BlastProcessing
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Wait, are you saying this was some sort of profit thing?
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George Lucas quips he sold 'Star Wars' to "white slavers," criticizes tone of TFA
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Wait, are you saying this was some sort of profit thing?
Nappuccino
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Apparently George is more superficial than I would have thought. Things look the same, but JJ does a great job shaking things up and recontextualizing old imagery. Good characters do so much of the work.
Soulless planets without a character to be found in any prequels, emptiness in the "world of the prequels" is as good as nothing, stories are not planets.
It's well known Lucas is all about toy sales. Hence ewoks.
PdotMichael
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No stuff produced after and outside of the movies matters if we are talking about the quality of the movies.
Rebels barely fills some plotholes a decade after the last movie... wow.
but but the OT/TFA isn't also a good argument because no one would claim that the other movies are flawless even if they work as movie/trilogy unlike the PT.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Remember: everything is good and pure until you don't like it.
He didn't direct clover field.
Jeffolation
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Had to quote for posterity. Man oh man.
ZombieSupaStar
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Maybe without horrible acting and dialogue it would have been better.
triplestation
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Its a "what if" to me as long as George disapproves
But legally yes, it is indeed a star wars film
Star Wars: new hope had pretty bad acting
PHOENIXZERO
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The Force Awakens is the Star Wars movie it needed to be, be a very obvious homage or even love letter to the original trilogy, the low points for me were the freighter part and the Super Ultra Death Star III: Extreme Edition. Beyond that I was fine with pretty much everything else. It did its job, was fun and introduced the new characters, it laid the groundwork for the sequels that will almost certainly do their own thing.
The fanboyism in this thread is pretty bad too. I wonder if you feel he same way about every new batman iteration, every new super Mario iteration, every new cycle of hardware, etc.
Yuck this was clearly just a cynical corporate attempt at making money from a successful franchise.
No shit sherlock welcome to the world of business. If George Lucas wanted to do things purely out of passion he wouldnt be a "professional" director and his movies would be crap. Its called the film industry because it revolves around business, just like everything else. Do you think record labels are run at a loss for the love of it? People gotta get paid. This is a profession.
At least we got something good out of it, and made by people who love the originals just like us.
If the only real or possibly good star wars would have been from the man who added that terrible music scene in rotj then I don't want it.
Yuck this was clearly just a cynical corporate attempt at making money from a successful franchise.
No shit sherlock welcome to the world of business. If George Lucas wanted to do things purely out of passion he wouldnt be a "professional" director and his movies would be crap. Its called the film industry because it revolves around business, just like everything else. Do you think record labels are run at a loss for the love of it? People gotta get paid. This is a profession.
At least we got something good out of it, and made by people who love the originals just like us.
If the only real or possibly good star wars would have been from the man who added that terrible music scene in rotj then I don't want it.
That's classic Hollywood thinking these days, whether it's a sequel, remake or a straight ripoff. Make the same shit, but bigger, louder and CRAZIER. So of course we got a new Death Star. A Death Star that is 50 times bigger than the old one. A Death Star that travels and shoots its planet-destroying laser at lightspeed. A Death Star that consumes entire stars to power itself up. A Death Star that doesn't destroy just one planet in the movie, but an entire planetary system. Bigger. Louder. Crazier.
Of course, when it comes to destroying the thing, it's an even easier job than before LOL.
Death Star Mark III along with I-Rex in Jurassic World is some of the laziest shit I've seen in blockbusters lately.
Wake up, sheeple!
ZombieSupaStar
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oh it did, but the entire PT was off the charts stupid. rough sand, deeply in love, space taxes, only a sith deals in absolutes...
jesus did nobody raise their hands on production meetings?
PdotMichael
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The hands were replaced with CG thumb ups in post-production.
triplestation
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Haha
Lmao
Discotheque
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worst thing about that was the briefing room lol. one guy says "they built another death star"
poe says no and displays the hologram model to compare...and it's another death star just bigger haha
illmatic22
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Interesting read. Thanks for sharing.
from my point of view, the production meetings are evil
Basically this.
Pretty sure Lucas made a point of getting rid of anyone who would have. It's very unlikely that the PT would've turned out the way that it did if there were anyone left to second-guess his decisions.
ZombieSupaStar
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seriously id rather take an OT retread than Space Taxation, Force Tapeworms, Immaculate Sith Conception, oh and LOSING THE WILL TO LIVE because reasons....
Revering the PT is never going to happen Gretchen!
Revering the PT is never going to happen Gretchen!
triplestation
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Cloverfield sucks!
Everything is fan fiction confirmed
TFA is a fun ride but realize what it is and Lucas is an amazing individual who has contributed more to cinema than anyone else.
I got a crazy idea for a sequel. The starkiller is back and EVEN BIGGER , and they gotta destroy it again! (Return of the Jedi)
People acting like the originals and prequels weren't ridiculous and full of stupid shit need to rewatch. The ewoks defeated the emperors plot with sticks and rocks. Come. The fuck. On.
Star Wars was always a silly ridiculous adventure. If you're gonna be mad about TFA be mad that it was less ridiculous and silly, not more.
It's a shitty writing trope where the writer knows they fucked up and so highlights the difference or flaw so you know they know, which they promptly ignore and push ahead.
ZombieSupaStar
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Yep, at this point we drop Marcia Lucas into the thread
http://www.thegalaxyexpress.net/2011/09/marcia-lucas-unsung-hero-of-star-wars.html
SW happened in spite of Lucas it seems lol.
reptilescorpio
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lol spot on
And people pointed out it was stupid as fuck then too.
At least it added the shield generator aspect though.
User 479360
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Oh, George. I respect you for bringing us three of my favourite movies, but those are some pretty egotistical comments.
All the "cool kids" decided to hate on the movies that were released from 99-2005, too. It's not a new phenomenon.
TheDinoman
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This entire post had me scratch my entire head.
You really think TFA is worse than the fucking prequels?
gioGAF
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Not a high horse, me and every other fan that has watched and rewatched this film (propelling it to $571 million for 2015) are proof.
I'm not speaking for anyone, but it is obvious that many are in agreement. I will just chalk your comment up to you being salty, no worries dude.
Seriously people talk about shit writing but that entire scene was shit. Oh no its no death star. see here is a death star and this is starkiller. see its so much bigger.
After the terrible prequels, horrid input for Indy 4, and paint-by-numbers Red Tails I'm ready for him to stop contributing to cinema.
He just doesn't have the energy anymore.
THANK you. You do not represent the entire fanbase, thank goodness.
PdotMichael
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I assume you mean the original trilogy. He didn't write or direct Empire or Jedi.
People should actually watch the interview. The white slaver thing in an off the cuff remark and he even laughs when he says it.
He is absolutely right about TFA, which I loved, it relies a lot on nostalgia and retro feeling, it's a pretty safe movie. Hate the prequels all you want, but he did try new things with them, even if many of them failed. He talks about spaceships in that quote, but in another part of the interview he also talks about Star Wars being much more than just spaceships , it's just that he speaks too frankly and blurts out a lot of things without thinking it through and it can get taken out of context.
He is absolutely right about TFA, which I loved, it relies a lot on nostalgia and retro feeling, it's a pretty safe movie. Hate the prequels all you want, but he did try new things with them, even if many of them failed. He talks about spaceships in that quote, but in another part of the interview he also talks about Star Wars being much more than just spaceships , it's just that he speaks too frankly and blurts out a lot of things without thinking it through and it can get taken out of context.
Are proof that individuals just want their childhood spoon fed to them since they can't grow up and learn to like new things.
Maybe there doesn't need to be a Star Wars in 2016 aping a movie that almost came out thirty years ago.
As much are shitting on Lucas they sure fucking love something that rips everyone of his ideas off.
cj_iwakura
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Well, he's not wrong about the lack of originality. It's been kind of hilarious how the prequels seem to get hated on more with time, but they were each adored on release, then reviled in favor of the next one.
I'd say yeah good picks, expect for Into Darkness personally.
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