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[Ogodei]

Unless they have a lot of surprise Wii U game announcements for 2016 other than Zelda I don't see how they can keep it going until 2017. It's not desirable but this really is a case where it looks like they may have little choice but to break the normally sacred 5 year minimum cycle.

Microsoft did the same thing and it really didn't hurt the 360.

It's actually not a *bad* holiday lineup (outside of Japan which is missing both Xenoblade and Wooly World since they have both already), it just lacks a marquee game. It'll be bad-ish for sales, but Wii U sales aren't a priority for Nintendo any more, and clearly haven't been since the push in 2013 failed to make much headway.

For existing, NA owners: Yoshi's Wooly World, Animal Crossing AF, Devil's Third, Fatal Frame V, Mario Tennis, and Xenoblade Chronicles X. Definitely a range from superior to bad games in there, but also a fairly diverse lineup. Just nothing that will light up the charts.

 

[Danthrax]

Unless they have a lot of surprise Wii U game announcements for 2016 other than Zelda I don't see how they can keep it going until 2017. It's not desirable but this really is a case where it looks like they may have little choice but to break the normally sacred 5 year minimum cycle.

To be fair, they broke it the other way by making the Wii live for six years when it really had no right to survive past five.

Microsoft did the same thing and it really didn't hurt the 360.

The 360 has enjoyed extensive third-party support even to this day. C'mon, it's not the same situation at all.

 

[Ogodei]

Thank god this game was delayed it clearly need more time in the oven.

Looked worse then star fox assualt on gamecube and the star fox 64 remake on 3DS and saying something when it's on much powerful hardware.

Higher resolution and crisper environments. Assault and 3D seemed to have more going on (and run at a smoother framerate, which i think is critical in terms of Nintendo's own game-design philosophy for SF0), but they're going to look ugly in other respects.

 

[Discomurf]

Looks like a cathode ray tube amusement device game.

 

[Ogodei]

To be fair, they broke it the other way by making the Wii live for six years when it really had no right to survive past five.





The 360 has enjoyed extensive third-party support even to this day. C'mon, it's not the same situation at all.

Depends on whether Wii U owners really feel "burned" by the system as it stands, which would be possible for hardcore Zelda fans, but everyone else should be quite satisfied with the system even by the end of year 3. There's not much else (again, stalking around the Zelda gorilla) that they can do for the base as it is, and that's all that's buying Wii U anyway.

 

[Morts]

I'd be up for new Nintendo hardware next fall. I don't know how likely it is, but I don't see them supporting the Wii U with anything other than Zelda and Star Fox.

 

[pizzapizza64]

The 360 has enjoyed extensive third-party support even to this day. C'mon, it's not the same situation at all.

The other poster meant that there was no backlash in terms of Xbox 360 sales despite the short life of the original Xbox.

 

[perfectchaos007]

I would rather play with dirt. At least dirt has better graphics and is 60 FPS

 

[DieH@rd]

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$350 for a full SKU [PSVR + camera + 2 moves]
$300 a most heavily promoted SKU [PSVR + camera]
$200-250 for a basic SKU [just PSVR]


I have camera, so I'm hoping they will release the most basic package in sales.

 

[Chittagong]

Aha, I was right after all! Can I un-eat the crow I had at E3?

 

[Discomurf]

I would rather play with dirt. At least dirt has better graphics and is 60 FPS

Ironically that Ray tube game was likely 60 fps

 

[Mufausa The 3rd]

Good.

^

Game looks rough still

 

[Danthrax]

The other poster meant that there was no backlash in terms of Xbox 360 sales despite the short life of the original Xbox.

Ah, sorry about that, then.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Hey man, Platinum's been chomping at the bit to do a Star Fox game. Now, I agree that the game doesn't look great, but it'd probably look worse a lot worse if Treasure was working on it at this point in time given the short development cycle given to Platinum.

Eh, I think Platinum is hardly the problem here.

 

[tanooki27]

oof, bad news

 

[Shang]

As many have already said, the game looked rough with a capital R. Hopefully when we see the game next, it looks better and, more importantly, more fun.

 

[DownGrader]

Ironically that Ray tube game was likely 60 fps

It was vector too! That's, like, all the p's!

 

[BiggNife]

As much as I would've loved to play a Starfox this year, I'm glad they delayed it. It looked like it was missing polish.

 

[Mory Dunz]

Unless they have a lot of surprise Wii U game announcements for 2016 other than Zelda I don't see how they can keep it going until 2017. It's not desirable but this really is a case where it looks like they may have little choice but to break the normally sacred 5 year minimum cycle.

I guess, even in the Wii U's "prime" it was getting 8-9 Nintendo made games in a year. If 2017 got around 4-5, it would be horrible, but the situation was horrible to begin with.

My issue is, the most important thing right now is nailing the NX. If that means a handheld NX release in 2016 to ride things out and console release in 2017, then so be it.

As of how, how many games could they have ready for a full scale release in 2016?

I don't know the names of the teams but:
- Smash came out Fall 2014, has been getting DLC. No chance for a new one in 2016, though that was obvious.
-MK8 came out May 2014, has been getting an eff load of DLC.
- Mario Party Just came out
- Mario Maker was made by the 2D Mario people right? It just came out
- Monolithsoft busy too
- Next Level is doing Metroid FF right?
- Alpha Dream is doing M&L 5
- Int Sys just finished Fire Emblem and STEAM recently.
- How many Zelda teams are there? Well, someone Zelda just did Majora's Mask and Triforce Heroes, and the rest are working on Zelda U I would assume.
- We know about Star Fox
- Camelot with Mario Tennis

I don't see any major games being ready to be released.

I guess groups like Retro, 3D Mario People, Zelda, Pikmin, could possibly have a game by 2016. Not definite though

The only way to have a decent release would be to port a bunch of Wii U games, which would be underwheling.

 

[Firemind]

Where is my Falco amiibo? щ(ಠ益ಠ&#1097

 

[Axass]

That looks like a washing machine.

 

[Arc Christelle]

Looks like Ball In Cup

 

[OmegaFax]

I don't know why people are worried about why Wolf would hypothetically be delayed from Smash Bros. because Star Fox Zero is pushed to Q1 '16. Yoshi's Woolly World was included in Smash Bros. months ahead of its release (and nearly a year later in the US).

 

[Wensih]

Called it.

 

[Toparaman]

Holy shit, what are the specs of the PC running this? Almost looks pre-rendered.

 

[MutFox]

Nintendo fans surprised at a delay?
How long have some of you been Nintendo fans... LOL

 

[Garlador]

Nintendo fans surprised at a delay?
How long have some of you been Nintendo fans... LOL

Over twenty years! But 30 if you count the delays.

 

[Regiruler]

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$350 for a full SKU [PSVR + camera + 2 moves]
$300 a most heavily promoted SKU [PSVR + camera]
$200-250 for a basic SKU [just PSVR]


I have camera, so I'm hoping they will release the most basic package in sales.

Wrong thread?

 

[nynt9]

Wrong thread.

 

[Papacheeks]

I love how people are quoting That " a delayed game is eventually a good game, but a rushed game is bad or however it goes"

Yet Devil's third was delayed a bunch and it was still shit.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

They should have just put out a Sin & Punishment 2 Remaster.

It'd probably be better than a new Star Fox.

no probably about it

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I love how people are quoting That " a delayed game is eventually a good game, but a rushed game is bad or however it goes"

Yet Devil's third was delayed a bunch and it was still shit.

That game was beyond hope. And Miyamoto had nothing to do with it.

 

[balgajo]

I hope it looks like this after the delay and graphics upgrade.

 

[Social]

Good . the game looked like a PS1 launch title

Oh PLEASE!

This game will turn out fine, a solid 8. It's good that it gets a bit more time in development. I'm Trusting in Nintendo to make it much better because of the extra months.

 

[DieH@rd]

Wrong thread?

ooops

 

[Tertullian]

Looks like

...

ah fuck it

 

[Agent Unknown]

To be fair, they broke it the other way by making the Wii live for six years when it really had no right to survive past five.

Right. That's why I said "minimum."

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

For the polygon, shaders, and post processing effects gods. We thank you.

 

[Brandon F]

Fully expected. Game looked rough at every showing. Even at E3 there was no way 2015 was going to happen despite the claims based on its state. I was expecting summer 2016 actually in reality.

 

[Discomurf]

Looks like

...

ah fuck it

oh man, I thought we were going to keep this going haha...

OK I'll go....

Looks like A Milton Bradley game

 

[Disaster Nebraska]

Gotta add more puzzles and "discovery".

This game is going to be terrible.

 

[lastrealgameralive]

They need to give the game an RE4 reboot.

 

[Papacheeks]

That game was beyond hope. And Miyamoto had nothing to do with it.

Platinum is making Star fox, your point? It's his quote and it's getting used in this thread, which is a game made by Platinum games mostly.

Devil's third though not Myamoto's game was a Nintendo third party exclusive, shouldn't they have over seen it like Bayanetta 2?

 

[illusionary]

While disappointing to hear, I'm hopeful that the delay will be just what the game needs to turn the corner an fulfil its promise.

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

Platinum is making Star fox, your point? It's his quote and it's getting used in this thread, which is a game made by Platinum games mostly?

That's not what Miyamoto and Nintendo are claiming who claim that PG is helping finish the game at Nintendo's development HQ. I mean what did they do scrap that original prototype with the helicopter? tank? and arwing we obviously see in the current version?

 

[Regulus Tera]

they arent obviously rushed. most people woukd not play those games and walk away going ''man they rushed those games out''. im all for the delay of star fox if it will make it better

Wind Waker is very obviously missing dungeons, and the blue coins in Sunshine tell the story of a game that didn't have all the content planned. We recently got news that Sunshine was supposed to have five more worlds, too.

 

[XaosWolf]

My avatar sums up how I reacted yesterday morning. Especially paired with the P5 delay.

While disappointing, it was expected given the feedback they've been receiving.

They'd better not delay the Falco amiibo though because reasons.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Platinum is making Star fox, your point? It's his quote and it's getting used in this thread, which is a game made by Platinum games mostly.

Devil's third though not Myamoto's game was a Nintendo third party exclusive, shouldn't they have over seen it like Bayanetta 2?

It's actually a joint effort between EAD and Platinum. Miyamoto is involved with Star Fox Zero. He did not work on Devi's Third.

 

[Cheeseman Battitude]

A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.


Take your god damn time and make it amazing.

Duke Nukem Forever.

 

[Discomurf]

Looks like Ball In Cup