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Wait, where are all the survival horror games for 2016?
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Hibiki Kurosawa
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Easily one of my favourite genres. There surely needs to be more releases.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
So name me a horror game that isn't survival horror then.
xamidoxhua
Member
I miss dead space. The first one was great.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
One of the greatest experiences of last gen. I miss it too.
Until Dawn, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, Doom, FEAR..etc
The core objective of these games are not survival. If just not dying was the sole requirement then any game with a bit of creepy atmosphere would be called survival horror.
But since the focus on Amnesia and Outlast is to survive, in a horror environment,and as such it is survival horror.
wild wild rice
Member
Yes, yes it was. 2 lost me a bit, didn't bother with 3.
Sarcastico
Member
Subpar Scrub
Banned
You don't have to manage resources like ammo or health in fear or doom?
Don't have to find ways to unlock doors and such? Ok.
I'll agree about until dawn though, because it's effectively impossible to lose.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Nor should you.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Has Outlast 2 been confirmed to be VR compatible yet? If so then that's my killer app for VR.
Enordash
Member
Too true. Felt the same exact way about FEAR 3 (or F3AR if we must, gross)
Survival Horror or not, I'm already tired of hide and seek. At least give me a way to fight back, it doesn't need to be a huge gun, give me a pipe or something. Condemned nailed the melee, just copy that game if it needs to be a First Person Survival Horror.
I never got worried about not having ammo while playing FEAR or Doom.
And almost every game ever feature parts where you need to find ways to unlock doors, etc.
Nah, you just shoot stuff, you only have to manage resources if you have an awful aim.
I never got worried about not having ammo while playing FEAR or Doom.
And almost every game ever feature parts where you need to find ways to unlock doors, etc.
StrongBelwas
Banned
Instead of arguing if something is or isn't survival horror can we just use this thread to focus on upcoming horror games please?
I don't give a shit if Outlast counts as survival horror or not, all I know is its not the kind of horror game I want to play. It's pointless getting bogged down in genre definitions. If someone asks for Silent Hill or Resi style horror then the answer isn't Outlast. Not sure exactly if the OP wanted that though as the question was kinda vague.
partyphone
Banned
so this thread made me go and look at recent updates from the Routine team. their latest blog post was December 17 2015: http://www.lunar-software.com/2015/12/december-status-update/ and their latest tweet was also last December: https://twitter.com/LunarSoftware
but it seems like the game is nearly done and they're probably in crunch time right now? hopefully?
but it seems like the game is nearly done and they're probably in crunch time right now? hopefully?
This. The Outlast argument is a 3-page derail so far.
Wikipedia says Outlast is a survival horror game lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlast
edit, never mind, already beaten!
Enordash
Member
Yes, please.
Has anyone tried the Layers of Fear early access? I'm interested in picking it up when it releases fully.
Gravy Boat
Member
Super Mario being classified as a 'Survival Platformer' confirmed.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
I have to manage my Pikmin as they are my resources, so I also consider Pikmin to be a survival horror game.
Doom is survival horror? LOL
Resident Evil is THE Survival-Horror game.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
I have to manage my Pikmin as they are my resources, so I also consider Pikmin to be a survival horror game.
Doom is survival horror? LOL
Nah you're right. Let's just make the requirements for a survival horror game to be:
1. Spooky
2. You have to try not to lose
Perfect.
And no, doom isn't survival horror. I was just pointing out that when you don't take into consideration the specific nuances and requirements for survival horror games like RE and silent hill, anything could be seen as survival horror.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
You have once again entered the world of survival horror. Good luck!
Resident Evil literally invented the term.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
It's hard to talk about upcoming survival horror games when people in this thread don't know what the OP is saying.
I'd make a thread about wanting combat racing games but all I'd get is forza suggestions.
Because it's a racing game.
And nudging other cars is like combat.
Enordash
Member
A quick recap of listed games to get things on track:
Through the Woods
Perception
Allison Road
Layers of Fear
P.A.M.E.L.A.
Friday the 13th
Routine
Outlast 2
The Hum: Abductions
Until Dawn: Rush of Blood
Resident Evil 0 HD
Dying Light: The Following
What Remains of Edith Finch
Call of Cthulhu
TWD Season 3
The Forest
DOOM (?)
Firewatch (?)
Through the Woods
Perception
Allison Road
Layers of Fear
P.A.M.E.L.A.
Friday the 13th
Routine
Outlast 2
The Hum: Abductions
Until Dawn: Rush of Blood
Resident Evil 0 HD
Dying Light: The Following
What Remains of Edith Finch
Call of Cthulhu
TWD Season 3
The Forest
DOOM (?)
Firewatch (?)
Subpar Scrub
Banned
Just a question for everyone though:
Do you prefer your 3rd person horror games to have fixed cameras or cameras that track you?
Seems like almost every new release tracks the model.
Do you prefer your 3rd person horror games to have fixed cameras or cameras that track you?
Seems like almost every new release tracks the model.
What I mean is that surviving is the main objective of the game. Jumping around platforms is the main objective of Super Mario. Killing things is the main objective of shooters. In Outlast your main objective is avoiding enemies to survive.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
I thought the main objective was to escape the asylum. Which you need to avoid enemies to accomplish.
In mario you need to rescue peach, which you have to kill or avoid enemies to accomplish.
This is why boiling things down is so silly. If surviving was outlasts main objective, I wouldn't move when I got out of my car at the start of the game and say "yay! I'm surviving"
Gravy Boat
Member
Surviving is very much the main objective of Super Mario. It's literally what you need to do to finish the game. In shooters you're killing things so that they don't kill you, so you can survive.
I'm not bothered about calling Outlast a survival horror, but saying 'Oh well you have to survive in Outlast' is a non-argument since that applies to almost every game ever made.
Enordash
Member
The fixed camera is definitely effective at creating tension, but can detract from the gameplay experience at times. I think it depends on the game. Until Dawn didn't suffer from the use of a fixed camera, but I wouldn't want a fixed camera for Dead Space.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
There's a SHIT TON of horror games in development, but almost all of them are niche things the general public has never heard of.
There were so many really good horror games released last year that were woefully underlooked.
I'm about to hit the hay but I may put together a quick post of a few horror games coming out this year.
There were so many really good horror games released last year that were woefully underlooked.
I'm about to hit the hay but I may put together a quick post of a few horror games coming out this year.
TheRedSnifit
Member
This discussion is kind of silly.
"Survival" is an actual genre. It revolves around the location and management of resources, which aren't in abundance. A survival horror game is a horror-themed survival game, and as such revolves around resource management as opposed to stealth or combat.
RE4, DOOM, Dead Space, The Last of Us, Amnesia, PT = Not survival horror
REmake, System Shock 2, ZombiU, FNaF, Alien: Isolation = Survival horror
"Survival" is an actual genre. It revolves around the location and management of resources, which aren't in abundance. A survival horror game is a horror-themed survival game, and as such revolves around resource management as opposed to stealth or combat.
RE4, DOOM, Dead Space, The Last of Us, Amnesia, PT = Not survival horror
REmake, System Shock 2, ZombiU, FNaF, Alien: Isolation = Survival horror
So what you saying is pretty much that every game has the objective to survive, so Survival Horror as a genre should not exist and be just called Horror.
I'm using the survive part here mainly because that's the name of the genre. I would be OK with it being just called Horror games.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
Ignore this.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
Maybe the survival in survival horror has the connotation of resource gathering and health/ammo scarcity which requires maintenance as its meaning of survival.
Not the character living.
That's just always been my interpretation anyway.
TheRedSnifit
Member
That'd be a rather useless genre name, given how it'd imply virtually no difference between REmake and FEAR.
The game is literally nothing but resource management.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
Yeah, unless the game has a laser pointer or soft lock, it makes shooting in fixed camera angles a nightmare.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
Ah shit I totally forgot how that game played.
Never mind my comment. I forgot about the doors and lights and thought the cameras sent the characters back.
Which is insane considering I watched most of markipliers videos.
comshoplesce
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thanks i been looking for this info.
plagiarize
Banned
In this thread, some people learnt what 'such as' means. Jesus people. Just because you don't like a particular game in a genre doesn't mean it isn't in that genre.
The focus in Resident Evil is staying alive. Not, in killing all the enemies. You can complete the game killing very little. That's always been the way.
I didn't know Outlast 2 was coming this year, so I'm very glad people mentioned it in here. Hopefully they add VR support because I am totally on board with VR horror, even though it puts a higher physical strain on the player.
Health warnings will need to be the same as for stuff like Halloween Horror Nights. People with weak hearts could absolutely die thanks to playing a horror title in VR over on a normal display.
2016 should be a great year for horror.
The focus in Resident Evil is staying alive. Not, in killing all the enemies. You can complete the game killing very little. That's always been the way.
I didn't know Outlast 2 was coming this year, so I'm very glad people mentioned it in here. Hopefully they add VR support because I am totally on board with VR horror, even though it puts a higher physical strain on the player.
Health warnings will need to be the same as for stuff like Halloween Horror Nights. People with weak hearts could absolutely die thanks to playing a horror title in VR over on a normal display.
2016 should be a great year for horror.
I seriously confuse Routine Alpha and Adr1ft all the time. Seeing one game makes me forget about the other, since I think they are one and the same.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
I heard some people who've played horror demos have said its a terrifying experience (in a negative way) because your body wants to jerk away from what you're seeing during a scare and you can't.
Has definitely scared some people away, no pun intended.
Enordash
Member
In hindsight, Dead Space was a terrible example since it simply wouldn't work with fixed angles because the dismember mechanic would be impossible. But yes, I agree, fixed camera angles are not kind to the 'action' part of some of those games. It's perfectly fine if you are just exploring.
Gravy Boat
Member
I'm saying that game genres are stupid most of the time but just stick. Like Moba literally means 'Multiplayer Online Battle Arena' which could apply to pretty much any pvp game that involves killing, but in reality it applies to a group of games that meet very specific criteria. The same goes for RPG. In almost every game you are playing a role, but nobody would call Battlefield 4 an RPG, or Super Mario.
The fact that some games are called 'survival horror' doesn't mean that any horror game that involves surviving fits into that category. Doom for example, is very much a horror series but isn't survival horror, even though it focuses heavily on surviving. Outlast and Amnesia don't fit in the same categories as games like Resident Evil, Silent Hill etc, games which I see as the best examples of what survivor horror is. So for that reason, I wouldn't say Outlast is a survivor horror game. Some people might, who cares? But saying it's a survival horror because it's a horror game where you have to survive is like saying Call Of Duty is a moba because you battle other people online in an arena.