconera rumors are true, and I think everybody is reading a little to deeply into the color.
 

Renekton

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Sooo what styles are we still missing?

- Heavy grappler (Zangief)
- Range zoner (Remy, Guile, Gouken, Dhalsim)
- Ninja (Claw, Ibuki)
- Ground pressure (Dudley, Feilong)
- Buffer/edge (Juri)
- Weird-ass hit properties (Blanka, Elena)
- Stances (Gen)
 
Sooo what styles are we still missing?

- Heavy grappler (Zangief)
- Range zoner (Remy, Guile, Gouken, Dhalsim)
- Ninja (Claw, Ibuki)
- Ground pressure (Dudley, Feilong)
- Buffer/edge (Juri)
- Weird-ass hit properties (Blanka, Elena)
- Stances (Gen)

Lunging charge character(Boxer, Q)
 
Sooo what styles are we still missing?

- Heavy grappler (Zangief)
- Range zoner (Remy, Guile, Gouken, Dhalsim)
- Ninja (Claw, Ibuki,Guy)
- Ground pressure (Dudley, Feilong)
- Buffer/edge (Juri)
- Weird-ass hit properties (Blanka, Elena)
- Stances (Gen)
Fixed that for you. But Guy's run stop pressure is kind of unique style? Too bad Ken has the run V-trigger..
 

Shackzam

Member
I think the green is characters that haven't been hugely changed from their original form the ones showing the biggest changes are Ken and Bison. Then the blue is complete overhauls of existing characters so probably R.mika and Karin? Also with the way they are facing each other like good guys facing to the right and bad guys facing to the left you could have urien and juri facing Ken and ryu. Then have Alex with chun li? While the purple is just all brand new characters. I'm probably super wrong, but would like to be proven right with the way the leaks have been happening.
 

Zerojul

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Then the blue is complete overhauls of existing characters so probably R.mika and Karin? Also with the way they are facing each other like good guys facing to the right and bad guys facing to the left you could have urien and juri facing Ken and ryu.

Not to say you are wrong or anything, but changes to Birdie are mostly cosmetic while Nash's playstyle is radically different.
Anyway I have no idea what more to make out of this screen, but I sure long for a teaser/reveal.
 

enzo_gt

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I think the green is characters that haven't been hugely changed from their original form the ones showing the biggest changes are Ken and Bison. Then the blue is complete overhauls of existing characters so probably R.mika and Karin? Also with the way they are facing each other like good guys facing to the right and bad guys facing to the left you could have urien and juri facing Ken and ryu. Then have Alex with chun li? While the purple is just all brand new characters. I'm probably super wrong, but would like to be proven right with the way the leaks have been happening.
This is kind of a weird and weirdly specific criteria.

Who knows, though. I think most roster theories are off base. If Blanka ends up being the character at Brazil Game Show pretty much everyone's logic is on blast.
 

Shackzam

Member
Not to say you are wrong or anything, but changes to Birdie are mostly cosmetic while Nash's playstyle is radically different.
Anyway I have no idea what more to make out of this screen, but I sure long for a teaser/reveal.
Please tell if I'm wrong because I never played birdie in alpha, but are all of his buttons the same? Because that would be odd for that to be an occurrence with the way he looks now. Even Combofiend and other pieople at Capcom have said they have redesigned birdie since he wasn't that requested of a character. So that might meet the criteria. I'm still probably super wrong.
This is kind of a weird and weirdly specific criteria.

Who knows, though. I think most roster theories are off base. If Blanka ends up being the character at Brazil Game Show pretty much everyone's logic is on blast.
Ono will be on full troll when blanka might be revealed and everybody will be mind fucked. I just thought of this theory so I'm probably wrong. Just more food for thought.
 
Please tell if I'm wrong because I never played birdie in alpha, but are all of his buttons the same? Because that would be odd for that to be an occurrence. Even Combofiend and other people at Capcom have said they have redesigned birdie since he wasn't that requested of a character. So that might meet the criteria. I'm still probably super wrong.

In Alpha, Birdie had 360 motions and charge moves.
 

ShinMaruku

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Except they don't actually play anything like each other. I wonder if the people dead set against her inclusion even realize this, I know I've seen at least one person shocked that she wasn't a "shoto".

I don't want them in there because the school girl outfits when they are 23 is stupid. :p
 

Zerojul

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Please tell if I'm wrong because I never played birdie in alpha, but are all of his buttons the same? Because that would be odd for that to be an occurrence with the way he looks now. Even Combofiend and other pieople at Capcom have said they have redesigned birdie since he wasn't that requested of a character. So that might meet the criteria. I'm still probably super wrong.
No, you're perfectly right, it's a mixed bag of new moves that somewhat resemble old ones, old moves with new motions (360 motions and charges are gone) and brand new stuff. But based on what I've seen the differences in his core gameplay dont seem as drastic as in Nash's. That's why I think you can't both count them as complete overhauls, but that's just me. I wish I had more time to try them out in the Beta :p
 
Not to say you are wrong or anything, but changes to Birdie are mostly cosmetic while Nash's playstyle is radically different.
Anyway I have no idea what more to make out of this screen, but I sure long for a teaser/reveal.

birdie plays pretty differently now too, his motions are completely different
 
What plot role could Juri have?

Sooo what styles are we still missing?

- Heavy grappler (Zangief)
- Range zoner (Remy, Guile, Gouken, Dhalsim)
- Ninja (Claw, Ibuki)
- Ground pressure (Dudley, Feilong)
- Buffer/edge (Juri)
- Weird-ass hit properties (Blanka, Elena)
- Stances (Gen)
Like it or not, Nash is the ninja type.
 
Well a GAF member mentioned that they had heard from someone close to Capcom that R.Mika is in, I think the siliconera rumors are true, and I think everybody is reading a little to deeply into the color.
Well, again, it's important to remember that siliconera just said they were going to playable, not when. It's entirely possible they're early DLC. All I've heard indicates that R.Mika is definitely being made and is far along enough to be playable, I don't really know if that means she'd be in the 'core' roster or not as I haven't a clue how long they plan on waiting before their first DLC. I hope she's in the core though :3

What plot role could Juri have?
It's Juri. She's always seeking something to entertain herself and her skills seem to attract the attention of those who hunger for power like SIN or Bison so her finding employment in the illuminati or even just hunting them for fun wouldn't be out of line with her character or the plot, now that she's done with SIN.
 
Sooo what styles are we still missing?

- Heavy grappler (Zangief)
- Range zoner (Remy, Guile, Gouken, Dhalsim)
- Ninja (Claw, Ibuki)
- Ground pressure (Dudley, Feilong)
- Buffer/edge (Juri)
- Weird-ass hit properties (Blanka, Elena)
- Stances (Gen)
Why do people keep thinking Birdie is not a heavy grappler?
 

Ushay

Member
Sooo what styles are we still missing?

- Heavy grappler (Zangief)
- Range zoner (Remy, Guile, Gouken, Dhalsim)
- Ninja (Claw, Ibuki)
- Ground pressure (Dudley, Feilong)
- Buffer/edge (Juri)
- Weird-ass hit properties (Blanka, Elena)
- Stances (Gen)

Bolded are the ones I think will make the cut. I'm personally hoping for Gouken to make a return at some point.

The roster will easily double over the next few years so I guess most of the usual roster will make a comeback.
 

AESplusF

Member
Well, again, it's important to remember that siliconera just said they were going to playable, not when. It's entirely possible they're early DLC. All I've heard indicates that R.Mika is definitely being made and is far along enough to be playable, I don't really know if that means she'd be in the 'core' roster or not as I haven't a clue how long they plan on waiting before their first DLC. I hope she's in the core though :3

Seeing as the game comes out in Spring next year, I can't imagine they'd be working on a DLC character this early, I would bet that she's in the core roster.
Either way I'm glad to know we'll be playing her, iconic design imo.
 

pizzacat

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Since this game is about the fall of Shadaloo she could have a big role in it since her goal has been to find ways to get revenge on bison for killing her family.
Wait for real? I've been playing juri for a while and I always thought she was bisons right hand.



Hmm
 

XenoRaven

Member
Wait for real? I've been playing juri for a while and I always thought she was bisons right hand.



Hmm
She wants to kill Bison. But I didn't know it was a vengeance thing. I just figured she wanted to kill everybody, especially people who would give her a challenge.
 

XenoRaven

Member
I feel comfortable with my theory that she wants to kill everybody; especially powerful people.

She doesn't have the balls to go after Akuma though.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I honestly don't think we're gonna get anymore SF2 characters in the base roster. If Siliconera is on the money, then we're due for 2 characters from SF3 & 2 from Alpha. That adds up to 6 non-SF4 characters. This is why I think the big 8-character section is the "SF2, 3, & 4" section, while the sections of 4 are for newcomers & Alpha characters respectively.
And before anyone asks, I don't think the chart is counting SF1.
That's honestly the only way I can see the Siliconera characters lining up with the chart. This is assuming that Siliconera is on the money.
 

Kain

Member
They should put Oro in just to face him against Juri so the old half-naked guy can bitchslap her with the one hand. That would be the explanation as to why she is not present in SFIII: embarrassment.

Oh man, just got Oro all figured out for SFV:

V-skill: Napping, recovers from stun and gains V-meter

V-reversal: his turtle attacks

V-trigger: THE BEAST UNLEASHED, for a while he fights with both hands

I want Oro in my SFV now.
 

Mik317

Member
I honestly don't think we're gonna get anymore SF2 characters in the base roster. If Siliconera is on the money, then we're due for 2 characters from SF3 & 2 from Alpha. That adds up to 6 non-SF4 characters. This is why I think the big 8-character section is the "SF2, 3, & 4" section, while the sections of 4 are for newcomers & Alpha characters respectively.
And before anyone asks, I don't think the chart is counting SF1.
That's honestly the only way I can see the Siliconera characters lining up with the chart. This is assuming that Siliconera is on the money.

Ryu and Ken = SF1
Chun, Cammy and Bison = SF2
Urien and Alex = SF3
Juri =SFIV

Birdie, Nash, Mika, Karin =Alpha
and 4 newcomers.

It works out.
 

XenoRaven

Member
I kind of hope the colored sections are just a huge troll by Ono and they don't actually mean anything. Imagine the discussion if Necalli shows up right next to Chun-Li.
 

GorillaJu

Member
Except they don't actually play anything like each other. I wonder if the people dead set against her inclusion even realize this, I know I've seen at least one person shocked that she wasn't a "shoto".

Meh I think most people who don't want her in don't want her because they don't like the anime waifu uguu~s who have been begging for her inclusion since SSF4.
 

GorillaJu

Member
If we're only getting 16 characters I hope all of them are serious characters with unique play styles and cool appearances. So far I'm really happy with what they've shown... just not Ken's face/hair model.

I wonder what they'll do with R Mika's design. As she is, I don't feel like she fits into the SF5 art style, which is less colorful and a bit grittier than previous games. Certainly a lot more so than Alpha.
 

McNum

Member
She doesn't have the balls to go after Akuma though.
Akuma doesn't strike me as the kind of character one "goes after", though. If you're powerful enough or interesting enough, he will find you. Which basically means either be really powerful, like Bison, or mess with Ryu.

I kind of want to know why Akuma stopped following Ryu by 3rd Strike, though. Did he get his awesome fight, or something? They're both alive, so I guess Ryu won, but what gives?
 

XenoRaven

Member
Akuma doesn't strike me as the kind of character one "goes after", though. If you're powerful enough or interesting enough, he will find you. Which basically means either be really powerful, like Bison, or mess with Ryu.

I kind of want to know why Akuma stopped following Ryu by 3rd Strike, though. Did he get his awesome fight, or something? They're both alive, so I guess Ryu won, but what gives?
I suppose that's true. Although I'm pretty sure Akuma finds Bison to be pretty pathetic as he relies on a source of power that Akuma finds to be artificial. This would hold even more true for Juri, as the source of her power is the Feng Shui Engine, so she would probably get wrecked.

No idea about Akuma in 3S. I'd like to think Ryu's training with Oro actually made him more powerful without the Satsui no Hado, but I don't really know.
 

Imm0rt4l

Member
What are the possibilities of Sheng-Long coming back? I think he was underdeveloped.
It's possible. But he's not a favorite it seems. His sf4 incarnation wasn't a strong contender. That isn't to say that he can't be in sfv and be competent. He was just really poorly designed. Probably because he was designed as a cup opponent in mind. The boss gouken to playable gouken nerf was really palpable. Especially in a game where setups and fast comboable normals reign supreme. Doesn't seem to be the philosophy of sfv though.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Ryu and Ken = SF1
Chun, Cammy and Bison = SF2
Urien and Alex = SF3
Juri =SFIV

Birdie, Nash, Mika, Karin =Alpha
and 4 newcomers.

It works out.
That brings me to my next point. Assuming everything that Siliconera & Ken Bogard have said pans out, that only leaves one character left for the base roster. I think that will go to a SF4 veteran. The mots popular of the SF4 series of newbies is Juri (Crimson Viper is I believe 2nd, but Necalli has her seismos), so she makes the most sense to represent the SF4 games.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
Wait for real? I've been playing juri for a while and I always thought she was bisons right hand.



Hmm

From my understanding she's just kind of playing around with Bison. Thus pitting him against with Seth. So she wants revenge in her own playful way I guess. She lost her eye in the attack by bison that killed her family. That's why she has the Feng Shui Engine.
 

Imm0rt4l

Member
Akuma doesn't strike me as the kind of character one "goes after", though. If you're powerful enough or interesting enough, he will find you. Which basically means either be really powerful, like Bison, or mess with Ryu.

I kind of want to know why Akuma stopped following Ryu by 3rd Strike, though. Did he get his awesome fight, or something? They're both alive, so I guess Ryu won, but what gives?
Who knows. Capcom doesn't seem to care too much about story. But Ryu did fight akuma on his island before akuma destroyed the island with the kkz. Though I recall he wanted a rematch when ryu gets stronger.
 

FACE

Banned
Sooo what styles are we still missing?

- Heavy grappler (Zangief)
- Range zoner (Remy, Guile, Gouken, Dhalsim)
- Ninja (Claw, Ibuki)
- Ground pressure (Dudley, Feilong)
- Buffer/edge (Juri)
- Weird-ass hit properties (Blanka, Elena)
- Stances (Gen)

You missed the most important one:

- Thong(Urien, Gill)
 
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