JetSetRadio
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I expect nx console to be eaten alive by this monster.
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PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users
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Ninja Scooter
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The industry has changed. If you go back and look at the PS2's exclusive lineup, a ton of those were third party titles. Third parties are much less likely to play that game this time around. It's simply more economically viable for them to put their games on as many platforms as possible, and it's probably not economically viable for Sony to pony up the $$$ to lock those games up as complete exclusives. Major AAA third party releases, like Battlefront, or CoD or Assassin's Creed are what drive console sales these days. Sony cutting marketing deals with EA for Star Wars, or WB for Batman or Activision for CoD, is probably way more effective with these consumers than developing a new internal IP and can be done at probably a fraction of the price. It's smart business and Sony has been playing this generation smart right out of the gate, and they are being rewarded for it.
eerik9000
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LOL, no. Sony has big movie and music businesses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Music_Entertainment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Pictures_Entertainment
This is absolutely true. I work in retail, and tons of people think that those games are only on the PS4 because of commercials, or the banner ads. It's clearly working in their favor.
Anyone thinks he looks like Michael from gta 5?
LiquidSolid
Member
No. Shu said that Horizon's budget is larger than The Last Guardian's.
Lionel Richie
Member
Well, considering that the Wii was one generation from the PS2 and did pretty well by itself and that we have no idea what the flying fuck the NX even is, I say this post makes absolutely no fucking sense. And it almost sounds like you're happy saying it.
The Artisan
Member
do you think nx will take away/end Ps4's momentum?
Mr_Antimatter
Member
For the larger devs, yes, but smaller to medium devs can gain a lot from just going single platform or single console/PC. Fewer platforms to dev for must save costs, after all. And if you have one runaway market leader, whose library fit's you game, then why not?
Papacheeks
Banned
Wii was a anomaly. AKA lightning in a bottle as GAF says it. Please show me in their history where their home console was bought in such a manner?
Sony's Playstation outside of maybe PS3 has shown the power of their brand, and console selling throughout the different generations.
And the current one seems to back that.
Lionel Richie
Member
Probably not, but it could so I don't expect it not to. Basically because we don't know what it is, maybe it will be really catchy. What I meant is that it was harder to see the Wii having the success it had following the PS2 than it is for the NX now. Weird shit happens.
The most popular engines for small developers have functions whereby porting isn't grossly expensive or difficult. And the runaway market leader(s) (especially for small devs) isn't a console, obviously.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I'd say the PS3 showed the power of the brand more than the PS2. That launch was disastrous, and it recovered to sell 90m units (or whatever it's up to now).
shotgunbob04
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Andrew House didn't mention Horizon Zero Dawn in that quote. Should I expect a delay like a lot of people are saying?
The price of the ps4 is going to be lower throughout this year compared to the last. And this is the year Uncharted & Gran Turismo finally come out for PS4. Sony's big hitter exclusive franchises (sales-wise). Not to mention the PSVR launch. And then there's Final Fantasy which is associated with the PS brand. If anything, I see it speeding up.
The only thing I can see slowing the ps4 down is if the NX turns out to be something terrific and comes out at a competitive price in the middle of the year or something.
Ps4 will probably be $250 by the time no comes out.
I don't see how it can compete.
eerik9000
Member
Yes. Uncharted 4, New Hot Shots Golf, and The Last Guardian are the only games Sony will release on PS4 this year. Everything else has been cancelled or delayed. Going to be a really poor year for PS4.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Unless the NX has FIFA, CoD, Battlefront etc, it won't make a dent nomatter how great it is.
I disagree. I think if anything it proves how brand alone, in this industry, can only get you so far. Only through more aggressive pricing and higher quality exclusive releases did Sony claw back. In-fact, the entire market has shown time and time again that brand power unreliable, with Nintendo very quickly losing their position of dominance, and Sony with the PS3 too.
nycgamer4ever
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The Artisan
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i proposed the idea here but the person I conversed with at the time wasn't really convinced it could happen.
Ok, I'm just playing devil's advocate here but the wii u started off cheaper than Ps4 and xbone but was easily eclipsed - there are of course several reasons why it fell behind but what I'm saying is by the time the nx releases, for those gamers who have yet to purchase an 8th gen console, nx will be the newest and freshest thing on the market. They may be Eyeing that more than the Ps4 at that point.
Nameless
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Not just that but the proliferation of mid-tier, Japanese, and indie games do make a difference. Stuff like Talos Principle, Disgaea, and Dragon Quest Heroes, while not system sellers by themselves, collectively come together to create a rich, diverse catalog that offers something for everyone. If you look at PS4'S release list from June last year to December there were TONS of quality games on that type of scale or smaller. Those things add up.
Pretty much, open world like Witcher, that game is ambitious and 2017 is more likely than 2016 right now.
2017 along Last of Us 2, Infamous 3, God of War 4 and Sony Bend New game.
You should expect a delay because Horizon looks like the next big IP from Sony and if Guerilla will need more time to get it right I'm sure they will get it, not because of this quote.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
You're setting yourself up for some disappointment there man.
Are you interested in some MAU number?
By the way, why are people expecting TLOU2 out by 2017. You wont see ND next game anytime soon.
VanCityGamer
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I'd say around 17 or 18 million?
Street Fighter V also is not mentioned. Game will be delayed?
Likely less than half of that.
Youbare reading too much into this.
The Artisan
Member
Less than 17.5 million?
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Good job Sony.
Not really, there is still a big audience on Xbox One that no publisher would want to cut out just because it's less work.
Killzone 2 was delayed
Less than 17.95M sold through for the XB1, that's my guess yes.
The PS3 probably would not have been given the time for Sony to make the changes they needed to if it didn't have the name to fall back on. Without that name it easily could have been a complete failure with Sony's efforts not being enough. Developers would have given up and moved on and not given it a second chance without that name.
The name most certainly helped the PS3 from not failing. As for Nintendo, their downfall has been a slow decline over multiple consoles in the making so yes, eventually if you continuously reinforce an image (such as image of lack of third party support) your brand will start weakening.
SFV isn't mentioned because he's specifically talking about games from Sony Worldwide Studios which SFV is not
Edit: actually he does mention third party publishers but all three games mentioned are from Sony Studios which makes it seem like he is referring to their games.
You don't expect it not to. That's basically saying nothing. Statements like that and "I'm not so sure that ..." are essentially pointless.
DeepEnigma
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That was mentioned in here, and was also mentioned that it was the Holiday season, and Resistance 2 came out the month prior. I am willing to bet it was more of a release strategy decision, that just gave them a little more time to polish (which translated into an amazingly balanced and great feeling multiplayer). Man I should have played it online more.
joecanada
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Im curious if anyone thinks NX will be a success off the bat, I don't see how it can sell well initially, who's just jumping on the latest Nintendo hardware?
I could see how they could build up some decent games like WiiU but I don't see anything they are doing that would improve the situation drastically.
They caught the lightning by hitting all the casuals with wii , then the lightning struck them down as it all went to mobile. So does this mean they need a new tech or device/innovation to strike again?
I guess the gamepad was the thing this time, but didn't quite work.
I agree EXCEPT if you are talking about indie pubs and that parity clause, there was a whole thread on here about it. If you have limited resources and you need to get a product out the door and xbox has that clause, then you may in fact skip xbox altogether.
Vital Tundra
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Jesus. Crazy how well it's doing without almost any first party titles. Probably will get one at the end of the year or next years Christmas.
Actually you're 100% correct Sony said it was for strategic reasons, not because of dev problems http://www.wired.com/2008/05/sony-killzone-2/That was mentioned in here, and was also mentioned that it was the Holiday season, and Resistance 2 came out the month prior. I am willing to bet it was more of a release strategy decision, that gave them a little more time to polish (which translated into an amazingly balanced and great feeling multiplayer). Man I should have played it online more.
Over time? Nintendo dropped the ball to Sony in one fell swoop with the N64. And Sony again with the PS3. I'm not saying that brand doesn't matter at all, it obviously does, but it's clear consumers care more for the product and games than they do the name. Were that not the case, the original Playstation would have never eclipsed Nintendo the way it did.
DeepEnigma
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Yeah, could have sworn I remembered that, lol. Nice, memory still serves me good, lol.
Explains why the multiplayer was so well balanced. Had some more time to polish it, while the main team started 3 I assume.