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Youtube Gaming set to launch... TOMORROW !
- Thread starter NetMapel
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Yep. Desktop site is just bad bad bad. :/
Okay so let me ask you this since you seem fairly knowledgeable in this area; what's the best solution for high quality streaming and simultaneous recording?
Diablohead
Member
Are the main page videos selected by your viewing history or popularity? because I really don't want tons of FIFA PACKET OPENINGS LIVE videos, I never watch them.
*edit* video playback performance is great HTML5 is only using half of my old cpu to watch a 720p stream, sadly the entire website kills firefox performance and gives me huge pauses in responce which means it's shit for me to use while I work.
*edit* video playback performance is great HTML5 is only using half of my old cpu to watch a 720p stream, sadly the entire website kills firefox performance and gives me huge pauses in responce which means it's shit for me to use while I work.
VanquishUK
Member
Site keeps crashing for me for a few seconds.
If Youtube's Live Stream BETA is any indication, roughly 10 - 15 seconds.
qa_engineer
Member
definitely better than twitch IMO.
I know right. Scrubbing in live feeds is just too good. No more waiting for an arbitrary time for the vod to be available or not available.
It really depends on your computer. However, I find the biggest factor in high quality streaming/recording is the bitrate. The higher it is, the better. Youtube allows for a maximum of 9000 bitrate so I have streamed beautiful 1080p at 60fps on there while recording a local copy as well. However, not all computer can handle that, so you should definitely play with that on your own computer. I use OBS as the streaming software, by the way and this is a great guide to help: https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/guide-how-to-stream-to-youtube.4333/
Once again, streaming-wise... it's not at all different between streaming to twitch or youtube. You just put in a different server and server key into your streaming software, that's all. The added bonus with Youtube is that its player allows its viewer to watch at a lower setting if they need to. Twitch doesn't.
styl3s
Member
Out of curiosity what about it is better than twitch to you? I have only messed around with it for a few minutes and my only complaint is the UI.
I am curious as to what people think about the process of streaming i might stream some heroes and BF4 later.
jediyoshi
Member
In no world does this lead to a better UX than twitch
The amount of scrolling you have to do to see at least, say, just a dozen channels is absurd.
It depends, definitely not as far as streaming is concerned. The importance of getting curated means discovery from the viewer or discovery for the streamer is awful. You can't just browse a list of top games or top streamers.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
If there's one thing I hope this does to Twitch it's pushing for zero delay on stream.
They had it at the start and man interaction was 100x better.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Tablet/mobile UI on desktop is bad
You think Google would have learned from Microsoft, but yeah...
You think Google would have learned from Microsoft, but yeah...
qa_engineer
Member
In no world does this lead to a better UX than twitch
The amount of scrolling you have to do to see at least, say, just a dozen channels is absurd.
opinions or fact?
Danlord
Member
In no world does this lead to a better UX than twitch
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In my opinion, that is a god-awful UI. It is so busy and cluttered, at first glance I have no idea what's going on and I am overwhelmed with the amount of pictures, tabs, icons. Wow.
I don't think this is doomed, it will get better and I trust Google/YouTube will improve the service over time, it's literally just launched but I did start to watch a Gears of War Ultimate Edition stream and it was smooth 1080p and the detail was excellent. YouTube at E3 was perfection for me after using Twitch, and something like this with Sony's integration for PS4 3.00 is going to be even better for it, but right now it's going to be ironing out the kinks pretty quickly.
RedAssedApe
Banned
opinions...but they seem to be leaning more heavily towards the desktop UI sucking. at least in this thread.
SoundPulse
Banned
I like the video page, but not so much the rest of the UI. I've had it stick to the top and bottom of the page.
Yea pretty much. I think I'll just use youtube proper most of the time and switch to gaming when actually watching videos.
Randomizer123454444
Member
I used desktop UI (Chrome Win10), Opened Hearthstone, live streams section. It only opened up two streams. It seemed weird, so I refreshed and THEN rest of them appeared.
I do appreciate the ability to favorite games, but the site seems bugged atm. Also, when watching uploaded videos list of a Youtube channel, every few rows is HIGHLIGHTED WITH MASSIVE ICONS for no good reason. I had to look at video time tags to make sure that it was indeed a chronologically ordered list, because the video icons were just jumping all over the place.
I clicked the most popular stream, escapist stream. It was offline. Weird, because it showed up in "live" section. I browsed around a bit, came back few mins later and the escapist stream was STILL visible in "live" section even though it was offline when I clicked it (again).
Gaming-side lists only use about half of screen real estate to show lists. It's especially annoying when half of videos ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH BIG ICONS.
First impression: instant replay is nice but other than that, I highly prefer cleaner and more simple interfaces of normal Youtube & Twitch.
I do appreciate the ability to favorite games, but the site seems bugged atm. Also, when watching uploaded videos list of a Youtube channel, every few rows is HIGHLIGHTED WITH MASSIVE ICONS for no good reason. I had to look at video time tags to make sure that it was indeed a chronologically ordered list, because the video icons were just jumping all over the place.
I clicked the most popular stream, escapist stream. It was offline. Weird, because it showed up in "live" section. I browsed around a bit, came back few mins later and the escapist stream was STILL visible in "live" section even though it was offline when I clicked it (again).
Gaming-side lists only use about half of screen real estate to show lists. It's especially annoying when half of videos ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH BIG ICONS.
First impression: instant replay is nice but other than that, I highly prefer cleaner and more simple interfaces of normal Youtube & Twitch.
Winterblink
Member
Your youtube channel still needs to be connected to G+ before you can request live streaming to be enabled.
uggghhghh
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jediyoshi
Member
IMO, in no world does this lead to a better UX than twitch.
Objectively, you have to interact with the site much more to still see much less compared to twitch. This doesn't even include the fact that a game's landing page doesn't just include streams but rather a hybrid of all its media. IMO, I never had an issue looking for non-streaming content on YouTube, so them trying to make the experience all inclusive is mostly in vein in my opinion. IMO, finding content is as important as watching content itself. IMO, you're better off currently using an android emulator with the mobile app to use the service to browse.
bananafactory
Banned
The app says it's not available in my country
I'm in NA. Dafuq Google?
I'm in NA. Dafuq Google?
Macho Madness
Member
Objectively IMO is objective. IMO of course.
I am not sure I am understanding you. There is a live tab right there. Click on that, pretty simple.
I like that there are a review tab, lets play and and explore tab including a company tab. More info that Twitch.
This will com in handy when you look at a game and have no clue about it.
hodayathink
Member
While I understand that the most popular live-streamers aren't going to switch over from Twitch very soon, I wonder if we're going to start seeing developers use Youtube for live streaming instead of Twitch. I'd imagine that the most devs don't really have to worry about the monetization aspect of it, and as far as the actual stream it seems like Youtube allows a higher quality.
jediyoshi
Member
Right, you click another link to list only streams. I'm making the distinction that the landing page doesn't inherently just list streams.
Neither does twitch.
Edit well the profile page doesn't, my mistake.
Is it really that hard to click on the live link?
jediyoshi
Member
There are widgets? I do agree some editing is needed.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Legitimately curious, which streaming site do you guys think has the best UI for their main pages?
Twitch:
Hitbox:
YouTube Gaming:
Twitch:
Hitbox:
YouTube Gaming:
This is actually a good thing, to me. I like that YT is trying to encompass prerecorded footage into Let's Plays, Reviews, etc.
Twitch doesn't show enough info and is ugly. hitbox is too tiled but pretty solid. YTG's sidebars are too distracting, but their quick live banner is nice. And the videos are way too large.
I'd have to say hitbox's is probably the best at this stage.
For those commenting on the homepage UI..
First, thanks for the feedback.
Second, we're working on a few performance issues that have cropped up during the launch regarding loading on gaming.youtube.com. Stay tuned.
Additionally, try importing / adding your gaming channels you already subscribe to on YT and also add your favorite games. The homepage takes on a much different feel once it's the channels and games that you love.
First, thanks for the feedback.
Second, we're working on a few performance issues that have cropped up during the launch regarding loading on gaming.youtube.com. Stay tuned.
Additionally, try importing / adding your gaming channels you already subscribe to on YT and also add your favorite games. The homepage takes on a much different feel once it's the channels and games that you love.
bananafactory
Banned
For those commenting on the homepage UI..
First, thanks for the feedback.
Second, we're working on a few performance issues that have cropped up during the launch regarding loading on gaming.youtube.com. Stay tuned.
Additionally, try importing / adding your gaming channels you already subscribe to on YT and also add your favorite games. The homepage takes on a much different feel once it's the channels and games that you love.
Do you have any insight on the mobile app? I'm in Canada but it says it's not available in my country