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Sonic the Hedgehog's new PR person is incredible

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BY2K

Membero Americo
The Attack Helicopter thing was an actual meme created to mock Transgender individuals, you can look it up on urban dictionary.

I think it was used specifically to mock otherkins, though. because for transgender, it doesn't make much sense.
 

Cisgendered just means you identify as the gender that aligns with the biological sex you were born as.

The tweet is kinda shitty, but at the same time I think Brianna blowing it up like that is ridiculous. Transphobia and the trans suicide rates are a HUGE problem, but it's a little insulting for her to suggest that anyone is gonna kill themselves over a shitty Sonic the Hedgehog tweet. Especially considering she came under fire a few months back for using the word "tranny" and now acts like she's the trans community's watchful guardian.
 

Platy

Member
Cisgender does not imply gender binary ... if you identify as agender or bigender or whatever you identify with something different you were assigned too, so you are in the trans* umbrella


Cis is the latin term opposite to trans. People usualy remember from chemistry, specialy isomerism

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trans-diazene

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cis-diazene
 

Warxard

Banned
The biggest problem with the hellicopter thing is that it makes ABSOLUTLY NO SENSE for Sonic to say that.

Like .. ZERO sense.

So it is a shit joke first, problematic choice of words second =P

Sonic fights an attack helicopter in Sonic Adventure 2
 

Arkeband

Banned
Cisgendered just means you identify as the gender that aligns with the biological sex you were born as.

The tweet is kinda shitty, but at the same time I think Brianna blowing it up like that is ridiculous. As big a problem as transphobia and the trans suicide rates are, it's a little insulting for her to suggest that anyone is gonna kill themselves over a shitty Sonic the Hedgehog tweet. Especially considering she came under fire a few months back for using the word "tranny" and now acts like she's the trans community's watchful guardian.

Brianna should demand Sonic Team earn their forgiveness by doing the thing they love least in this world.

Releasing a good Sonic game.
 
I don't think it's unfair to call out a company's twitter for saying something offensive. Brianna Wu's point was that jokes like this play into a larger system that is responsible for the alarming suicide rate. It does not mean people are committing suicide over poorly conceived jokes from Sonic's twitter. It doesn't mean the account is bad or even that it's not incredible. They just said something offensive, the professional thing to do would be apologize, otherwise the least they could do is be a little more careful in the future. So it isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things, people make mistakes, but they should hold themselves accountable for those mistakes when they are an official sega twitter account, for example.

EDIT: To be clear, I don't think this is something anyone should be fired over. That isn't what I meant in those last couple statements.
 
It's a meme. Holy shit some people have victim complexes.
It's a joke look at the intent. People can spin whatever they want into what fits their agenda. You're asking someone get fired for this?
 
I don't think it's unfair to call out a company's twitter for saying something offensive. Brianna Wu's point was that jokes like this play into a larger system that is responsible for the alarming suicide rate. It does not mean people are committing suicide over poorly conceived jokes from Sonic's twitter. It doesn't mean the account is bad or even that it's not incredible. They just said something offensive, the professional thing to do would be apologize, otherwise the least they could do is be a little more careful in the future. So it isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things, people make mistakes, but they should hold themselves accountable for those mistakes when they are an official sega twitter account, for example.

You explained it perfectly.
 

TBiddy

Member
Jesus, it doesn't take much nowadays to bring on a Twitterstorm, or whatever it's called.

If they had written "I hate trans-people", I could understand it, but that tweet was hilarious. People need to take a chill-pill.
 

23qwerty

Member
Jesus, it doesn't take much nowadays to bring on a Twitterstorm, or whatever it's called.

If they had written "I hate trans-people", I could understand it, but that tweet was hilarious. People need to take a chill-pill.
yes that old as fuck phrase that has been repeated ad nauseum for years by unfunny people is totally hilarious
 
I don't think it's unfair to call out a company's twitter for saying something offensive. Brianna Wu's point was that jokes like this play into a larger system that is responsible for the alarming suicide rate. It does not mean people are committing suicide over poorly conceived jokes from Sonic's twitter. It doesn't mean the account is bad or even that it's not incredible. They just said something offensive, the professional thing to do would be apologize, otherwise the least they could do is be a little more careful in the future. So it isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things, people make mistakes, but they should hold themselves accountable for those mistakes when they are an official sega twitter account, for example.

EDIT: To be clear, I don't think this is something anyone should be fired over. That isn't what I meant in those last couple statements.

shit you stole my post

essentially, Ruby should and does know better, his sass meter just needs bleeding; a few dozen slap on the wrists should do that
 
Yeah should we also focus on the fact that "I identify as ___________" and "check your privilege" haven't been funny for at least two years now?

It's a meme. Holy shit some people have victim complexes.
It's a joke look at the intent.

Yeah and blackface is "intended as a joke" too so what the hell is your point? That's never an acceptable defense.
 

FoxSpirit

Junior Member
Jesus, it doesn't take much nowadays to bring on a Twitterstorm, or whatever it's called.

If they had written "I hate trans-people", I could understand it, but that tweet was hilarious. People need to take a chill-pill.
I have played enough LoL to know there are parts of the pop who outright refuse to and love their outrage.
 
Jesus, it doesn't take much nowadays to bring on a Twitterstorm, or whatever it's called.

If they had written "I hate trans-people", I could understand it, but that tweet was hilarious. People need to take a chill-pill.

Twitterstorm? Ha ha. I've seen similar things happen to JonTron (like August 2014), but he ultimately deserved it because he followed up his tweets with more ignorant tweets. The backlash was a bit extreme but after about a week everything cooled down and nothing happened since. Presumably because it's twitter.
 
I don't think it's offensive since I think the intent wasn't for it to be offensive (and yes intent does matter) but it'd be nice of them to apologize and redact the tweet anyways purely for the sake of their followers who were offended.
 
I don't think it's offensive since I think the intent wasn't for it to be offensive (and yes intent does matter) but it'd be nice of them to apologize and redact the tweet anyways purely for the sake of their followers who were offended.
The problem there is that the tweet's attracted the positive attention of a very vocal crowd, one that, when a company starts practicing some self-restraint, tends to start attacking third parties over this perceived slight. It's a bad look any way you slice it.
 

Village

Member
Intent dont matter

You messing up means you messed up regardless of intent. Thats, just the world dude. You still did the thing. Whether you choose to give a shit about that, depending on severity of offence, is up to you.

If you are a or person basically rping the mascot of a world known video game company and franchise, caring might be good
 
Twitterstorm? Ha ha. I've seen similar things happen to JonTron (like August 2014), but he ultimately deserved it because he followed up his tweets with more ignorant tweets. The backlash was a bit extreme but after about a week everything cooled down and nothing happened since. Presumably because it's twitter.

The funniest thing about Internet drama is that it's almost always caused not by the looming threat of CRAZY PEOPLE ON TUMBLR OH NO but by people being so adamant at standing up to this "threatening" group of teenagers that they reveal themselves to have had horrible beliefs all along.

People probably would've forgotten about Penny Arcade's "dickwolves" if they hadn't exacerbated it so extremely in the weeks following. Nobody would have cared about JonTron saying the word "retarded" if he hadn't held livestreams complaining that SJWs are a cult who don't care about Gaza or whatever the fuck.

The end result is that, unless he goes crazy in the next few days and reveals things I'm not aware of, RubyEclipse is one of a majority of Internet users who don't care about that shit and just tell jokes. Of course, everyone who tells jokes is bound to tell a bad one eventually, which is what this is, but it's up to him to decide whether or not this is actually going to be a big deal, which I doubt he will.

The greatest irony of the Internet is that its biggest threats aren't people getting offended, but rather people who get offended that people are offended.
 

MrBadger

Member
The biggest problem with the hellicopter thing is that it makes ABSOLUTLY NO SENSE for Sonic to say that.

Like .. ZERO sense.

So it is a shit joke first, problematic choice of words second =P

Well it makes no sense for him to turn into a werewolf or have a talking sword either so I wouldn't focus on that :v
 

Arkeband

Banned
Thread title ideas:

Sonic the Hedgehog's new PR person is insensitive

Sonic the Hedgehog's new PR person is unoriginal

Sonic the Hedgehog's new PR person just shot himself in the foot
 

MrHoot

Member
I was wondering after his joke if Neogaf would get in a twist because of something even my transgender friends completely laughed at.

Sure enough, yep. I'll get the blankies
 

Platy

Member
Thread title ideas:

Sonic the Hedgehog's new PR person is insensitive

Sonic the Hedgehog's new PR person is unoriginal

Sonic the Hedgehog's new PR person just shot himself in the foot

Sonic the Hedgehog's new PR person is incredible, but as any person he has faults and should know that and apologyse when fucks up
 

InfiniteNine

Rolling Girl
I was wondering after his joke if Neogaf would get in a twist because of something even my transgender friends completely laughed at.

Sure enough, yep. I'll get the blankies

I'm trans and I didn't laugh at it or really care at all really.
The thing is if it used to be or is an active way to attack trans-folk I don't really see a problem with someone being offended by it since it was created for that purpose.
 

Richie

Member
Ideally he'll just apologize to those offended, people will accept his apology, and things will continue to be hilarious for everyone.

No big. Those offended will have their feelings acknowledged, the Sonic Twitter will earn respect for owning up to the mistake, hell people who weren't following him before may do so now attracted by this thing. Win-win situation.
 

NotLiquid

Member
Twitterstorm? Ha ha. I've seen similar things happen to JonTron (like August 2014), but he ultimately deserved it because he followed up his tweets with more ignorant tweets. The backlash was a bit extreme but after about a week everything cooled down and nothing happened since. Presumably because it's twitter.

Nah, it was more so because he eventually apologized and eventually decided to downtune his Twitter heavily.
 

MrHoot

Member
I'm trans and I didn't laugh at it or really care at all really.
The thing is if it used to be or is an active way to attack trans-folk I don't really see a problem with someone being offended by it since it was created for that purpose.

I don't think mr Sonic Hedgehog said that in other sense that just to continue the strings of dumb memes he's been on for months. Sure he could be apologize and be cool with it but raising pitchforks like he just pulled a Manny Pacquiao is hilarious, but also overblown in thinking it's meant as a personal insult. Dumb joke sure, whatever. Chose your battles
 
Yeah should we also focus on the fact that "I identify as ___________" and "check your privilege" haven't been funny for at least two years now?



Yeah and blackface is "intended as a joke" too so what the hell is your point? That's never an acceptable defense.
Other than what others have said, you're using blackface which has obvious racial connatations to compare check your privelidge to. If you can't see that they're different concepts entirely you obviously can't have an unbiased argument. My "defense" was that people are misconstruing something which was meant as a meme, as has been evident throughout this thread and on the twitter feed. It was also pretty clear from my original message.

Yeah should we also focus on the fact that "I identify as ___________" and "check your privilege" haven't been funny for at least two years now?
What classifies as humor is subjective, it's your opinion. Using absolute words to voice your opinion doesn't make you any more correct,when you're wrong.
 
"To leave that metaphor, let us grieve at what twitter has become. A stalking ground for the sanctimoniously self-righteous who love to second-guess, to leap to conclusions and be offended – worse, to be offended on behalf of others they do not even know. It’s as nasty and unwholesome a characteristic as can be imagined.

It doesn’t matter whether they think they’re defending women, men, transgender people, Muslims, humanists … the ghastliness is absolutely the same. It makes sensible people want to take an absolutely opposite point of view. I’ve heard people shriek their secularism in such a way as to make me want instantly to become an evangelical Christian.” — Stephen Fry Feb 15, 2006
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