XT Vengeance
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Hell, the shift in Armada between 300 and 400 point games is pretty damn crazy as well. And that is only 100 points.
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Star Wars: X-Wing Miniatures Game | The Official Thread
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Good to hear! I should get mine late this week or early next. Thanks.
Haha that's awesome!
Thanks, I'll check it out.
I've received my Imperial Raider today. I'm almost sad to resell all the Epic things of it. Almost.
Shame nobody on my area has interest on playing that mode
Also, after having the ship on my hands, I keep what I said on theGamescom GenCon pics: the belly is effing ugly. The rest of the design is growing on me, tho.
Shame nobody on my area has interest on playing that mode
Also, after having the ship on my hands, I keep what I said on the
I've received my Imperial Raider today. I'm almost sad to resell all the Epic things of it. Almost.
Shame nobody on my area has interest on playing that mode
Also, after having the ship on my hands, I keep what I said on the GenCon pics: the belly is effing ugly. The rest of the design is growing on me, tho.
fixed =P
And because I'm still a bit low on cash following GenCon, I don't think it would be responsible of me to buy a Raider just yet. Might have to wait until next month. I really want one, though. I want my TIE Advanceds to be useful!
On Spain Wave 7 will be released the 28th, so it seems a good guess for the US. Raider date (today) was announced at the same time several weeks ago, and has been pretty accurate.
Judging by when it went on the boat (July 23), it probably won't be in stores until late September. I'd be surprised if it made it by the end of August to do that, it would have to go from on the boat to shipping by this coming Wednesday, less than a month after going on the boat. Stuff is usually on the boat for six weeks followed by a 10-day "shipping now" period before reaching store shelves.
So if you can wait another six weeks (or you're feeling lucky), just leave your order the way it is. Otherwise, sure, uncouple your order.
XT Vengeance
Member
Just preordered some Imperial-Class Star Destroyers and some Raiders to escort them for Armada. I look forward to the new tactics Wave 2 will open up. Gimme Mah tractor beams.
Got a tournament today and that possible cheat is going to be in attendance, I'm gonna keep my eye on him.
For those curious, my list:
As you can see, Fett gets a lot of re-rolls, IG is there to cause nuisance and his double shot tends to strip his opponent of their tokens (meaning sensor jammer comes into play). People really underestimate the power of the autoblaster, I've one-bombed a autothruster-stealth squint using it.
The list has some very under-utilised cards and I'm flying it because it's worked really well for me so far. The other week it flew against BBBBZ, had all 4 B's at range 1 and walked away taking only 1 damage.
For those curious, my list:
As you can see, Fett gets a lot of re-rolls, IG is there to cause nuisance and his double shot tends to strip his opponent of their tokens (meaning sensor jammer comes into play). People really underestimate the power of the autoblaster, I've one-bombed a autothruster-stealth squint using it.
The list has some very under-utilised cards and I'm flying it because it's worked really well for me so far. The other week it flew against BBBBZ, had all 4 B's at range 1 and walked away taking only 1 damage.
One Foul Note
Member
This is my current 'Boba an' the Bot' list. Next game I might trade in the autoblaster to replace the AHMs to see if it is any more effective.
Boba Fett (Scum) (39)
Stay On Target (2)
Outlaw Tech (2)
Advanced Homing Missiles (3)
Inertial Dampeners (1)
Extra Munitions (2)
Slave I (0)
IG-88B (36)
Push the Limit (3)
Advanced Sensors (3)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
"Hot Shot" Blaster (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Total: 100
Boba Fett (Scum) (39)
Stay On Target (2)
Outlaw Tech (2)
Advanced Homing Missiles (3)
Inertial Dampeners (1)
Extra Munitions (2)
Slave I (0)
IG-88B (36)
Push the Limit (3)
Advanced Sensors (3)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
"Hot Shot" Blaster (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Total: 100
OK! tourney done and I got 4th place!
Was a really good day, played some really cool people. I apologise but I didnt write down my opponents lists.
My first game was against a guy running a Han/Horn list (that he named Horny Han, heh)
Round 1, Win, 100-0
Round 2 was against a super-enthusiastic Imperial player
This was the closest game I've ever had. IG-88 went down like a sack of shit, but not before taking 3 of the Tie Fighters with him, Ouicunns bumps were the death of him. Meanwhile, THE UNTOUCHABLE BOBA FETT, wasn't very untouchable, The final round was won by my opponent when he scored the final hit against him with his lone decimator, if I had have dodged him, I would've won on Points. It was a great game, my opponent was shaking with excitement at the end, great guy.
Round 2, Loss, 51-100
Round 3 was against a guy running Dash and Lando
'do it.'
'...what? No I was joking'
'No, it's my mistake, it's a tournament, do it.'
So I flew Dash off the board. After that, IG-88 and THE UNTOUCHABLE BOBA FETT cleaned Lando up and scored me the win.
Round 3, Win, 100-0
Round 4, no prizes if you guess what this list was:
Not a fun match to play, it wasn't bad, but after 2 rounds of stress and IG-88 getting utterly ruined, I knew I wasn't winning this game. So I went down swinging, managed to take out the Y and a B before THE UNTOUCHABLE BOBA FETT's luck ran out and he died.
Losing this match meant I would not throw down against the guy who I reckoned was cheating. So that's a good thing, considering who my next opponent was...
Round 4, Loss, 50-0
Round 6 was an awkward one, at this point, 4 people had dropped and the software responsible for matching people up could not handle it and was throwing wobblers left right and centre. After 2 changes, I was sat opposite my final opponent, and this one I can give you the exact details of the list:
2 Y-Wings with Blaster Turret, Agromech and Title
1 Y-Wing with Blaster Turret and Agromech, no title.
This game was a good one, because of a combination of it being my final game of the day and because my opponent was none other than my dad. We've used our lists for ages, but never once did we play them against each other, so this game would be the first time they threw down.
My head was frazzled at this point, I was making constant mistakes and I nearly lost the game until I realised I was making a huge mistake. I've seen my dad play this list countless times and I know the secret behind it and it took me half the game to realise it.
Go for the HWK first!
So after IG-88 being battered down to 1 hull and THE UNTOUCHABLE BOBA FETT living up to his name, I focused on the HWK, it went down in 1 turn once they were both on him. After that, 1 more Y-Wing went down with it. At this point, the 5 minute warning was given. I sadly did not have the time to take the remaining down. I won on points.
Game 5, Win, 52-0
Needless to say, the cheat won. At one point, I swear I saw his dial show a white maneuver and suddenly, when he flipped it, was an S-Loop. The guy should be a stage magician for his slight of hand ability. Someone even accused him of cheating at one point, he didn't like that.
Anyway, great day, was my dads first tournament too, I got 4th and he got 7th.
Was a really good day, played some really cool people. I apologise but I didnt write down my opponents lists.
My first game was against a guy running a Han/Horn list (that he named Horny Han, heh)
Was a really good game, managed to luck out and nail his Han with a crit to rid him of his pilot ability and vet instincts, all whilst trying to stay the hell out of Horns arc (though thankfully, THE UNTOUCHABLE BOBA FETT) came through for me. After a few rounds, Han went down, Horn bumped Fett triggering APL and scoring a hit, after that, a really lucky manlger shot rid Horn of a stealth device and his shield and the rest was just Fett cleaning up.
Round 1, Win, 100-0
Round 2 was against a super-enthusiastic Imperial player
His list consisted of a mini Tie Swarm with NightBeast and ouicunn with ysanne and reb captive.
This was the closest game I've ever had. IG-88 went down like a sack of shit, but not before taking 3 of the Tie Fighters with him, Ouicunns bumps were the death of him. Meanwhile, THE UNTOUCHABLE BOBA FETT, wasn't very untouchable, The final round was won by my opponent when he scored the final hit against him with his lone decimator, if I had have dodged him, I would've won on Points. It was a great game, my opponent was shaking with excitement at the end, great guy.
Round 2, Loss, 51-100
Round 3 was against a guy running Dash and Lando
I feel bad about this win. I really do. The game went fairly standard, he was using Lando to do a green and give Dash 2 focus (because of recon spec), meanwhile Lando would evade, but he kept running his lando into Fett and I was scoring hits with APL. So I focused on Dash, stripped him of shields and critted him so turns were red. So he turns, stresses, then tries another turn, which is a red, So I had control of his ship at the edge of the board. I jokingly say 'I can run him off the board here'
'do it.'
'...what? No I was joking'
'No, it's my mistake, it's a tournament, do it.'
So I flew Dash off the board. After that, IG-88 and THE UNTOUCHABLE BOBA FETT cleaned Lando up and scored me the win.
Round 3, Win, 100-0
Round 4, no prizes if you guess what this list was:
Panic Attack, look it up.
Losing this match meant I would not throw down against the guy who I reckoned was cheating. So that's a good thing, considering who my next opponent was...
Round 4, Loss, 50-0
Round 6 was an awkward one, at this point, 4 people had dropped and the software responsible for matching people up could not handle it and was throwing wobblers left right and centre. After 2 changes, I was sat opposite my final opponent, and this one I can give you the exact details of the list:
Torkil Mux with Outlaw tech, blaster turret and Moldy Crow
2 Y-Wings with Blaster Turret, Agromech and Title
1 Y-Wing with Blaster Turret and Agromech, no title.
This game was a good one, because of a combination of it being my final game of the day and because my opponent was none other than my dad. We've used our lists for ages, but never once did we play them against each other, so this game would be the first time they threw down.
My head was frazzled at this point, I was making constant mistakes and I nearly lost the game until I realised I was making a huge mistake. I've seen my dad play this list countless times and I know the secret behind it and it took me half the game to realise it.
Go for the HWK first!
So after IG-88 being battered down to 1 hull and THE UNTOUCHABLE BOBA FETT living up to his name, I focused on the HWK, it went down in 1 turn once they were both on him. After that, 1 more Y-Wing went down with it. At this point, the 5 minute warning was given. I sadly did not have the time to take the remaining down. I won on points.
Game 5, Win, 52-0
Needless to say, the cheat won. At one point, I swear I saw his dial show a white maneuver and suddenly, when he flipped it, was an S-Loop. The guy should be a stage magician for his slight of hand ability. Someone even accused him of cheating at one point, he didn't like that.
Anyway, great day, was my dads first tournament too, I got 4th and he got 7th.
One Foul Note
Member
Great tourney writeup, thanks for that. Sorry it sounded like some of the event was ruined by unsportsmanlike behavior but it sounds like it was great overall. Love your Dads camo HWK, very funky.
Wave 7 has switched to "shipped" on FFG website, so in 7-10 days for the US.
Also, what noone expected. At all. Really.
X-wings with boost, TIE Fighters with 4 actions, and apparently two "new" factions... but I guess they will be compatible with Rebels and Imperials. Otherwise, a lot of people will be pissed.
Also, what noone expected. At all. Really.
X-wings with boost, TIE Fighters with 4 actions, and apparently two "new" factions... but I guess they will be compatible with Rebels and Imperials. Otherwise, a lot of people will be pissed.
MisterAnderson
Member
WAIT WHAT. I don't understand, are they considered different ships, or is it an upgrade to the existing Tie Fighter/X-Wing? This is a new starter set with exclusive cards and ships?
Edit: Also out of curiosity, how many of each ship are you guys planning on picking up for wave 7? And sorry I haven't updated the OP in a while, I'll get to it sooner or later.
wookieofdoom
Member
Most likely different ships, it is the T-70 after all. Also you may notice that the 2 bank template also has the S-loop icon on it, so the new TIEs will most likely have that maneuver. I assume there will be separate blister packs for the T-70 X-Wing and the First Order TIE, and I really, really hope the X-Wing pack comes with a fix for the old X-Wings.
My pre-order list for wave 7: one Hound's Tooth, 2 K-fighters, 2 TIE Punishers, 1 K-Wing. I am most excited about the TIE Punisher. Redline seems like the real deal.
Given they use all the same symbology, right down to adding Segnor's loop to the rulers, and it being branded X-Wing Miniatures it should be fine.
Icefire1424
Member
Rookie here, so pardon my ignorance.
I'm assuming the new T-70's and TIE's are intended to be more points than their Wave 1 counterparts, correct? I know there's been a lot of discussion on "fixing" the Wave 1 stuff, my assumption is this is FFG's response - by beefing up the core X-Wing and TIE, but still allowing for the "cheaper" Wave 1 options, albeit with more limited abilities?
I'm assuming the new T-70's and TIE's are intended to be more points than their Wave 1 counterparts, correct? I know there's been a lot of discussion on "fixing" the Wave 1 stuff, my assumption is this is FFG's response - by beefing up the core X-Wing and TIE, but still allowing for the "cheaper" Wave 1 options, albeit with more limited abilities?
We know nothing beyond what's in the pics, unfortunately, and they seem oddly well crafted to hide basically everything.
Did someone say "leak"?
Totally new ships. Notice how the TIE has a different name (TIE/fo, which I guess means Fist Order), and the X-wing has the name "displaced" to the right, so there is something before. Probably the "T-70".
They will also be sold on their own expansions, tho. FFG jumped 3 serial numbers with Wave 7, so we can assume they will be the new Core Set, the T-70 and the TIE/fo. If there is a fix for the classic X and TIE, will be on those expansions, as on the core set only seems to be 5 upgrade cards.
Nah, thats just to update the template maneuvers to the new things we have now.
On Wave 7, right now I only plan to get a Punisher (Deathrain FTW, I'm in fucking love with him after using him the last few weeks on Vassal) and 1 or 2 Khiraxz. Once I decide to start pushing into the Rebel side, I'll get a K-wing for sure. On the Hound's I'm not totally sold yet. I must test it before.
Icefire1424
Member
Ah, gotcha.
Been following this game forever, but have still yet to actually pick it up. Trying to decide if getting the "classic" core and early wave stuff was still viable, or if I should just hold off at this point and wait for...whatever this is...to drop first. Thoughts are I'll still be picking up the early stuff for the pilots and abilities.
Still, pretty cool that it appears there will be some tougher X-Wings headed back into the fight.
Been following this game forever, but have still yet to actually pick it up. Trying to decide if getting the "classic" core and early wave stuff was still viable, or if I should just hold off at this point and wait for...whatever this is...to drop first. Thoughts are I'll still be picking up the early stuff for the pilots and abilities.
Still, pretty cool that it appears there will be some tougher X-Wings headed back into the fight.
Best thing you can do? Find a local game club with someone who plays it and ask if they'll give you a demo. You may find people looking to shift their "spare" stuff (e.g. people who dabbled with Imperials but normally play Rebel) and pick up a collection at a knock down price as I have. (I have too many Z-95s)
MisterAnderson
Member
If I were you I'd buy 1 of the classic Core Sets and 1 of the new ones. Most of us purchased two of the original Core Sets due to the value being really good for the ships you get and the extra die and damage cards that allow you to play a proper game with two players without the second player having their own Core Set.
You're in the lucky position of knowing that a new Core Set is around the corner, so you can make one of the new ones count towards your second Core Set, whereas we will be buying a third one. xD
MisterAnderson
Member
Are you getting two Punishers for the cards? I feel like they are going to be costly to run in a 100 point squad (like the K-Wing) and am wrestling with whether or not to go with 1 or 2, but I think fitting 2 Punishers in a squad might be pushing it.
It's made me kinda sad that this has leaked. Firstly because this stuff was supposed to be for Force Friday, which is essentially Star Wars Christmas for fans (apart from the movie release date, obviously) and secondly because we have 2 weeks until the Disney NDA is up so we're going to get no more info on this pack until then.
I would get (and plan to get) two Punishers to have more copies of Twin Ion Engine Mk. II. Another Extra Munitions would be nice, too.
Technically, I already got a Punisher at GenCon, so I'll just be buying one more. Didn't get a K-Wing, though, and I plan on getting one of those. I also already got a Kihraxz, but I really like that thing and probably will get one or two more ... unless FFG keeps unloading product on us at a rapid pace! The Raider was last week (haven't bought it yet but really want it), Wave 7's official launch is next week and the week after that on Sept. 4 I'm sure we'll get that Core Set 2.0 (the leaker said that's what it was called in his computer system) as well as individual T-70 X-Wing and TIE/FO Fighter packs. That's $265 worth of stuff MSRP for just one of everything. And I still have a credit card bill from GenCon to pay -_-
You guys notice that T-70 pilot's ability, though? It lets you use the 1 hard turn templates to boost instead of the bank templates. Pretty cool. Looks like his name is either Rogue Ace or Blue Ace. The Resistance maneuver dial shows a green 3 straight, so we probably can safely assume that's on the T-70's dial. And if you squint, you can kinda make out the T-70 cardboard base under the model and it looks like it has 3 shields (with 3 hull, 2 agility and 3 attack) so it's gonna be a bit beefier than the T-65.
The TIE/FO seems to have Evade, Barrel Roll, Focus and Target Lock for actions, so that's kinda interesting. I have a feeling that the ability of the named pilot, Epsilon Leader, will be something like "At the start of the Combat Phase, remove 1 Target Lock token from a friendly ship," based on the centering and spacing.
wookieofdoom
Member
Mostly for the cluster mines template, and also for epic games.
Poe's Halloween X-Wing seems like a good candidate for an Aces pack. The Special Forces TIE probably will be its own ship in a future wave, which should be pretty cool.
mmm, that too.
MisterAnderson
Member
I can't remember if there are any cards that would be the Rebel equivalent of the Twin Ion Engine Mk. II card in the K-Wing pack that would warrant getting two of those? How many Twin Laser Turrets come in the pack, and are there cluster mines or just the conner net in that one?
Ugh. Really didn't want to have to get two Punishers (as I'd rather get two K-Wings if anything, even though I think that's also overkill but since I play Rebel more than Imperial) but I think you guys are convincing me.
Two copies of Twin Laser Turret, so if you want to run one of those miniswarms of TLT ships that people are starting to talk about (four PS2 HWks with TLT and RecSpec, srsly) then you'd need to get a second K-Wing. K-wing also has just one Connor Net and one Extra Munitions.
Double-posting like a boss.
A Redditor named EdgeofCosmos said in the big thread over there:
So take that as you will.
I wonder if they'll require the new damage deck for tournaments starting with Worlds this November or with Store Champs next year.
A Redditor named EdgeofCosmos said in the big thread over there:
EdgeofCosmos said:
So take that as you will.
I wonder if they'll require the new damage deck for tournaments starting with Worlds this November or with Store Champs next year.
MisterAnderson
Member
Lol.
Don't see why you would. The dice aren't changing, from the looks of it. Unless you really want to be able to field squadrons full of T-70s and TIE/FOs in a more fiscally conservative manner than just buying a bunch of individual expansions.
MisterAnderson
Member
If the damage deck is updated to allow crits to take out crew/system upgrades, I'd need two of those decks to play with friends who come over to play (with the updated rules at least).
Ah, didn't consider having enough materials for two people.
MisterAnderson
Member
Yeah. I really hope that if they update the damage deck that they sell it separate.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
maybe it'll just be errata to certain cards? Or you could mark out a couple cards in the current deck (ie, if Direct HIts go down or something) and marker over those cards with the new ones?