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EA Survey hints at possible PC subscription service

Nzyme32

Member
Some of the games listed make no sense.
Red Dead?
Doom 3 under Activision?
Crash Bandicoot?
Ubi own Baldur's Gate now?
Dragon Age and Dragon Age: Origins?

Doom 3 was published under Activision.

Regardless, this is just a market research company doing their thing, speculatively looking into an area EA have likely identified as wanting more info on
 

Spacejaws

Member
Ubisoft owning Baldur's Gate confuses and enfuriates me.

I would sign up to a subscription service that would actively prevent this.

I love most Ubi games but I would never want this
 

Alasfree

Member
Doom 3 was published under Activision.

Regardless, this is just a market research company doing their thing, speculatively looking into an area EA have likely identified as wanting more info on
Yeah but it's not their property now.

Anyway even if this is probably fake i personally have no interest in a subscription of this type, mostly because i already own almost all of this games on Steam, and whatever games Ubisoft, Activision and EA are producing for the future don't really interest me either. The Bethesda games i want i am just gonna buy.
 

Pudge

Member
Just renewed my EA Access on Xbox One recently, would gladly pay an extra $20 or so a month just to expand the service onto PC. It's been very convenient and allowed my roommate to get into Dragon Age despite not really buying new games. If they were to work with other publishers, or just make what is available on Origin now part of the subscription, that would be icing on the cake.

Also, there was that rumor a few days ago that EA execs were talking with CD Project Red. Perhaps they're looking to team up with GoG to make a true Netflix for games on PC? Having access to a large majority of the GOG library on top of the EA games would be a dream!
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
Just renewed my EA Access on Xbox One recently, would gladly pay an extra $20 or so a month just to expand the service onto PC. It's been very convenient and allowed my roommate to get into Dragon Age despite not really buying new games. If they were to work with other publishers, or just make what is available on Origin now part of the subscription, that would be icing on the cake.

Also, there was that rumor a few days ago that EA execs were talking with CD Project Red. Perhaps they're looking to team up with GoG to make a true Netflix for games on PC? Having access to a large majority of the GOG library on top of the EA games would be a dream!

The rumor was bullshit.
 

Nzyme32

Member
Yeah but it's not their property now.

Anyway even if this is probably fake i personally have no interest in a subscription of this type, mostly because i already own almost all of this games on Steam, and whatever games Ubisoft, Activision and EA are producing for the future don't really interest me either. The Bethesda games i want i am just gonna buy.

It's not "fake", it's market research. It doesn't need to pertain to an actual upcoming product or service, just whatever is of interest to the company that has initiated it - in this case EA.
 
Eh, you already technically are paying for a subscription on Steam.

Oh are you one of those crazy people that thinks spending 5 dollars (which you could easily spend by buying a game you wanted to play on Steam), one time and one time only, for a brand new account to use advanced community features is a subscription?

When you buy a game, they refer to it as a subscription, and legally, it's treated as such.

Come on, son. You know what subscription means in this sense we are talking about in this thread.
 
I'm honestly surprised that EA hasn't put Access on Origin/PC yet. Seems like easy money to me.

Eh, you already technically are paying for a subscription on Steam.

That's news to me.

When you buy a game, they refer to it as a subscription, and legally, it's treated as such.

The most technical of technicalities, which also applies to other DD services (including PSN and XBL) as well.
 
I already own at least 90% of the games listed on that survey, so it would not mean much to me. Seems like a good idea, cannot imagine any publisher allowing their games to be rented day one. Especially if it is going to be a big AAA game that will sell a lot the first week. The price I pay for PC games is already cheaper then going to Blockbuster and renting a game for a console years ago.
 

impact

Banned
Sounds like a terrible idea to be honest. PC gamers are not Xbox One gamers. I know their service works on there, but the tastes are polar opposites between the platforms.
 

Syriel

Member
I kinda think of this similarly to PS+ or Xbox Live Games with Gold: I see the value in it for a lot of people, and I think it's a good thing for them. But not really worth it to me, since personally I have a huge backlog that I've paid for + I buy a lot of stuff within a year of release. With PS+, almost all the games released on the PS3 service, I already owned before they got featured. Same with Xbox Live Games with Gold on 360. On the One/PS4, they've been good at getting more new releases, so that's starting to change, but still.

The other thing for me is that EA, Ubisoft, and Activision by and large don't make games I want to play. Would I play some of these games for free? Maybe, probably not. Would I want to subscribe largely to keep access to their games? No way.

The main difference between EAA and PS+/XBLG is that the "free" games on EAA don't become unavailable to new subs once the month flips over. This makes the month long sub viable as a rental option, and makes it so EA is hitting three different types of customers.

1) There are those that just want cheap games to play (same as PS+/XBLG).
2) There are sports fanatics that want early access trials.
3) There are people who might want to try something new and figure $5 for a month-long rental is cheaper/easier than RedBox.

It's that third factor that really sets it apart from the others I think. For anyone with a huge backlog, the yearly sub probably isn't a big draw. But if there is a game you're curious about, you might drop five bones to give it a go. And a month is plenty of time to beat nearly any game out there, even playing casually.
 

jholmes

Member
Given the prices on PC there's just no way I'd consider this. No way you'd come ahead at the end unless you played everything, and I'd never be interested enough in what they're putting out there in this survey.

The indie talk almost makes me curious but why would I pay a monthly fee to rent games I could buy on sale for $2 each? Come on.
 

Syriel

Member
Explain the logic underlying that conclusion.

Legal terminology used when you "buy" a game on Steam.

It is correct in the technical sense of the term.

Most people would call the argument pedantic though, as most aren't referring to the technical definition when "buying" Steam games.
 

KKRT00

Member
Given the prices on PC there's just no way I'd consider this. No way you'd come ahead at the end unless you played everything, and I'd never be interested enough in what they're putting out there in this survey.

The indie talk almost makes me curious but why would I pay a monthly fee to rent games I could buy on sale for $2 each? Come on.

You dont need to subscribe for a year, You could just access it two/tree times a year.
 
EDIT: Nevermind. I don't want the thread to devolve into that argument again.

Hey, every time I pop a key into Steam for activation I do not read all the small print on there. Who knows what else it might say? I look at it like ownership and I think Steam looks at it that way.
 
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Deleted member 77995

Unconfirmed Member
It's the inevitable future. I imagine enthusiasts of physical hardware and games will one day be the minority, much like most music and movies/tv shows are consumed through streaming services today.

Regarding Steam ownership, for the few dollars I pay on average for each game I don't care if it's just a glorified rental or not.
 

Nzyme32

Member
Eh, you already technically are paying for a subscription on Steam.

I assuming what is meant is that you do not technically own your digital games, just a licence to have access to them in your library.

Hey, every time I pop a key into Steam for activation I do not read all the small print on there. Who knows what else it might say? I look at it like ownership and I think Steam looks at it that way.

He is referring to the "Steam Subscriber Agreement" that every Steam user agrees to, however that isn't remotely similar to an actual regularly renewed subscription service as we are talking about here. Steam uses this classification:

1. REGISTRATION AS A SUBSCRIBER; APPLICATION OF TERMS TO YOU; YOUR ACCOUNT

Steam is an online service offered by Valve.

You become a subscriber of Steam ("Subscriber") by installing the Steam client software and completing the Steam registration. This Agreement takes effect as soon as you indicate your acceptance of these terms.

You pay once and have that licence to the content in question. While they have many rights over the licence and content (as any digital distribution service has in their agreements), in 11 years I'm yet to lose a single game even when they are removed from the store for whatever reasons.

In a renewable subscription service, you lose access to content when you fail to renew the subscription, which requires a regular payment indefinitely for access.

They are two entirely different things, yet this is the continual argument given against Steam in particular for the idea of "ownership" of digital content. I'd rather base my idea of what I "own" on if I can actually keep them indefinitely. Legally, I'm sure I don't "own" my Steam library and they could pull everything whenever for whatever reason - yet they consistently haven't
 

Syriel

Member
They are two entirely different things, yet this is the continual argument given against Steam in particular for the idea of "ownership" of digital content. I'd rather base my idea of what I "own" on if I can actually keep them indefinitely. Legally, I'm sure I don't "own" my Steam library and they could pull everything whenever for whatever reason - yet they consistently haven't

Steam also refers to it as a subscription every time you redeem a key on the service. It says so right at the top of the receipt.

That said, you aren't quite correct regarding removal.

Steam has removed retail boxed keys that were purchased in the "wrong" region in the past. Though it hasn't repeated that incident since. And it certainly hasn't pulled anything like Sony did with PS Mobile games.
 

Joejoe123

Neo Member
If it were priced right e.g. Netflix and EA access on Xbone, I would sign up.

Currently the only reason to use origin is for the handful of EA game they refuse to put up on Steam, so it could be a great way for EA to distinguish Origin from Steam.
 

SURGEdude

Member
Steam also refers to it as a subscription every time you redeem a key on the service. It says so right at the top of the receipt.

That said, you aren't quite correct regarding removal.

Steam has removed retail boxed keys that were purchased in the "wrong" region in the past. Though it hasn't repeated that incident since. And it certainly hasn't pulled anything like Sony did with PS Mobile games.

Yeah but console and non-Steam games aren't really owned either. The media itself might be, but the content is only licensed to you.

OT: I proposed something similar (more like Games w/ Gold or PSN+ games though) but in relation to Steam a while back and was laughed at. Surprised in a few months so many people have come around. Especially since this seems fairly limited in scope compared to something somebody like Valve could likely put together.

Actually here's the thread.
 

bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
Legal terminology used when you "buy" a game on Steam.

It is correct in the technical sense of the term.

Most people would call the argument pedantic though, as most aren't referring to the technical definition when "buying" Steam games.
Most certainly would.
 

PaulLFC

Member
I would do this if the games were plentiful and current enough.

Liked the idea of GameTap but when I looked last the vast majority of games were shovelware.
 
Given how most big budget games are transient experiences that tend to overstay their welcome pretty early on, what amounts to being a rental service seems like a good idea. Also seems like an effective means to claw back some revenue normally lost to the modern practice of relatively quickly discounting games on digital stores, seemingly cutting their take to the bone with Steam sales and the like. If you want an experience on a more permanent basis without the recurring fee, you can always buy it straight out, perhaps encouraged by discounts that come as part of a subscription. Not a bad option where we sit in a world with very few new demos being made available compared to past years.
 

c0Zm1c

Member
Yeah but console and non-Steam games aren't really owned either. The media itself might be, but the content is only licensed to you.

OT: I proposed something similar (more like Games w/ Gold or PSN+ games though) but in relation to Steam a while back and was laughed at. Surprised in a few months so many people have come around. Especially since this seems fairly limited in scope compared to something somebody like Valve could likely put together.

Actually here's the thread.

At a glance it seems to be mostly different people that have replied in this and your thread, but I'm still firmly against any subscription service on Steam.
 

McHuj

Member
I'd only be interested in a subscription service if it provided new games. If I have to wait a 9-12 months for a game to be added, I'll just wait for a sale.
 

Won

Member
I'm not against such ideas, but I sure as hell don't want EA in charge of any market.

I also think all the options I looked at in the album are pretty poor. Not surprising since I personally don't consider that EA Access thing a good deal/service either.
 
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