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World of Warcraft |OT7| Feel the hatred of 10,000 Murlocs

CHC

Member
Mainly the quests were dull despite how gorgeous the zone was, and ontop of that combat was hell for melee, dealing with a z axis and all. As ranged I didn't mind it one bit.

My problem is that I faction changed and lost my portals to it a while back. Thus I don't have a way to get back to Vashj'ir unless I've been missing something.

You can just fly there with 310% speed. A fatigue bar will pop but you'll make it.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Is this real???

FLeAO5M.png


Do wonder why people bother.


March 11 is a Friday. Wow Expansions always drop on Tuesday.


do people even research this stuff? they go through all of the effort of making a graphic in photoshop and they can't even get that right.
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
March 11 is a Friday. Wow Expansions always drop on Tuesday.


do people even research this stuff? they go through all of the effort of making a graphic in photoshop and they can't even get that right.

Gamescom is in Germany.

That would be...November 3rd, 2016.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Gamescom is in Germany.

That would be...November 3rd, 2016.

thats still a Thursday, doesnt really counteract the point. unless they're implying a German release date and Germany/Europe gets their releases on Thursdays whereas USA gets it on Tuesday

also, yeah, being a year away doesn't make any sense either. no patches for a year and a half?
 
I think people are heavily misremembering the combat in Vashj'ir. I've done it on probably 5 different characters in the last few years and it has never been an issue.

The quests are fine as well, other than sharing the same problems that all Cataclysm era quests and zones have.
 

Tenebrous

Member
I think people are heavily misremembering the combat in Vashj'ir. I've done it on probably 5 different characters in the last few years and it has never been an issue.

The quests are fine as well, other than sharing the same problems that all Cataclysm era quests and zones have.

Have you done it on a melee only class?
 

ZenaxPure

Member
Have you done it on a melee only class?

I did it first with my rogue and never understood the complaints, never found the positioning stuff to be that bad. But then again I did have 6 years of practice before hand doing under water quests in other zones. I blame that shitty Zangarmarsh Eel quest that took me an hour to finish.

Anyway, I'm a big fan of the zone as well. Easily my favorite 80-85 cata zone.
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
thats still a Thursday, doesnt really counteract the point. unless they're implying a German release date and Germany/Europe gets their releases on Thursdays whereas USA gets it on Tuesday

also, yeah, being a year away doesn't make any sense either. no patches for a year and a half?

They do get it on Thursday, afaik Germany got WoD Nov 13, 2014 on a Thursday.

Would it REALLY surprise you if 6.2 lasted over a year?

It's most likely a fake picture either way, but it is faked just fine.


Also someone has seen the website get updated.
Not really much to show but here is something.

Being a web guy I know that blizzard web team usually slips up every now and again and leave issues with the site launch. Earlier in the thread I talked about how Blizzards web cms changed.

My watcher watches for when the version of the cms updates, this is usually to include new changes in the code for JavaScript and the page template.

They filter images and revisions by releasing them into a sub folder and JavaScript version at the end.

Example the class icons were v34/iconname.ext?=cdn pull.

I can confirm this morning that thre sites code was updated to v35 and the icon folder is larger than before using my crawler on mrgl mrgl.

V35 included 3 new JavaScript page includes which are still encoded and I am trying to decompile it but it takes some time since they use a smush and obfuscation method which changed in Mop and is hard to tear down.

Here's what's changed:

3 new JavaScript controllers
Class icon folder is now 2.2mb vs the 2.0mb
Page archive is now referencing 7 new webM files which are not available due to content lock. I will post the links as soon as I can get them out of the actual JavaScript includes.
A new page is referenced in the JavaScript for includes: /classes-extra/expansion06/content.htm [class-selection] [hero-class-eligible]

Note* hero class eligible references the Death Knight which means there's a reference to Death Knight onto the page, more than likely stating x race can be one. This is included in all pages of expansions which show class combos when the announced a new race.

I guess 1 new class and 1 new race? Of which the new race can be a DK. He didn't explain it very well.
 

SargerusBR

I love Pokken!
They do get it on Thursday, afaik Germany got WoD Nov 13, 2014 on a Thursday.

Would it REALLY surprise you if 6.2 lasted over a year?

It's most likely a fake picture either way, but it is faked just fine.


Also someone has seen the website get updated.


I guess 1 new class and 1 new race? Of which the new race can be a DK. He didn't explain it very well.

A neutral race then? Naga pls

Although it would be very hard for Naga to join the Alliance because of NE hatred.
 

Khezu

Member
Neutral race should be high elves just to make everyone angry.

I would like a truly Neutral race where you can interact with both Horde and Alliance, but that would obviously cause problems in Blizzards eyes, because they hate fun.
 

Shahadan

Member
I wanted to play naga during Vanilla already. Would be cool. It's now or never I guess.

If it's something else, don't really care. Ethereals/Ogres/whatever are boring.
 

Tenebrous

Member
I did it first with my rogue and never understood the complaints, never found the positioning stuff to be that bad. But then again I did have 6 years of practice before hand doing under water quests in other zones. I blame that shitty Zangarmarsh Eel quest that took me an hour to finish.

Anyway, I'm a big fan of the zone as well. Easily my favorite 80-85 cata zone.

3 or 4 times recently. My last 5 were Warrior, Rogue, DK, Shaman, Warlock.

You guys are mental. I like that.

To each their own.

Neutral race should be high elves just to make everyone angry.

I would like a truly Neutral race where you can interact with both Horde and Alliance, but that would obviously cause problems in Blizzards eyes, because they hate fun.

I wish they'd just allow cross faction chat already. Perhaps not in BGs because of the griefing it would potentially cause, but everywhere else? It's time, Blizzard. Add it! Am I truly meant to believe that when Vol'jin & Thrall talk to Varian at the end of Siege of Orgrimmar that the 25 raiders of the Horde/Alliance cannot understand a single word the opposite faction is saying?

Fix that shit.
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I told myself I wouldn't preorder the next expansion after WoD being WoD, but if thursday shows me neutral playable ethereal race and any cool looking class I will probably not be able to resist.
 

ampere

Member
If the next expac is all underwater zones, lol. It would be sand in my Vashj'ir

I told myself I wouldn't preorder the next expansion after WoD being WoD, but if thursday shows me neutral playable ethereal race and any cool looking class I will probably not be able to resist.

I think I won't be able to resist buying and leveling to 110 regardless. But I am not sure if I'll raid next expac. Might need a break
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
They do get it on Thursday, afaik Germany got WoD Nov 13, 2014 on a Thursday.

Would it REALLY surprise you if 6.2 lasted over a year?

It's most likely a fake picture either way, but it is faked just fine.


Also someone has seen the website get updated.


I guess 1 new class and 1 new race? Of which the new race can be a DK. He didn't explain it very well.

"Leak" smells fishy. Why would they push an update to their website fours days before a reveal. Usually that stuff is pushed out day of or during the announcement to prevent things like this happening.

Blizzard isn't dumb. They know people will scrape every trace of information.
 

Tenebrous

Member
"Leak" smells fishy. Why would they push an update to their website fours days before a reveal. Usually that stuff is pushed out day of or during the announcement to prevent things like this happening.

Blizzard isn't dumb. They know people will scrape every trace of information.

I remember a friend of mine who plays FF14 telling me that one of the big wigs at Square begged players not to datamine patch updates, haha. I like how Blizzard just admitted defeat and nowadays just put the ingame cinematics up in good quality as soon as possible.
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
"Leak" smells fishy. Why would they push an update to their website fours days before a reveal. Usually that stuff is pushed out day of or during the announcement to prevent things like this happening.

Blizzard isn't dumb. They know people will scrape every trace of information.

This poster specifically has posted stuff that was true before. Granted he found the information a bit differently, seems like it would be a little bit of a weird thing to do.

Regardless, finding out there will be a new race and a new class isn't really the biggest of leaks, it kinda goes without saying that would be the case actually, no leaks necessary.
 
"Leak" smells fishy. Why would they push an update to their website fours days before a reveal. Usually that stuff is pushed out day of or during the announcement to prevent things like this happening.

Blizzard isn't dumb. They know people will scrape every trace of information.

It doesn't look at simple as that. It's more that the CMS version was updated and he's gleaning possible changes from digging through de-obfuscated/minimized js.

It's not like he'll necessarily find leaked images or content, but he might find some small piece of code that allows you to infer a new class or race.

I think he may be confusing "multi class" here for the WoW meaning of class and not the code meaning of class, but this is an example of what he's finding:

Code:
if (Class.isMagic === 'manaUSER') {
			$('#multiClassOptions-0').attr('notOK', 'checked');
		} else if (Class.isMagic === 'heroUSER') {
			$('#multiClassOptions-1').attr('notOK', 'checked');
		} else if (Class.isMagic === 'meleeUSER') {
			$('#multiClassOptions-2').attr('notOK', 'checked');
		}
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
It doesn't look at simple as that. It's more that the CMS version was updated and he's gleaning possible changes from digging through de-obfuscated/minimized js.

It's not like he'll necessarily find leaked images or content, but he might find some small piece of code that allows you to infer a new class or race.

I think he may be confusing "multi class" here for the WoW meaning of class and not the code meaning of class, but this is an example of what he's finding:

Code:
if (Class.isMagic === 'manaUSER') {
			$('#multiClassOptions-0').attr('notOK', 'checked');
		} else if (Class.isMagic === 'heroUSER') {
			$('#multiClassOptions-1').attr('notOK', 'checked');
		} else if (Class.isMagic === 'meleeUSER') {
			$('#multiClassOptions-2').attr('notOK', 'checked');
		}


multiclass must mean we can all change classes for each character now. no more alts!
 

Wulfric

Member
I certainly wouldn't mind playing Dragonkin or Arakkoa. Blizzard isn't doing anything lorewise with Dragonkin right now, correct?

This speculation is just one reason why Blizzard shouldn't push updates to the website before the announcement date. That code change was probably up for only a few hours before that guy noticed and posted it on MMOChampion. It might not even be indicative of anything in the announcement.
 
I certainly wouldn't mind playing Dragonkin or Arakkoa. Blizzard isn't doing anything lorewise with Dragonkin right now, correct?

This speculation is just one reason why Blizzard shouldn't push updates to the website before the announcement date. That code change was probably up for only a few hours before that guy noticed and posted it on MMOChampion. It might not even be indicative of anything in the announcement.

If I'm Blizzard, I don't want to be pushing infrastructure updates alongside content updates during probably the busiest website hours of the year.

They do about as good a job you can at obfuscating this stuff.
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
Unless that person posts the source code that they scraped from the cms, I'm calling fake on that bit.

Just like the other "leaks", it would super easy to just make up some info that is just obscure enough, but confirms player wishes for it to blow up as something "legit".
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
Unless that person posts the source code that they scraped from the cms, I'm calling fake on that bit.

Just like the other "leaks", it would super easy to just make up some info that is just obscure enough, but confirms player wishes for it to blow up as something "legit".

He went through all this trouble to fake something that is incredibly obvious anyway? It's not even confirmation of anything, at most it's just showing that they have some 7.0 stuff on the website ready to go.
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
He went through all this trouble to fake something that is incredibly obvious anyway? It's not even confirmation of anything, at most it's just showing that they have some 7.0 stuff on the website ready to go.

Managed to get 67 pages of people talking about the info. Some people just enjoy the publicity enough.
 

ampere

Member
Did some RAF with heirlooms, 2 Monks. Level 90 in 10.5 hours played, it's gotten so fast with the 6.0 experience changes. 2.5 hours of that was Wandering Isle and setting up macros, took a while to start off
 
Dumb support article says they don't free names now, but I threw in a ticket (with a joke) anyway to see what they say.

Probably took up a lot of man hours so they said fuck it, but really, inactive for 2 whole expacs? If I don't get it whatever, I have something else that can work if I need it to.


In other news, raid team turmoil a-bewing slightly. Mostly it comes down to the time restriction of 6 hours a week and progression vs. farm when there's still important loot (tier) to be had for about 1/3 to 1/2 the raid team from the first 6 bosses. People who have been geared out from the loot council seem to want to focus more on progression, while those lacking gear (like me) are more intent on farming. And with the loot council, it's been sort of a rich get richer situation with people who were awarded tier early got awarded more tier to fill out 4 sets before others even had two-sets, not necessarily following a specific priority that would increase overall raid effectiveness.

So I'm not entirely happy right now. And like I think I mentioned before, it's a Catch-22 in regards to the possibility of leaving the team, since I wouldn't have any upward (or even lateral) mobility without decent logs....which I need gear for at this point.
 

Ark

Member
Do people not use DKP anymore? Back when I used to raid in Wrath no one on my server was using lootcouncil. Everything was DKP.
 

CassSept

Member
WoD launched on a Thursday for everyone.

Because November 11 is a federal holiday in many countries.

I don't know how important All Saints' Day is internationally and March 9 is not out of the question.

Doesn't matter either way with this obvious fake.
 

strafer

member
well shit, apparently info on the new expansion will be out before the actual live reveal.

stupid shit

there goes the surprise
 

Milennia

Member
Mythic archimonde is just the best boss I have ever progressed on, higher than heroic ragnaros for me right now, great way to end this expansion as a progress player.
 

ZenaxPure

Member
Yeah, just read there's a press event with no NDA. Stupid.

Where did you read that? Pretty weird move.

But to be honest I'm not really even mad, I'm fine as long as it gets us the info faster. I just really want to know the setting. Still hoping they will throw a curve ball and the next expansion will be something weird/new but I just assume they are going to play things really safe after how WoD turned out.
 

Zelias

Banned
Seems weird that Blizzard would sabotage their own expansion announcement like that, but... whatever. If we find out earlier, all the better, I suppose.
 

Ark

Member
Seems weird that Blizzard would sabotage their own expansion announcement like that, but... whatever. If we find out earlier, all the better, I suppose.

It's not sabotage, lol.

The only thing I'm hoping for is that they finally update the Boomkin & Treant models. I can't believe I took a five-year break and those models are still the same.
 
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