evilromero
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Will be interesting to see the appeal of Pokken in the west. Smash Melee at launch window for the GCN was huge for the system.
I would also count on Assassin's Creed and possibly Call of Duty.
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WSJ: Nintendo Begins Distributing Software Kit for NX (Console + Handheld units)
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Will be interesting to see the appeal of Pokken in the west. Smash Melee at launch window for the GCN was huge for the system.
I would also count on Assassin's Creed and possibly Call of Duty.
Always-honest
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Thank the lord
I just want it to be at least close. Nintendo already won me back over with the Wii U, but it is pretty much about to be dead in the water. Ready for NX.
Its neither a official statement nor farfetched.
HUELEN10
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Really? So you really Expect the 5th PlayStation and 4th Xbox in like 3ish years?
Oh. Honestly.... I was kinda hoping for another long cycle.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Imagine a fzero or zelda game created for a console with the power of the ps4 or better.
my god....
my god....
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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*crosses fingers that Nintendo stays humble and makes it as indie friendly as the Wii U*
Sho_Nuff82
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It would be downright difficult to release a GPU in 2016 worse than a 7870 in performance, and the PS4/Xbone CPU is not really a powerhouse. Nintendo bent over backwards to get where they ended up with the Wii U; I don't see them making that mistake again. At minimum they could release something at PS4-level for $300 next fall, and they could shoot quite a bit higher for $399.
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Lol, the amount of baseless speculation is already at the max in here. ^^
Also, one year to release, i think even Nintendo doubts they will get any 3rd party exclusives ever again at all, so we're talking about ports/multi-releases. It should be possible to get something like that done in a year, especially if devs don't have to tend to some black magic vodoo because of some exotic hardware this time.
I do think that some chosen pubs and devs outside of Nintendo already have some early kits, i doubt SQEX would blow out on a possible DQ 11 NX version, if they didn't already have at least some insight on what to expect ... even if they tried to backpaddle.
Is it possible, that these dev-kits are near final ones and that (some) devs could already have something to work on right now?
Also, one year to release, i think even Nintendo doubts they will get any 3rd party exclusives ever again at all, so we're talking about ports/multi-releases. It should be possible to get something like that done in a year, especially if devs don't have to tend to some black magic vodoo because of some exotic hardware this time.
I do think that some chosen pubs and devs outside of Nintendo already have some early kits, i doubt SQEX would blow out on a possible DQ 11 NX version, if they didn't already have at least some insight on what to expect ... even if they tried to backpaddle.
Is it possible, that these dev-kits are near final ones and that (some) devs could already have something to work on right now?
FTFY
The Wii U can't survive past 2016, & the 3DS can only last until at least February 2017 at this rate.
Devilgunman
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One thing Nintendo need to address is to make their dev kit easier for devs. I remember hearing from Bombcast around WiiU launch that one of the complaint some 3rd party devs had for the WiiU was its dev kit complication, especially the integration of WiiU pad. If NX tech is too different from PS4 and XB1, Nintendo will have the same problem with 3rd party the same way they have always had.
andthebeatgoeson
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Cross gen?
DaSorcerer7
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Nah, that's waaayy too late.
So Nintendo is really serious about making another home console? Of course, everyone is excited now, then it will come out, NX versions of multiplat games (if they even get made) will sell horribly, those few 3rd party publishers that even decided to bother will stop bothering, and NX will again get anchored by one 1st party game every six months, fail miserably by 2018 and the search for a new gimmick will begin.
You'll have a Wii U Zelda port and no F-Zero.
So... to long to imagine.
As usual, I see a lot of "It'd better be more powerful and cheaper than consoles that released in 2013"
Folks need to remember that graphics tech that can be produced now is *not* significantly better in either power or cost than when the ps4 was made. We're still on the same production nodes for the most part.
Folks need to remember that graphics tech that can be produced now is *not* significantly better in either power or cost than when the ps4 was made. We're still on the same production nodes for the most part.
Petrae
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I can almost hear the sobs from the unsold WiiU consoles in retailers' stockrooms. They're never finding homes.
What will be interesting to me will be to observe how WiiU owners respond to the NX release. Will early adopters wait this time to see how/if NX sells and how Nintendo supports the platform, or will they buy early once again and show faith in the company?
I would think that Nintendo wouldn't be thrilled about this getting out just prior to the Q4 shopping rush. I'm not sure that consumers will want to drop $300 on a console whose time is seemingly almost up, which can be inferred from these developments.
I do buy in to the WSJ piece. I can see a scenario where NX launches in 13 months. I can see the Zelda game that was in development for WiiU taking the Twilight Princess route and getting released for NX first. At this point, Nintendo has nothing to lose; the WiiU isn't ever turning around and perhaps a new platform cleans the slate. I also don't consider third-party pubs/devs getting development kits at this point to be important in terms of a platform release date, since third-party support probably won't be all that significant... at least at the start. Nintendo's first-party developers have likely had dev kits for awhile now and NX games are moving right along.
What will be interesting to me will be to observe how WiiU owners respond to the NX release. Will early adopters wait this time to see how/if NX sells and how Nintendo supports the platform, or will they buy early once again and show faith in the company?
I would think that Nintendo wouldn't be thrilled about this getting out just prior to the Q4 shopping rush. I'm not sure that consumers will want to drop $300 on a console whose time is seemingly almost up, which can be inferred from these developments.
I do buy in to the WSJ piece. I can see a scenario where NX launches in 13 months. I can see the Zelda game that was in development for WiiU taking the Twilight Princess route and getting released for NX first. At this point, Nintendo has nothing to lose; the WiiU isn't ever turning around and perhaps a new platform cleans the slate. I also don't consider third-party pubs/devs getting development kits at this point to be important in terms of a platform release date, since third-party support probably won't be all that significant... at least at the start. Nintendo's first-party developers have likely had dev kits for awhile now and NX games are moving right along.
From the looks of it, the new gimmick appears to be a shared platform between the console & the handheld. Separate form factors, same architecture, same OS, different power levels, most of the same games.
Well they seem to be making at least a little more effort to court developers than they did last round. Only time will reveal just how much more seriously they're taking the importance of third parties this time.
The company has a new (interim) president; you do realize it is at least remotely possible they could explore new directions for things. If they do put leading edge hardware in the machine, that potentially changes things for your defeatist scenario.
The company has a new (interim) president; you do realize it is at least remotely possible they could explore new directions for things. If they do put leading edge hardware in the machine, that potentially changes things for your defeatist scenario.
OrbitalBeard
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You do realise Wii U has an average of 1 first party developed/paid for game per month since launch, right?
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It's not about what is the most ideal or effective first-party launch of software, but how the scheduling is falling. Aonuma's production group definitely shifted Zelda over to the NX, and Hayashida's production group has been working on the next 3D Mario for over 2 years. Then Miyamoto spilled the beans that Kimura's production group is close to finishing a Pikmin game.
I would be all over that for $300.
TheSlySoul
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Nintendo NX Portable - $200 for 16 GB, expandable via SD cards.
Nintendo NX Pro - $250 for 500 GB.
Ugh, we need a Direct so bad.
jufonuk
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I imagine a Super Wii-U ultra 3ds hybrid power on par or superseeding the ps4 Xbone
A handheld unit that can go toe to toe with iPhones in the resolution stakes ..
But one game can play on both units , better online .
Amiibo and touch screen (but multi touch )will make a cross over maybe motion controls
3D will be ditched , a bigger storage solution for both the deluxe model has the console and mobile device packaged in one . Buy a main console game the mobile unit Downloads a copy of it play at home on the go get home sync up play at home ..
Also full BC and region free
Nintendo will court indies and third party support this time not just lip service .. It's a return to the top do or die ...
Think about how much Nintendo can push the Wii-U how good some games look
Or it's just two wii-u's duct taped together and a mobile games pad
A handheld unit that can go toe to toe with iPhones in the resolution stakes ..
But one game can play on both units , better online .
Amiibo and touch screen (but multi touch )will make a cross over maybe motion controls
3D will be ditched , a bigger storage solution for both the deluxe model has the console and mobile device packaged in one . Buy a main console game the mobile unit Downloads a copy of it play at home on the go get home sync up play at home ..
Also full BC and region free
Nintendo will court indies and third party support this time not just lip service .. It's a return to the top do or die ...
Think about how much Nintendo can push the Wii-U how good some games look
Or it's just two wii-u's duct taped together and a mobile games pad
the mobile design world is full of GPUs that aren't as powerful as a 7870, and that's the more likely route they'll be going
it'll be more powerful than the wii u (clearly) but people really shouldn't be expecting that much. hell, given what they've done with the wii u i don't know why anyone really cares. it's not like they'll be landing a bunch of AAA multiplatform wins if they decided to compete on power.
For both form factors or just the console?
Well, that's not what the author of the article says on Twitter
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/654989741977239552
The article clearly implies that the NX console will at least have the same capabilities as the XB1/PS4.
WSJ said:
The stated reason they are putting industry-leading chips in the NX is because of criticism that Wii U's capabilities didn't match its competitors.
Kissenkopf
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For Third-Party-Ports? No, not really.
A late 2016 release seems likely. Especially when you think about what they announced for the Wii U for 2016...what is nearly nothing. No way the Wii U can live until 2017.
BennyBlanco
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You think they will abandon home console like how Sony abandoned the handheld market?
DragonSworne
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So what are some industry leading chips? This doesn't necessarily mean powerful, right? It sounds like Nintendo won't sink hundreds of millions into custom parts that are weak and use something off the shelf.
Iwata already said no hybrid before he died, so........yeah.
"powerful chips" is probably in comparison to current nintendo tech, and "matching competitors" could easily be referring to more standardized processor architecture and not power
Ban Puncher
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Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Well, that's not what the author of the article says on Twitter
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/654989741977239552
The article clearly implies that the NX console will at least have the same capabilities as the XB1/PS4.
The stated reason they are putting industry-leading chips in the NX is because of criticism that Wii U's capabilities didn't match its competitors.
Aww so sweet how you read what you want
the wiiu was meant to, and did, close the gap. you just have to look at whats available and the costing to see where they are likely to end up. check some of the speculation threads.Well, that's not what the author of the article says on Twitter
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/654989741977239552
The article clearly implies that the NX console will at least have the same capabilities as the XB1/PS4.
The stated reason they are putting industry-leading chips in the NX is because of criticism that Wii U's capabilities didn't match its competitors.
Super Gamecube time... hopefully.
Incitemaybe
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Of all things, I hope I can move my digital Wii U library directly over to the console NX.
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