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[PROJECTZERO]

Did QD announce a release date for Heavy Rain on PS4?

 

[Afrocious]

that's detroit?

wtf

must be after everything's gentrified or something

 

[Roufianos]

Haha some of those lines are cringey and cliched as hell.

Still I enjoyed Heavy Rain so I have high hopes for this.

 

[dragonbane]

Interesting, when she is speaking to us, the light circle is off, when she turns and walks away, the circle is on.

Oh wow nice detail. Glad you spotted that

The music in this trailer. so good.

I NEED IT SO BAD. Hopefully thats from the actual composer already.

Did the new writers have no input on the game's name?

I would assume Sony's marketing has the most input there But I dont mind the title tbh

 

[charsace]

Looks good, but I hope Cage isn't writing it.

 

[Legato.Reborn-]

My wife loved Heavy Rain, I'm sure we'll be getting this.

 

[djtiesto]

Really hope they find a way to fit some classic Detroit techno onto the soundtrack.

 

[Acquiescence]

Chances of Saddam Hussein being the final boss?

 

[dragonbane]

Scott Shelby at 1:51?!

I really wanted to get a Heavy Rain vibe, but instead I got a Beyond vibe. Not the best start

Sure looks like him. I actually got a HR vibe more than anything else from this. Focus went back to a single city, which allows them to create a much more intense and persistent atmosphere. Loads of focus on rain. No Hollywood actors on the cover or talked about. Her dialogue implying choice will be a major focus again. Also hinting at multiple playable characters.
And then they add seemingly bigger areas to it and bring the HR crowd back massively improved.

so why wouldn't these robots be treated like machines?

Well she doesnt know that the world was like this when she left the factory. Since she feels like a human, this aspect is incredibly unsettling to her.

 

[daycru]

Emotions

 

[Mifune]

Watched the trailer about five times now and I still love it. Great music. Great editing. I'm totally onboard.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

The music in this trailer. so good.

The holy triumvirate of good videogame trailer music was delivered at PGS this week: new SF5 trailer, this and Gran Turismo: Sport all had boss music.

 

[thenexus6]

I HATED that girl in the Following, super annoying character.

 

[Get_craycray]

Chances of Saddam Hussein being the final boss?

Dunno about that but...

 

[Bunta]

This really does feel like the show Humans so far, though.

 

[Crossing Eden]

What world did I land in where videogame writing and titles are so great and meaningful a lot of you have become negative about this game already?

Did it occur to you that Detriot--the city and its history, its inhabitants and their culture--may play a big part in the story of the game?

Considering that Indigo, Heavy Rain, and especially Beyond two Souls all veer in the bad spectrum of video game writing despite that being the supposed highlight since let's face it, there is quite little traditional gameplay, even to the point where at certain moments the story will progress regardless of whether you hit the inputs, it is perfectly normal for people to be negative about the story. It's David Cage, one of the lines in the original tech demo was that she's perfectly usable as a sexual companion, there is a 99.9% chance that there will be a scene that brings this up, casual racism, and people generally not acting or talking like actual people despite looking like people. And considering how little David Cage has demonstrated an understanding of other cities, as well as using borderline caricatures as villains, (the black man from heavy rain for instance), and again, casual racism, (If you speak super slowly to foreign people they will most certainly understand you), I don't expect him to handle a setting like Detroit with any sort of subtlety, nuance, and/or tact.

 

[dragonbane]

And considering how little David Cage has demonstrated an understanding of other cities, as well as using borderline caricatures as villains, (the black man from heavy rain for instance), and again, casual racism, (If you speak super slowly to foreign people they will most certainly understand you), I don't expect him to handle a setting like Detroit with any sort of subtlety, nuance, and/or tact.

I'm sure American writers can though? Considering they do the majority of writing on this one.

Did QD announce a release date for Heavy Rain on PS4?

Not yet, but will happen soon.

that's detroit?

wtf

must be after everything's gentrified or something

I heard the metropolitan area can be pretty white. Plus there are plenty of black people in the trailer.

Beyond lost a lot of impact by not playing out in chronological order.

Seeing the character actually grow gradually into her adult self would've been so much better.

Cage was going for a twist in presentation ,but it diluted his work at the end.

For example,The homeless scene would've been so much more powerful if you had known all the character's history up to that point.

Yeah Im happy he wont repeat that structure again. It did hurt more than it helped.

 

[Crossing Eden]

I'm sure American writers can though? Considering they do the majority of writing on this one.

Are any of the american writers actually from Detroit? Plus although David Cage is not the only writer, you'd never know that from this trailer. It still has all the things that make a david cage game, the stilted dialogue, the message being way too obvious, the slow way that the protagonist talks etc.

 

[dragonbane]

Are any of the american writers actually from Detroit? Plus although David Cage is not the only writer, you'd never know that from this trailer. It still has all the things that make a david cage game, the stilted dialogue, the message being way too obvious, the slow way that the protagonist talks etc.

I'm sure you can still set a fictional work in a city you dont live in and bridge the difference with research and common knowledge? I have no clue if any of the writers lived in Detroit once, at least right now one lives in Texas and the other in Ontario, Canada. I know for a fact though that they did do a lot of research into the city for quite a while.

The dialogue in this trailer seems pretty Cagey, which probably means it is. I mean it makes sense that a voice over exclusively for a trailer wouldnt have been written in advance by any of the writers. So Cage probably decided to do it himself, as its gotta be fairly recent. We havent heard any dialogue from the real game yet.

Of course maybe I'm wrong and this dialog was written by an American writer. After all many Americans seem to think LiS was written by French people resulting in awkward dialog, when it was written and voice recorded entirely by American peeps.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

This looks great to me. Can't wait.

 

[dragonbane]

Just found out the freaking CG Supervisor from Avatar is working on this. Goddamn its going to look insane when it comes out. They also massively improved their camera direction, I assume the virtual camera studio they created helps with that.

 

[hesido]

I didn't even notice this before, but that would explain how she can blend in and get in the "human section" in the metro (in the trailer), even though some people were staring at her (probably because they recognize the look of the droid).

C'mon guys, that was the first thing I looked for, the circle. I thought she hid it with the hair on the other side for a while.

 

[TheSpaceBetween]

Looks like a Quantic Dream game alright. Terrible music and voice acting failed to elicit any emotion in me.

 

[Wagram]

I wonder if they're using the same composer that they did for Beyond Two Souls. That OST was excellent in my opinion.

Terrible music and voice acting failed to elicit any emotion in me.

lol k.

 

[Elitist1945]

I wonder if they're using the same composer that they did for Beyond Two Souls. That OST was excellent in my opinion.

Lorne Balfe, and I believe Hans Zimmer helped out too. I would welcome their return.

 

[Twookie]

Have you guys seen the gamersyde version of the trailer?

good lord this game looks fucking fantastic

 

[dragonbane]

Looks like a Quantic Dream game alright. Terrible music and voice acting failed to elicit any emotion in me.

Bait not taken.

Lorne Balfe, and I believe Hans Zimmer helped out too. I would welcome their return.

Balfe was the main composer. He did a great job imo.

Have you guys seen the gamersyde version of the trailer?

good lord this game looks fucking fantastic

Yup it does. No wonder when they have the freaking CG Lead from Avatar on it lol

 

[Falchion]

I'm excited for this especially since I saw Ex Machina and it deals with this a tiny bit.

 

[Crossing Eden]

I'm sure you can still set a fictional work in a city you dont live in and bridge the difference with research and common knowledge? I have no clue if any of the writers lived in Detroit once, at least right now one lives in Texas and the other in Ontario, Canada. I know for a fact though that they did do a lot of research into the city for quite a while.

The dialogue in this trailer seems pretty Cagey, which probably means it is. I mean it makes sense that a voice over exclusively for a trailer wouldnt have been written in advance by any of the writers. So Cage probably decided to do it himself, as its gotta be fairly recent. We havent heard any dialogue from the real game yet.

Of course maybe I'm wrong and this dialog was written by an American writer. After all many Americans seem to think LiS was written by French people resulting in awkward dialog, when it was written and voice recorded entirely by American peeps.

I sincerely hope you're right. I hope as more info and demos come out they prove me wrong.

Spoiler

seriously tho, no shower scenes or sex scenes pls, they're so awkward.

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

It's literally the face of the actress that plays Kara.

Emma from The Following

Thank you for helping me rember

 

[Kinyou]

I sincerely hope you're right. I hope as more info and demos come out they prove me wrong.

Spoiler

seriously tho, no shower scenes or sex scenes pls, they're so awkward.

The shower scenes I sort of get. Cage wants you to play through someone's daily routine, which in the best case humanises the character. I think that worked great at the opening of Heavy Rain. Other times it falls flat.

 

[dragonbane]

I sincerely hope you're right. I hope as more info and demos come out they prove me wrong.

Spoiler

seriously tho, no shower scenes or sex scenes pls, they're so awkward.

I'm pretty confident right now. If it ends up being dull than at the very least it should look absolutely excellent, considering the talent from games and films who work on this lol
If the areas are even half as open as in the trailer and have that crowd populating it it sure will be a sight to behold and play.

 

[Freeman]

I wish QD game were episodic.

I sincerely hope you're right. I hope as more info and demos come out they prove me wrong.

Spoiler

seriously tho, no shower scenes or sex scenes pls, they're so awkward.

I say keep them.

 

[yanipheonu]

This was just posted on the PlayStation YouTube site.

Detroit - David Cage on Quantic Dream's new PS4 exclusive
https://youtu.be/AoZ76eh2ky0

"We didn't want it to be sci-fi". Proceeds to talk about his game in a futuristic Detorit with Androids using "existing technology".
I get what he's maybe trying to say, he wants it to me more down to earth than Alien Kung Fu fights, but it's still Science FIction.
We can only hope this is just a language barrier or something....

...I'm genuinely worried he doesn't know what Sci Fi is.

Still unsure why Detroit would be the center for robotics, current explanation seems to be "because industry and creative people live there". Actually a bit heartfelt, could get on board if they followed that thread. But he does realize they're mostly famous for cars right? Would have thought something like Silicon Valley was the obvious choice.
But we'll see, maybe the writers have a good grasp on the city, it'd be disasterious to name somethign after a specific place, then botch your representation.

 

[Lord Error]

Would have thought something like Silicon Valley was the obvious choice

That would be such a boring choice compared to this though.

 

[Sagroth]

QD is kinda hit or miss for me, but I LOVE the premise.

 

[GavinGT]

All the other URLs were taken so we had to go with clownpenis.fart.

 

[Skux]

Game should have been called "Human Condition" or something.

Calling it "Detroit" is meaningless when no one associates the city with cybernetic development and manufacturing.

 

[Inuhanyou]

Game should have been called "Human Condition" or something.

Calling it "Detroit" is meaningless when no one associates the city with cybernetic development and manufacturing.

Jensen would have a word with you

 

[Americanmushroom]

"We didn't want it to be sci-fi". Proceeds to talk about his game in a futuristic Detorit with Androids using "existing technology".
I get what he's maybe trying to say, he wants it to me more down to earth than Alien Kung Fu fights, but it's still Science FIction.
We can only hope this is just a language barrier or something....

...I'm genuinely worried he doesn't know what Sci Fi is.

Still unsure why Detroit would be the center for robotics, current explanation seems to be "because industry and creative people live there". Actually a bit heartfelt, could get on board if they followed that thread. But he does realize they're mostly famous for cars right? Would have thought something like Silicon Valley was the obvious choice.
But we'll see, maybe the writers have a good grasp on the city, it'd be disasterious to name somethign after a specific place, then botch your representation.

Euh, he explained that all the technology you can see in the game is based on actual stuff that scientist are working on in labs right now. Of course far into the future but i think he means that theres no supernatural or invented stuff in the game.

 

[Brad Grenz]

Yeah, that's how I see them as well; a light drama with some thrills that entertains me, not something that's supposed to be as thought-provoking as the likes of TLOU and SOMA.

People have a bad habit of misrepresenting Cage's intentions. He doesn't claim to be making great works of literature. He writes pulpy genre stories about serial killers, ghosts, robots, etc. His defining interest is in the art and technology behind depicting emotions in games including the use of performance capture, animation and rendering technology to enable a greater range than possible before. Clearly that has been twisted into this cartoonish accusation that he thinks he's James Joyce, or whatever.

Beyond lost a lot of impact by not playing out in chronological order.

Seeing the character actually grow gradually into her adult self would've been so much better.

Cage was going for a twist in presentation ,but it diluted his work at the end.

For example,The homeless scene would've been so much more powerful if you had known all the character's history up to that point.

I disagree. The game felt highly composed to me. Not understanding how she ended up homeless is an important part of how that section hits you as a player. The game slowly unveils itself layering in more understanding to create an effect that a simple chronological order would utterly decimate.

I didn't even notice this before, but that would explain how she can blend in and get in the "human section" in the metro (in the trailer), even though some people were staring at her (probably because they recognize the look of the droid).

The people staring at her are all droids themselves. The implication (to me, anyway), is that there are other "feeling" androids in the world who were not so lucky to escape the life of servitude the way she did.

 

[Abstruse Moose]

So this runs on a PS4 with this visual fidelity at that smooth frame rate? Seems too good to be true. Very impressive if it looks like that at launch.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Emma from The Following

Thank you for helping me rember

I turned on Encore on Monday and that was literally the scene in Robocop.

 

[dragonbane]

Wow, I think I just spotted an Android cop:

Highly interesting. Trailer has insane levels of details to it.

 

[sn00zer]

that's detroit?

wtf

must be after everything's gentrified or something

Lol absolutely.

Im hoping (hoping) that the gentrification is actually part of the story as it would make sense if Detroit did become a large producer of androids in 20XX.

What it more than likely is is Detroit seen through the lens of a french company that visited Detroit for research and ignored the actually living there part. Or Detroit is a "cool setting for this story" rather than an actual player in the story.

 

[sn00zer]

Im also wondering if the company looked at the metro Detroit statistics for racial makeup of Detroit. Which would show radically different statistics compared to the downtown and actual city area.

 

[Crossing Eden]

The shower scenes I sort of get. Cage wants you to play through someone's daily routine, which in the best case humanises the character. I think that worked great at the opening of Heavy Rain. Other times it falls flat.

It worked in heavy rain since you could also do it with a male character so it felt a shit ton less like creepy voyeurism.

I'm pretty confident right now. If it ends up being dull than at the very least it should look absolutely excellent, considering the talent from games and films who work on this lol
If the areas are even half as open as in the trailer and have that crowd populating it it sure will be a sight to behold and play.

The looks are the thing i'm least worried about.

 

[dragonbane]

The looks are the thing i'm least worried about.

While I do like their games, I'm also open to play a game just for its graphics and explore some pretty sets hehe. Did that for Unity The Order looked so dull however it couldn't even convince me to play it on that aspect lol

It worked in heavy rain since you could also do it with a male character so it felt a shit ton less like creepy voyeurism.

Which is kinda weird actually. If it were all dudes showering no one would complain. And you know Cage would do that if it were just male protagonists.

 

[RedAssedApe]

I HATED that girl in the Following, super annoying character.

lol i hope she's much better in this

 

[N.Domixis]

Whooo, all those clichéd lines were to cringey. Why do they have to talk like that? lol hopefully it's like heavy rain. Didn't like beyond 2 souls