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Young Greek women selling sex for the price of a sandwich (or not, see #245)

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Ganhyun

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Everyone can stop complaining about the first reply as the poster is banned.

On topic, truly sad whats going on in Greece.
 

IISANDERII

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Greek here. Yes and no. The article talks about sex workers so I wouldn't characterize it as a widespread phenomenon (as in, non sex workers aren't roaming the streets offering sex for sandwiches) but the standard of living has taken a nosedive, especially in big cities where massive unemployment rates have driven a lot of people to poverty and homelessness. The situation is dire, the economy is dead and there is no end in sight to the suffering.

Everyone except a small number of wealthy elites is struggling to make ends meet and if the government goes through with its plan to allow the foreclosure of families' main residences I won't be surprised to see riots in the streets. Owning a home is condidered extremely important in Greece.
I laughed at first post but the situation sounds really awful.

"The study showed that most of the Greek women just coming into prostitution are between the ages of 17 and 20.
The study comes after a shocking report last month of an unemployed Greek mother pimping her 12-year-old daughter to a priest and a retired man for money. The mother, 44, was sentenced to 33 years in prison and fined 100,000 euros ($106,153), the paper said."

This is so fucking sad. Here in Canada girls that 17-20[probably all through 20's] are so full of hope, they'll reject rich dudes just on principle. Fuck those pieces of corrupt shit who ruined the country. Fuck Alan Greenspan too, hard.
 

Two Words

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I'm somewhat against legalizing prostitution, because in most cases it is exploitative. Most women would not sell intimacy and their bodies to a bunch of unknown people unless they absolutely have to.

When you do it in order to survive, then it is almost at the level of sexual slavery. We should live in a society where women don't have to reduce themselves to this fucking nonsense.
Prostitution is exploitative when it is illegal because they have to depend on exploitative pimps for work. Legalizing it would allow for legit and regulated businesses around it.
 

GAMEPROFF

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Thats fucking disgusting
 
Okay that first post fucking sucks. This article is about women too poor, too desperate and too disenfranchised to feel like they have any other choice.

But isn't that the overwhelming majority of acts of prostitution in the world?

Sure it might be legalized here and there but what percentage of people doing that are financially secure outside of that vocation just doing it because it's their passion?

Thats fucking disgusting

Agreed. But let's not act like people preying on the socio-economic desperation of sex workers is a new thing. Kinda goes with the territory.
 
Considering that the article in question is, to say the lest, exaggeration, I think it's really unfair that the guy with the first reply got banned. Sure his reply was kind of ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as the article.
 

daveo42

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It is legal (18+), but completely depressing that women are starting to sell themselves just to afford some small bit of food. It can also lead to a larger amount of unwanted pregnancies and a spike in STDs as more people flock to prostitution as prices fall.

The study comes after a shocking report last month of an unemployed Greek mother pimping her 12-year-old daughter to a priest and a retired man for money.

And this is even worse. Absolutely disgusting.
 

Machina

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Polarizing first post is polarizing. I know he was joking but praying on the desperation of starving, otherwise perfectly normal and respectable people is a bit far.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Why do people continue to dance on first poster's grave when it is obvious to everyone that he just didn't read the OP. He didn't make an inappropriate joke intentionally. His mistake was just that he did not read the OP—which, lets be real, is very common—in order to be the first to post the meme. Which is a far lesser offense than to purposefully make fun of struggling people and prostitution in Greece.

Considering that the article in question is, to say the lest, exaggeration, I think it's really unfair that the guy with the first reply got banned. Sure his reply was kind of ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as the article.

What makes you say that it is exaggerated? The information is apparently based on an extensive study.
 

Tagyhag

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Fuck me, I didn't know things were that bad in Greece, shows how ignorant I am.

Also, I KNEW someone was going to fumble their way into the thread to post the airplane pic after just reading the title and having it backfire on them.

The race for a witty first post continues to be a dangerous one.
 

LJ11

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Feel free to source this.

Considering the balance of payment issues, and how unemployment had to be exported from one country(s) to the other(s), no source necessary.

Edit: Honestly, I'm not being dismissive, I can get you articles on how the Greeks fudged numbers, Euro officials brought it to their attention, but Europe never did anything about it. But what's the point, narrative is what it is and you're running with it.
 

IISANDERII

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Yeah I can see why you say that.
Oh I meant fuck Greenspan because he was head of the Federal Reserve and was hugely responsible for opening the floodgates to deregulation. Thankfully our Prime Minister of the time, Paul Martin, told him to eat a dick or else Canada might have found itself in similar situation.
 
What makes you say that it is exaggerated? The information is apparently based on an extensive study.

Just read the article. Their sourcing for the headline is "he said". It's quite obvious that headline is simply sensationalizing this topic.

When the economic crisis began in Greece, the going rate for sex with a prostitute was 50 euros ($53), the London newspaper quoted Laxos as saying. Now, it’s fallen to as low as two euros ($2.12) for a 30-minute session.

Laxos said the some 400 such desperate cases he found may be “nominal compared with the thousands of other sex workers operating nationwide"
 

Aureon

Please do not let me serve on a jury. I am actually a crazy person.
One is a consequence of the other, ultimate blame for this lies with Greece.

... What.
Victim blaming, anyone?
The euro caused greece's trade deficit - a trade deficit against the euro's own rules, willingly ignored by those who benefited from it.
And which ultimately caused the crisis, triggered by a shadow banking collapse in the USA.

... fault lies on a lot of head before it does on greece's government, let alone greece's population.
 

Anfang

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... What.
Victim blaming, anyone?
The euro caused greece's trade deficit - a trade deficit against the euro's own rules, willingly ignored by those who benefited from it.
And which ultimately caused the crisis, triggered by a shadow banking collapse in the USA.

... fault lies on a lot of head before it does on greece's government, let alone greece's population.

Remind me again, wasnt it greece who altered its own books to get into the Euro in the first place?
 
Street prostitution has always been incredibly cheap. Not surprised that the degradation of the economical environment leads to this horrific situation.

This is the consequence of the (first) world biggest problem. Income inequality , which is a direct consequence of bad wealth distribution . And most people are afraid to tackle this problem , because everyone wants to make more than the guy next to him.

We , sadly , live a horrific world. We terrorize ourselves in the way our society is built and evolved (in a liberalist-capitalist force power). And we , shamefully , put it all under the rug. As long as we are not part of the problem , it's not a issue.
 
From what I gathered from the community of the site it looks like the standard price for an escort is about 50-100 euros per hour and about 20 euros for a 45 minute session for less good-looking women in the sex chambers of a poor district.

I'm sure you enjoyed doing this research. :)

But the article itself is pure sensationalism and it sucks that most people in this thread can't see past that first post which is way less offensive than this misleading article.
 

Guileless

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We , sadly , live a horrific world. We terrorize ourselves in the way our society is built and evolved (in a liberalist-capitalist force power).

The EU should airdrop pamphlets explaining this on Syria, and maybe they will stay put.
 

tokkun

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... What.
Victim blaming, anyone?
The euro caused greece's trade deficit - a trade deficit against the euro's own rules, willingly ignored by those who benefited from it.
And which ultimately caused the crisis, triggered by a shadow banking collapse in the USA.

... fault lies on a lot of head before it does on greece's government, let alone greece's population.

The old narrative was that the Greeks were lazy and didn't want to pay their taxes.

The new narrative is that the hapless and naive Greeks were incapable of understanding that the clever Germans were tricking them. Personally it seems extremely paternalistic and condescending.

I think that if you want to treat the Greeks like adults, you have to lay some of the blame at the feet of their government. They borrowed too heavily with access to cheap capital and put too much of the money toward social services and not enough toward economic modernization.
 
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