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[guek]

I think the issue is that Stark seems oddly upset that Cap would choose his best friend over him. It's not like Stark is in life threatening danger so what's Cap's motivation for picking Stark?

I dunno, it's impossible to say without seeing the movie. When he says that line though, it's after he gets that shiner over his eye. Chances are Steve is the one that punched him.

In any case, the situation dissolves into violence which is likely more than Tony expected. Tony is just pointing out how their friendship didn't seem to factor at all to Steve.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Calling it now movie ends with Cap dying and Tony admitting full responsibility and accountability for Sokovia and going to jail.

Both major players out of comission until IW.

 

[- J - D -]

We have to assume their relationship surpassed Steve and Bucky's offscreen?

Never said anything about surpassing Steve and Bucky's, but it's not like it'd be a reach to say that Tony and Steve are indeed friends.

 

[IconGrist]

I dunno, it's impossible to say without seeing the movie. When he says that line though, it's after he gets that shiner over his eye. Chances are Steve is the one that punched him.

In any case, the situation dissolves into violence which is likely more than Tony expected. Tony is just pointing out how their friendship didn't seem to factor at all to Steve.

Well really we have no idea if Stark is even talking to Cap. We all know how trailers like to jumble dialogue lines around.

 

[Toxi]

Calling it now movie ends with Cap dying and Tony admitting full responsibility and accountability for Sokovia and going to jail.

Both major players out of comission until IW.

That seems rather dark for an ending.

...

I kinda like it.

 

[Dai101]

Well really we have no idea if Stark is even talking to Cap. We all know how trailers like to jumble dialogue lines around.

Exactly.

Remember kids to never trust a trailer.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

That seems rather dark for an ending.

...

I kinda like it.

No Whedonesque banter about Thor's hammer in this one. However they end, it's going to be bittersweet.

 

[Broken Joystick]

Their friendship is just something you have to assume develops offscreen between the movies.

I don't think they're necessarily friends, but there's no doubt that they respect one another.

 

[Blader]

We have to assume their relationship surpassed Steve and Bucky's offscreen?

Considering the whole crux of the conflict is that Steve values his friendship with Bucky over Tony, I'd say no.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Their friendship is just something you have to assume develops offscreen between the movies.

lol

This is not how effective stories are made. Not saying, at all, that Civil War won't be effective (I'm hyped as fuck), but "this moment is important because of an assumed relationship that is built off-screen" is not how good stories are told.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Considering the whole crux of the conflict is that Steve values his friendship with Bucky over Tony, I'd say no.

Also

Y'know

Bucky shot Tony's Dad in the face

 

[- J - D -]

Hearing Cap's response to that would be interesting. I imagine Cap would try to be as polite as possible, like when choosing one friend to be best man over another.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I assumed they were friends because of the Avengers incident with the Helicarrier.

Just bull-headed stubborn at-each-others-throats friends.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

We've got to use our imaginations and assume there were lots of Avengers operations that they couldn't afford to pay Robert Downey Jr for.

...Do you think the Hulkbuster armour is roomy enough for two people to spoon inside?

 

[Broken Joystick]

Also

Y'know

Bucky shot Tony's Dad in the face

hey hey hey

it was a car crash

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

hey hey hey

it was a car crash

Awkward Curb Your Enthusiasm moment between Tony and Bucky incoming.

"I mean like... I was brainwashed..."

"Not an excuse"

"... Didn't you create a genocidal robot when you got brainwashed?"

"... Fuck off."

 

[Timbuktu]

I wonder if he genuinely believes that he was his friend. Considering how he treats James it would make sense.

It's not like Tony actually has friends, so it's more wishful thinking really. Don't you see people assume friendship with people they work with? The Cap was probably the onlh too polite to not tell him to fuck off before.

 

[TEJ]

Tony Stark in the mcu makes jokes towards CA but he does that towards a lot of people he seems to like. While not as strong a friendship as cap and bucky they do seem to have a mutual respect towards one another ever since they worked together on keeping the helicarrier from going down.

He was also the one to tell captain america to give the orders on how to fight the chitari, and not just charge on off like earlier in the film when they captured loki. Maybe i'm reaching here but he does seem to trust cap'n at that point in the movie in spite of the jokes towards him.

And most likely tony stark of the mcu does sincerely view captain america as a friend. We haven't seen much of them together doing buddy things but like I said, his trust and respect for steve is enough for me to call it a friendship.

 

[LucidMomentum]

And most likely tony stark of the mcu does sincerely view captain america as a friend. We haven't seen much of them together doing buddy things but like I said, his trust and respect for steve is enough for me to call it a friendship.

The end of Age of Ultron has Tony saying he'll miss Cap. Apparently something of a rapport has developed.

That man has no regard for lawn maintenance.
I'm gonna miss him though.
And you're gonna miss me. There's gonna be a lot of manful tears.
I will miss you, Tony.
Yeah? Well, it's time for me to tap out.
Maybe I should take a page out of Barton's book and build Pepper a farm. Hope nobody blows it up.
The simple life.
You'll get there one day.
I don't know. Family, stability. The guy who wanted all that went in the ice 75 years ago.
I think someone else came out.
You all right?
I'm home.

 

[- J - D -]

lol

This is not how effective stories are made. Not saying, at all, that Civil War won't be effective (I'm hyped as fuck), but "this moment is important because of an assumed relationship that is built off-screen" is not how good stories are told.

It looks and sounds good in a trailer. The significance of that moment though, who knows? We don't have the context yet.

And I hold true to what I said before about being able to assume that their friendship develops to some (unknown) extent between the films. It's implied that the Avengers have had adventures between the first and second movie. They have a jokey rapport together and also party together. Then there's the comraderie and saving the world together. They start AoU on good footing, and still good afterward. Friendships come in many forms, they don't have to be childhood BFFs to convince me that they're on friendly terms.

It's not like this is like Attack of the Clones telling us that Anakin and Obi Wan are good friends with a stilted elevator conversation detailing their past endeavors together. Now that is some bullshit.

 

[guek]

Yeah the "they were never even friends!" argument makes no sense to me. They were never BFFs but they were clearly friends in AoU.

 

[IconGrist]

Yeah the "they were never even friends!" argument makes no sense to me. They were never BFFs but they were clearly friends in AoU.

They fought in AoU just before Vision was awakened, lol. Stark even made a condescending remark about Cap being in charge even though he designs and pays for everything. Really the only time they got along was at the very end when they were joking about Mjolnir.

 

[shingi70]

Does the relationship between Tony and Steve need to be a big thing in the film. Yes they are friends and this is pulling them apart but we've seen in two films already that they don't see eye to eye and in some ways have changed to different sides of the speturm. Captain America is loyal to the dream and doesn't want to be a government stooge instead doing things his way. Stark doesn't want to privatise world peace and instead is working in with the government.

 

[Shadow Ranger]

They had shwarma together. Gots to be friends.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

What we need is a montage of friend moments

Tony or cap stares out into a lake, the music starts and different scenes of Tony and Steve are laughing at a movie theater eating popcorn, Tony is helping Steve test pilot the iron man armor, Steve guards the stall while a drunk Tony is puking his guts out etc.

 

[Ashhong]

the movies have done nothing to make it look like they're anything beyond that.

stark and banner seem like friends, him and steve are just co-workers.

You really think they dont even consider each other "friends"? Give me a break.

 

[guek]

They fought in AoU just before Vision was awakened, lol. Stark even made a condescending remark about Cap being in charge even though he designs and pays for everything. Really the only time they got along was at the every end when they were joking about Mjolnir.

There's the party scene, right before they leave Hawkeye's house, and the closing scene. Tony makes snide remarks about everyone. He teases him about saying "language" for most of the movie in what's clearly just friendly banter.

Yeah, there's friction between them but it's obvious they're more than just acquaintances or work colleagues. I don't see any basis for anything otherwise. Certainly their friendship isn't a cornerstone of any of the Avengers movies but that's not what's being said.

If anyone could be considered merely an "acquaintance," it'd be Thor. That guy has nothing in the way of a relationship on display with any of his teammates in either Avenger film with the sole exception of his exit in AoU.

 

[Dai101]

If anyone could be considered merely an "acquaintance," it'd be Thor. That guy has nothing in the way of a relationship on display with any of his teammates in either Avenger film with the sole exception of his exit in AoU.

Except he's a bash bro with Cap. Hell, they drink the same gargleblaster together.

 

[BronsonLee]

Tony and Cap are friends. Tony snarks all over everybody, including his friends, and Cap's pretty stoic about it all. It's also of note that Tony is really emotionally fragile. A lot of his stuff is a facade.

Throw in the fact that Cap is literally defending the guy who killed his parents, and it's probably real fucked up for Tony.

 

[Pachimari]

Baron Zemo will be known by many names in Civil War. And I really don't think we are getting Baron Zemo or anything close to the classic comic book incarnation.

"I will say that his character is very much a product of the Cinematic Universe and all that has occurred within that universe up to this point."

Martin Freeman also have a key role and will appear elsewhere in the MCU as well.

"He’s under the cloak of secrecy," Feige teases. "There are a lot of amazing actors in this movie. Some of them play larger roles than others. And in some cases there are some you will meet ever so briefly in this film and then will be expanded upon in future films. He falls into that latter category."

Steve Rogers would also love to be part of an Iron Man 4:

"I’d be happy to be in an Iron Man movie. We've been in so many movies together, the titles are almost, at this point, inconsequential. We all win!"

Source: Entertainment Weekly

New screens from Civil War:

 

[richiek]

Cap vs Black Panther:

 

[Pachimari]

Woah, those claws. Meow!

 

[kurahador]

Cap vs Black Panther:

Oh shit!!!!!

 

[Cerium]

Cap vs Black Panther:

Where's this from?

 

[Wazzy]

Yassss more BP! I'm loving all the BP stuff getting released.

 

[guek]

Cap vs Black Panther:

You ain't ready, Cap

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Cap vs Black Panther:

Ah yeah he scratched it! Cap's not the only one with vibranium.

 

[Dai101]

Cap vs Black Panther:

Shit just got real.

 

[kurahador]

So the MCU continuity in BP movie will totally be about T'Challa fixing Cap shield, right?

 

[Lebron]

Cap about to get that work

 

[Mighty Chin]

You really think they dont even consider each other "friends"? Give me a break.

They can't be as close as Wolverine and Storm in the Xmen movies.

 

[onipex]

Tony Stark in the mcu makes jokes towards CA but he does that towards a lot of people he seems to like. While not as strong a friendship as cap and bucky they do seem to have a mutual respect towards one another ever since they worked together on keeping the helicarrier from going down.

He was also the one to tell captain america to give the orders on how to fight the chitari, and not just charge on off like earlier in the film when they captured loki. Maybe i'm reaching here but he does seem to trust cap'n at that point in the movie in spite of the jokes towards him.

And most likely tony stark of the mcu does sincerely view captain america as a friend. We haven't seen much of them together doing buddy things but like I said, his trust and respect for steve is enough for me to call it a friendship.

Tony's friend didn't help him when his house was blown up. Tony didn't help CA when he was being hunted down.

These guys don't appear to be good friends at all.

 

[super-famicom]

Cap vs Black Panther:

T'challa doesn't mess around.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

That's a photoshopped version, guys. At least use the original. Here.

 

[Ashhong]

Tony's friend didn't help him when his house was blown up. Tony didn't help CA when he was being hunted down.

These guys don't appear to be good friends at all.

Tony's line is not "I thought we were good friends". I can't believe that you guys think these superheroes who work together, party together, and put their lives on the line for each other don't consider the other their friend. Are you just trolling or are you thick headed?

Like I'm sure there are people in the Army who aren't best friends and barely talk to each other, but work together on the battlefield and would still consider the other a friend.

 

[Slayven]

Cap about to get that work

 

[RSTEIN]

In the trailer they complain Cap hasn't operated with any super vision...

but I thought vision joined the avengers?

 

[Dai101]

In the trailer they complain Cap hasn't operated with any super vision...

but I thought vision joined the avengers?

 

[super-famicom]

In the trailer they complain Cap hasn't operated with any super vision...

but I thought vision joined the avengers?

SPECTRUM's got the super vision

 

[RSTEIN]