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[MistressMoitie]

I'm digging through the new site too. It's a deep rabbit hole, way deeper than WarioWorld (at least the 2012-2014 version).

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And there are some less appealing security measures, in comparison to WarioWorld at least.

Can anyone with dev experience elaborate on the potential of what information is here? I'm curious to know what details the thumbnails hold. Are they indicative of what the console /handheld will look like?

 

[schaft0620]

I truly believe that Nintendo is holding some things back for the NX launch, Zelda, and whatever retro is working on,

 

[TheSlySoul]

Guessing for launch games:
1st:
- Zelda, DKCR3, Pikmin 4, Pokken

3rd:
- Batman, Just Dance, Guitar Hero, Monster Hunter X, Rayman maybe?

Combining the libraries will mean less droughts.

 

[Oersted]

I'm guessing this is where Zelda, Pikmin 4, and possibly SMT x FE (don't remember actual name) are going. Just slap on an updated Smash 4 and a Mario Kart and you could have a killer launch...

Genei Ibun Roku ♯FE gets released in December in Japan. Given the videos, it looks very much done.

 

[LordCiego]

They also said Nintendo would aim to put industry-leading chips in the NX devices, after criticism that the Wii U’s capabilities didn’t match those of competitors.

How many Gamecubes do you think it will be?

 

[Neoxon]

Multiple form factors confirmed.

 

[Asd202]

It's going to depend almost entirely on how Nintendo works with them, I'd wager. If they approach third party relations in a similar fashion to MS and Sony, NX should, at the very least, receive some decent launch support.

And will they? They haven't done it since N64.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

I would be satisfied with Vita power for the mobile device and PS4 power for the home console.

And this would of course cost $600, because the Vita and PS4 are made from OTS parts.

Methinks that Nintendo will sell them separately.

And will they? They haven't done it since N64.

The Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U all had vastly better 3rd party launch support since the N64. The GCN and Wii had flat out better 3rd party support overall.

 

[ZOONAMI]

How many Gamecubes do you think it will be?

12 game cubes duct taped together. Too large for Japan, so handheld will be 1 GameCube with a screen, that's why it has a handle.

 

[jimbobsmells]

Hnnnng cautiously optimistic clenching.

 

[HUELEN10]

The fact that Nintendo might have a console and its successor in the same gen worries me....

When was the last time that happened? Atari 2600 and its successor 5200 were both 2nd gen, and then got succeeded a gen later with the 7800. If there is a 2nd 8th gen Nintendo console, when does the 9th gen one get released?

 

[suddenlyissoon]

It had better be able to beat the PS4 by a significant margin or I won't pay it a bit of attention.

 

[Zombegoast]

They also said Nintendo would aim to put industry-leading chips in the NX devices, after criticism that the Wii U’s capabilities didn’t match those of competitors.

I don't see how this will solve the issues with 3rd party when they still support weaker systems and probably cost more money to make.

 

[PSOreo]

Interesting times ahead for Nintendo, the best thing they can do out of the gate is to not give it a name which has "Wii" in it. I'm curious to see how powerful it will be alongside the PS4/XBO and whether third party developers will actually get on board with it and stay on board. It'll surely need to have some similar architecture or else it'll be a lot of extra work for developers to have essentially three completely different versions of a console game upon release.

 

[Beren the Empty-Handed]

SMT x FE already has a release date for the end of this year in Japan.

Oh cool. With the way this year is going I guess I can expect to see that in NA next year.

I need Yoshi and Xenoblade bad...

 

[evilromero]

A year of development (especially for third-party agencies) is perfectly in line for launch-titles. This actually corroborates a Fall 2016 release date.

I'm curious what support is in place for getting the NX handheld/mobile apps ported for the NX console. It would be an incentive and increase the rate of software releases if developers could focus on making a game for say the handheld but then there's a group within Nintendo that assists with preparing the game for the console. Unless the tools are so streamlined that the developer could handle both on their own.

 

[Burger_Baron]

Nintendo would aim to put industry-leading chips in the NX devices

 

[OrbitalBeard]

The fact that Nintendo might have a console and its successor in the same gen worries me....

When was the last time that happened? Atari 2600 and its successor 5200 were both 2nd gen, and then got succeeded a gen later with the 7800. If there is a 2nd 8th gen Nintendo console, when does the 9th one get released?

Uh, this is Nintendo's 9th gen console, but NX is likely Nintendo moving towards a whole new approach to releasing systems.

 

[scitek]

The elephant in the room for those beginning to dream of PS4+ POWER is the goal of NX was to get the same games to be available on both the handheld and console variant. That means the handhelds power establishes the baseline, and the console can only pile resolution and maybe better AA on top. Unless Nintendo want to make 2 different versions of the same game which takes them back to square one.

Not all games would need to run on both platforms. They could easily just put an icon in the store showing which hardware is required.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

The fact that Nintendo might have a console and its successor in the same gen worries me....

When was the last time that happened? Atari 2600 and its successor 5200 were both 2nd gen, and then got succeeded a gen later with the 7800. If there is a 2nd 8th gen Nintendo console, when does the 9th gen one get released?

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

 

[Asd202]

The Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U all had vastly better 3rd party launch support since the N64. The GCN and Wii had flat out better 3rd party support overall.

Better than N64 but far worse than Playstation and later Xbox. It needs to be around the same level as those two.

 

[SlipperyMoose]

I need a Nintendo console but I'm not sure if I want to buy a Wii U on sale or wait for NX. I'll probably wait.

 

[D.Lo]

Goodbye Wii U

 

[10k]

Oh no, we're not making that mistake again.

Stay in here or any other news threads as they come.

Mistake? That was neogaf in its prime for me. I joined because I was lurking those threads

 

[mrlion]

The fact that Nintendo might have a console and its successor in the same gen worries me....

When was the last time that happened? Atari 2600 and its successor 5200 were both 2nd gen, and then got succeeded a gen later with the 7800. If there is a 2nd 8th gen Nintendo console, when does the 9th gen one get released?

What does that have to do with anything? There's no rulebook that says you can't have two consoles in one generation. Who came up with console generation anyway?

 

[ZOONAMI]

The fact that Nintendo might have a console and its successor in the same gen worries me....

When was the last time that happened? Atari 2600 and its successor 5200 were both 2nd gen, and then got succeeded a gen later with the 7800. If there is a 2nd 8th gen Nintendo console, when does the 9th gen one get released?

Wii U was released a year before xbone and ps4 and it's successor will release 1-2 years before the other next systems. NX is 9th gen, not two 8th gen systems.

 

[EhoaVash]

So ..it will have different forms nice. .hope there is a special handheld x console bundle you can get ... Buying it seperatly won't help the situation and buying it together will be too expensice

 

[SuperHans]

Just my guess on what the new platform is packing:

AMD x86 SoC with 4-6 gb or DDR3, same CPU as PS4 and Xbox. GPU will be slightly behind or matching Xbox One in computational performance.

Wiimote will have custom Qualcomm SoC (Snapdragon 808 + Adreno 420). Maybe Samsung Exynos?!

Either way this console will make it possible for game developers to port their titles onto the Nintendo platform without having to make huge sacrifices.

It'll probably use Puma+ cores rather than Jaguar one. Which according to AMD have 50% more frequency at half the TDP.

For the GPU side it'll probably use the latest GCN 1.2 found in the R9 285. Which is again more efficient.

So Nintendo should be able to get some thing around PS4/XBone level but with less TDP. But knowing Nintendo they might skimp to keep price low. Or they might go with some weird ARM setup.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Industry-leading to me probably means Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU. Wonder if they will go with Tegra for the portable SKU? I can dream.

 

[jax]

So since 3DS will be replaced next year, what was the point of the 'New 3DS'?

Also Amiibo and c-stick support, and knowing Nintendo handheld NX probably won't have more than 4 games until a year after its released.

 

[evilromero]

And this would of course cost $600, because the Vita and PS4 are made from OTS parts.

Methinks that Nintendo will sell them separately.



The Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U all had vastly better 3rd party launch support since the N64. The GCN and Wii had flat out better 3rd party support overall.

People forget what an improvement the GCN was over the N64 in terms of third party support. The system got pretty much every multiplatform game with only a few exceptions (GTA being a big one).

 

[ngower]

I remain disinterested in speculation and rumors, but this seems to be the most credible bit of information yet.

I do hope that it's backwards compatible, if not for 3DS and Wii U AT LEAST for one of them.

 

[HUELEN10]

Uh, this is Nintendo's 9th gen console, but NX is likely Nintendo moving towards a whole new approach to releasing systems.

How do we know that? The 5200 was the 2600's successor and it was still in the same gen.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

No, it's a genuine concern. He Wii u's probable short life combined with early release this gen by a year kinda fucked up the pace.

 

[matmanx1]

It's happening? It's happening!

 

[SmokedMeat]

I can't believe people are still clinging to the tired launch with a new Zelda/Mario.

This thing needs to launch with Splatoon more than any of those old ips. While it's too soon for a sequel, I think an enhanced version with exclusive new content and a higher player count would be great.

If they bundle a handheld and console together as one package then there's no doubt in my mind it'll be the usual underpowered Nintendo system.
If they sell seperately, then there's a chance for something good. Especially if they wise up and target a $349-$399 price point on the console.

Will the online still be free?
Will third parties bother to show up?
Have consumers written off Nintendo?

It's going to be interesting to watch. Personally I'm going to sit back and watch from the fence. My expectations are low, and I don't feel like jumping in on another system with poor support and a short lifespan.

 

[ironcreed]

Sounds promising. I loved the Wii U, but bailed because of this new system being right around the corner. I just may be there at launch this time, if it impresses me enough.

 

[BokehKing]

I just want a console and a game pad, I can do with out the wii-u type game pad again, I hated holding that thing

Give me a new Super Nintendo


Needs to launch with a Mario game

A Zelda and Metroid game also that same year

Enough is enough

 

[TheSlySoul]

No, it's a genuine concern. He Wii u's probable short life combined with early release this gen by a year kinda fucked up the pace.

GBA had a 4 year cycle before being replaced by DS. The 7th Gen was odd, but we are seeing a return of the 4-5 year life cycle.

 

[Pez]

Next June should be interesting.

Plan for a 2016 launch.

 

[aeolist]

i would just like to point out that "industry-leading chips" probably means a more standard architecture and process node (say 14nm samsung/tsmc wafers of ARM CPUs with ~opengl es 3.0 level GPUs integrated) and not high-power draw chips designed to compete with sony and microsoft

 

[NeonZ]

The fact that there seems to be a single devkit for both home and portable units really should be warning signs if people are expecting some PS4+ device. "Industry leading chips" might just mean that the architecture is modern, without being tied to the GC/Wii, not somehow indicating that it has raw power surpassing the PS4.

But it's also counter to what Nintendo have said about the NX. It's more likely to be a WSJ misunderstanding.

Until Nintendo say otherwise, it's better to believe what they're saying rather than what another company says.

Or they might be able to interact with each other, like using the portable NX as a controller, but the actual skus might be sold separately. Each system will be able to be used independently, after all.

The fact that it references "two units" doesn't mean they're bundled together (well, there might be a sku that bundles them, but it obviously won't be the only one). They even talk about there possibly being more than one portable unit.

 

[Kandinsky]

This is making me super excited about the handheld version, even if they go cheap (they will) the jump from 3DS will still be massive@540p, cant wait.

Console version will still lag behind tho, so idc.

 

[Akiller]

I can see "industry-leading chips" reaching "Inifinite Cloud Power" level of memeness.

 

[Kill3r7]

I can't believe people are still clinging to the tired launch with a new Zelda/Mario.

This thing needs to launch with Splatoon more than any of those old ips. While it's too soon for a sequel, I think an enhanced version with exclusive new content and a higher player count would be great.

If they bundle a handheld and console together as one package then there's no doubt in my mind it'll be the usual underpowered Nintendo system.
If they sell seperately, then there's a chance for something good. Especially if they wise up and target a $349-$399 price point on the console.

Will the online still be free?
Will third parties bother to show up?
Have consumers written off Nintendo?

It's going to be interesting to watch. Personally I'm going to sit back and watch from the fence. My expectations are low, and I don't feel like jumping in on another system with poor support and a short lifespan.

Nailed it.

 

[DaSorcerer7]

Next E3 is going to be somethin else!

 

[pizzacat]

I was legit waiting for a cat for at least 2 minutes

 

[OrbitalBeard]

How do we know that? The 5200 was the 2600's successor and it was still in the same gen.


No, it's a genuine concern. He Wii u's probable short life combined with early release this gen by a year kinda fucked up the pace.

I genuinely don't know how to respond to this. 5200 came out five years after the 2600. Who on earth cares what "generation" it was in, which, in reality, doesn't mean anything? NX will be the start of Nintendo's next generation of game devices, regardless of where the rest of the industry is currently at.

Also, a four year life for Wii U wouldn't really be that short, all things considered.

 

[jax]

Every Nintendo console since the Wii/DS era has featured backwards compatibility. I wouldn't stress about Wii U support.

3DS support may not happen though, so keep your n3DS around too.

 

[Chase17]

I guess I'm one of the few who doesn't mind a console that is underpowered. I thought games like 3d world and Mario Kart 8 looked fantastic.

 

[TheSlySoul]

This is making me super excited about the handheld version, even if they go cheap (they will) the jump from 3DS will still be massive@540p, cant wait.

Console version will still lag behind tho, so idc.

If they go with tablet parts, 720p should be a big leap from 3DS quality. The rumors that the portable version matching Wii U specs is making me excited.