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[TL21xx]

Hey guys, glad to be back. So, a new day means more info, and now we have some actual data to work with. I'm on mobile at the moment, so it'll be a little hard for me to go too in-depth for a bit, so my apologies if any of my explanations are brief. I will elaborate if needed.

Ok, my partner already called out Flux on his shenanigans, so I will avoid going in that direction. I've been clear on my own feelings towards his playstyle in particular, and Timeaisis has been pretty hands off. I am not sure how to feel seeing as inactivity on Time may well be the result of the duo being ordinary, BUT it could also be him compensating for the overactivity of Flux so that's a bit of a wash.

Kark's data table has me curious about...

Vote: Ty4on

What's going on over there guys?

 

[TL21xx]

And I took too long to write that xP

unvote

 

[Karkador]

Do you get a warning when you're bombed or not? Because it from your first line it sort of sounds like you had a warning.

We received the notification after our result notification. So we haven't even been able to chat about the result.

 

[Karkador]

It's so much more relaxing here without that evil bear running around.

Is, uhhh...

Is Burb okay

 

[Ty4on]

We received the notification after our result notification. So we haven't even been able to chat about the result.

I thought Zipped was being weirdly direct, but I guess the constant "something happened" posts by you were pretty strong hints to him.

And I took too long to write that xP

unvote

Why did you unvote me? I don't see any defence for my voting record.

 

[Kyanrute]

Remaining Blarg/Kawl voters - 13
Hyperactivity .1895
batsnacks .1930
Timeaisis .2009
TL21xx .2090
Kyanrute .2142 <- Partner Retroid voted Blarg twice, withdrew both
Camjo-Z .2514
Boo Boo'n .2677 <- Partner UltraJay voted on Splinter
FluxWaveZ .2687 <- Vote belongs to the wind
kingkitty .2700
El Topo .2808 <- Partner Giant Panda voted on Splinter
MagnumBoy20xx .2810
LaunchpadMcQ .2846
Gorlak .2861 <- Hammered vote

Remaining Splinter/cabot voters - 8
Ty4on .2491 <- Partner didn't vote; never voted on Blarg

Spoiler

Zippedpinhead .2608
Karkador .2609

Giant Panda .2719 <- Partner El Topo voted on Blarg
Flame_AC .2724 <- Immediately jumped on Blargwagon after we started; ended up here
Coppanuva .2737 <- Never voted on Blarg; ended up here right after partner Flame_AC
UltraJay .2744 <- Partner Boo Boo'n voted on Blarg; was on Blarg vote once
Dusk Soldier .2768 <- Voted on Coppa, then on Splinter after he does

^Kark's list.

Others - 3
Karu <- Zipped/Kark
Retroid <- Blawl unvote, Did not come back in time for the early end
hobohodo <- no vote, replacement

I'll draft an idea here and see what comes up.

I removed Zipped and Kark because there is very little doubt in my mind concerning them. Lets play with ideas. batideas 1st.

1. once Kark claimed, mafia should have assumed blarg was dead and bused him fast and mafia should have stayed on blarg so as not to look like flip flopping
This is the good mafia play imo. Realize when things are against you, accept your losses and move on. The list:

Hyperactivity .1895 <- Partner kingkitty votes Blawl at #2700 as his first vote
batsnacks .1930 <- Partner MangumBoy votes Blawl at #2810 as his first vote
Timeaisis .2009 <- lol flux
TL21xx .2090 <- Partner Camjo goes Blawl - unvote - Blawl, because he wanted to catch up on Blarg's megaposts, had he not done that he would be on this list between Time and TL
Kyanrute .2142 <- Partner Retroid went Blawl - unvote - too late for early end, because he wanted to catch up on the tread, would be on the list after me otherwise

2. mafia are probably people in the last few groups to vote cabot/splint
The part about fast votes on Blawl was covered in point 1. Point 2 would imo be the bad play (since Blawl was in the open) aka mafia hoping for town to go full dumb and repeat the end of day 1. Here are the people who either flipped late from Blawl or otherwise joined the Splibot train late. The train left the station around #2601.

Giant Panda .2719 <- Partner El Topo voted Blawl as his first vote at #2808 = late. Panda joined Splibot late, did not flip.
Flame_AC .2724 <- Jumped from Blawl, was a early voter on Blawl. he and UltraJay are the only flippers from Blawl to Splibot at the end.
Coppanuva .2737 <- never voted for Blawl, boarded the train soon after his partner
UltraJay .2744 <- Partner Boo^2 voted Blawl as his first vote at #2677 = middle-late-ish. Ultra himself was a middle-voter on Blawl before flip.
Dusk Soldier .2768 <- Partner Karu voted for Zipped and Kark, never voted Blawl

3. Who are missing so far?
My own question. Lets see.

4. [m] LaunchPadMcQ & [m] Gorlak <- They would be on list 1 via Launch but he wanted to see the world burn and unvoted Blawl for a bit. Gorlak on the other hand jumped around somewhat and hammered Blawl in the end.
15. [m ]hobohodo & [m] Ty4on <- hobo never voted and Ty4on was on the Splibot train before it even existed.

I'll comment more on all this after I've cleared my head with some shopping and food. Feel free to point out mistakes if I made any.

 

[Ourobolus]

Is, uhhh...

Is Burb okay

I'm sorry, it's impolite for me to respond while chewing.

 

[Warxard]

UltraJay or Boo Boo'n, pls respond. Did you indeed not do anything on N2?

Nope, not a damn thing. We don't have any abilities in this game.

 

[Karkador]

I'm sorry, it's impolite for me to respond while chewing.

This is such an Ourobolus game

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I don't like how Flux plays. It comes off as somehow arrogant. Furthermore he does not take any responsibility for creating two bandwaggons on two days.

Grasping at straws, here. So I have the power to lead bandwagons, huh. Should I create one against you?

 

[Gorlak]

Grasping at straws, here. So I have the power to lead bandwagons, huh. Should I create one against you?

Well, if that is what it takes to get people looking at you

 

[TL21xx]

Why did you unvote me? I don't see any defence for my voting record.

Fishing for reactions, and wasn't comfortable putting you under hot water after rereading the last page. Vote was meant more as a prod to talk about it than anything serious. Since you're the one that brought it up, want to defend it?

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Well, if that is what it takes to get people looking at you

You were the one following the flow of the votes, going with the bandwagon. Is everyone who is at the forefront of the voting process suspicious to you? Need I remind you that you also voted for *Splinter and cabot?

"Creating bandwagons" is utter nonsense, unless you actually believe that I have this power of persuasion over people. Blindly following the majority is just as dangerous as what you suggest.

 

[Karkador]

FWIW, I led the bandwagon on Splinter (for good reason), not Flux. He just kind of..jumps on and off.

I think Flux's play has been bizarre and disruptive, especially in contrast to his partner Timeaisis. I do think it's suspicious. It merits looking at. However, they also don't wield a lot of influence in the discussion, so even if their intent is bad, I don't believe they're really influencing that many votes.

 

[Ty4on]

Fishing for reactions, and wasn't comfortable putting you under hot water after rereading the last page. Vote was meant more as a prod to talk about it than anything serious. Since you're the one that brought it up, want to defend it?

I thought they were scum. My only defence is that doing that as scum would be really stupid and risky and from what I remember I never made an attempt to backtrack or take a more moderate opinion after the Splinter votes IIRC. From what I remember this was my strongest scum read of Blawl and it is still doubting as to leave a second option on the table:

And if Blawl is non-tracker scum they somehow knew Karkhead targeted them...

All of these weird coincidences are why I haven't been super keen on voting either out. I accept it will happen and is probably our best choice, but no way I look at it does the story make much sense. Blawl being scum makes the most sense to me, but still. Powerful scum PR claims their role and miller status D1 with miller status contradicting cop claim (role, not alignment cop) and for the cherry on top the contradicting role claim is retracted.

I even voted for Kark a little later:

I know. I didn't mention it because the end result is still two trackers which is equally unlikely.

All of this thinking of Blawl's role claim and reasoning made me less sure he was the obvious choice:
VOTE: Karkador

I might change when I've read more. I'm by no means dead set on Karkhead.

And wow does it look bad now.
My thought process here was going through all of the possible scenarios to find one that gave me a simple solution. What bothered me with lynching Blawl was how little sense his D1 moves made. I think the idea I had in my head right there was Kark being a scum investigator who investigated Blawl N1 and saw that he was a neutral. That hypothesis solves the doctor paradox (Kark being pretty sure he was Blawl's N1 target) and is a rational outcome for scum Kark because lynching a neutral would probably make town think it was a win. More rational. Not really super rational... I saw more holes with this the next morning which is why I unvoted at #2347. My only memory of that is I went through a Kark as scum scenario and saw it was more flawed than I thought, but don't remember the details. Reading my own chat the night I made that Kark vote I voiced doubt and the next day I posted to hobohodo that I trusted Kark because it seemed more likely Blawl was scum caught in the headlights than Kark making up an elaborate trap. I still stand by that and additionally think the Splinter vote would have been a really stupid move for scum Kark. On a related note I'm also getting decent town vibes from Zipped, but I haven't made a detailed read thinking they were all but confirmed last night.

Going back to D2, I didn't voice out loud that I thought Blawl could be a neutral right away thinking that scum Blawl would probably use that as an opportunity to fake claim neutral. When Blarg had posted his massive post without any hints of being a neutral and some started openly voicing that possibility I posted something similar with the more likely scenario where Kark wasn't scum, but a neutral lyncher who could investigate if someone were his target.

The ability could be a night search for that target. The one I am thinking of is the hunter (I don't remember what his name was) in Night Vale who had to get a second neutral (this one had a night kill and a goal of killing x and y scum and town) lynched. He had the ability of investigating a person each night to see if they were his target or not.

It is possible Blawl have a neutral role with the goal of searching x of y or whatever while Karkhead can investigate for their target and found it in Blawl last night.
I've only thought if this because a scum/town means scum pulled a weird gambit for no reason The contradiction to this though is that I would assume neutral Blawl would have claimed years ago.

By this point though you can see I have already contradicted myself because it made almost no sense for neutral Blawl to avoid claim. Heck, it made a ton of sense for scum Blawl to claim neutral so that wouldn't really clear him either.

 

[Ourobolus]

This is such an Ourobolus game

I don't even know what this means

 

[Sorian]

I don't even know what this means

Basically it means that there is a 1 in 3 chance that it is actually a good game and well-designed.

 

[Karkador]

Well, if I keep blaming a moderator, they might all die, and then the game is over

 

[Karkador]

But seriously, I just mean that the humor of the flavor feels like Ourobolus. I'm not surprised that you've apparently taken over. Now to wait for a day vig to kill me.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

But seriously, I just mean that the humor of the flavor feels like Ourobolus. I'm not surprised that you've apparently taken over. Now to wait for a day vig to kill me.

Well, if I keep blaming a moderator, they might all die, and then the game is over

Kark, don't poke the bear even if he is being eaten by infinite...

 

[kingkitty]

some thoughts while eating lunch (chicken sandwich from kfc)

- I'm not a huge fan of boats splitting their votes on two contentious candidates at the end of the day phase. I understand if sometimes partners aren't seeing eye to eye, but it could be a decent scum strategy. If one candidate is scum, and the other is town, one-half of the scumboat could bus their fellow scumbro. The other half could throw their vote on the other candidate, in the hopes that town fucks itself away from the scumbro.

-Nearly everyone voted between splintercab, and klarg. And I think it's likely scum split their votes between these two. I agree with the sentiment that scum probably saw klarg as a lost cause, and was revving up the bus. However, once Karkendoor (who for now, I am looking at as town) started a rallying cry for cabsplinter, I have to wonder what scum was thinking. Besides klarg, maybe have some more scumbros follow along. Then once cabsplinter flips town, start the war against Karkendoor. But I think in the end, it's pretty likely scum spread their scum eggs evenly.

-Excited Leo won an Oscar

 

[Karkador]

I'm being scolded

 

[kingkitty]

I think in the end, it's pretty likely scum spread their scum eggs evenly.

*But anyways, as said before, it's likely scum didn't put all their scum eggs on one side or another. So we should obviously keep our eyes open on both sides. Especially if there were boat splits.

 

[Giant Panda]

El Topo and I had different votes because we see things differently and came to different conclusions. I don't see why pairs should be expected to always reach the same conclusions.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Based on the voting actions we've seen from the few confirmed pairs we have, we've seen voting together/apart from both scum and town pairs.

The only thing we can say for sure is that partners are more likely to vote together if they're in danger of being lynched.

 

[Gorlak]

You were the one following the flow of the votes, going with the bandwagon. Is everyone who is at the forefront of the voting process suspicious to you? Need I remind you that you also voted for *Splinter and cabot?

"Creating bandwagons" is utter nonsense, unless you actually believe that I have this power of persuasion over people. Blindly following the majority is just as dangerous as what you suggest.

I think you are scum. Do I really have to search for quotes that prove you incite people (ultraboo, hyperkitty, blawl, karkhead) to establish a bandwagon? Hell you even started yesterday by putting your vote down on cabot/splinter as the first one! YOU animated kawl, kark, zipped and blarg to change their votes and you can't even acknowledge it. That's pretty scummy to me.

 

[Karkador]

El Topo and I had different votes because we see things differently and came to different conclusions. I don't see why pairs should be expected to always reach the same conclusions.

It makes your vote in a 2-way tie situation a non-vote. It's a way for you guys to blend.

The other possible tactic a mafia pair could take is to throw both of of their votes onto a target to try to counterbalance against their teammate.

In either case, it's a balancing act.

 

[Karkador]

Based on the voting actions we've seen from the few confirmed pairs we have, we've seen voting together/apart from both scum and town pairs.

The only thing we can say for sure is that partners are more likely to vote together if they're in danger of being lynched.

And if their mafia teammates are in danger?

 

[Gorlak]

Based on the voting actions we've seen from the few confirmed pairs we have, we've seen voting together/apart from both scum and town pairs.

The only thing we can say for sure is that partners are more likely to vote together if they're in danger of being lynched.

Yeah. And who do you think is suspicious right now? Is there anyone you would vote atm?

 

[Giant Panda]

It makes your vote in a 2-way tie situation a non-vote. It's a way for you guys to blend.

The other possible tactic a mafia pair could take is to throw both of of their votes onto a target to try to counterbalance against their teammate.

In either case, it's a balancing act.

You seem to be saying that townie pairs should seek a consensus just for consensus's sake. I think it is better for pairs do go after their gut feelings. If they happen to overlap, then so be it. The ability to talk in quiet makes it more likely they will overlap than randomly picking two players and comparing their votes, but I don't think it makes it that much more likely.

 

[Karkador]

I also do agree with the idea that Blarg/Kawl were perhaps designated "expendable" from the start. Not that they were going to sacrifice their 3-shot Tracker on the first day, but they played as if that role had a limited shelf life. Claiming Miller has that risk.

I can see them throwing most of their weight on the Blarg lynch.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

And if their mafia teammates are in danger?

sorry, that was a response to KingKitty's theory about mafia pairs splitting their votes when teammates are in danger.

I probably should have quoted him.

I think the tally was too close to definitively say that.

 

[Karkador]

You seem to be saying that townie pairs should seek a consensus just for consensus's sake. I think it is better for pairs do go after their gut feelings. If they happen to overlap, then so be it. The ability to talk in quiet makes it more likely they will overlap than randomly picking two players and comparing their votes, but I don't think it makes it that much more likely.

No, it's not just for "consensus's sake". You're playing with someone you can talk things out with and trust. I'm not saying you wont disagree, but splitting your actual vote effectively weakens your own voting power in the game. It would be like having 1/2 a vote in a regular, non-paired game.

However, splitting votes is a good tool for pairs who want to look as if they're actively accusing and pressing other players, but it's actually pulling your punches.

 

[Giant Panda]

If town-tracker-Kark tracked town-Miller-x-shot-tracker-blarg on n1 then town was dealt a game over.

Or wait was Kark the x shot one? I don't remember it's not important anyway.

What Ty4on pointed out about batsnacks got me thinking. This comment, along with batsnacks's flawed schemes to get Blawl confirmed as town on day 1 seem pretty scummy in hindsight. His partner MagnumBoy20xx has gone completely under the radar.

Vote: batsnacks

 

[Gorlak]

Gorlak, check out my post, #2964

ty.

I have the feeling we are lacking real hunches here.

Hobohodo, why didn't you vote yesterday?

Hobohodo, Dusk Soldier, MagnumBoy20xx, TL21xx, Karu ~ please try to play the game. I'm certain one of you is scum, there always is a low activity, hiding, scum coaster.

 

[Giant Panda]

No, it's not just for "consensus's sake". You're playing with someone you can talk things out with and trust. I'm not saying you wont disagree, but splitting your actual vote effectively weakens your own voting power in the game. It would be like having 1/2 a vote in a regular, non-paired game.

However, splitting votes is a good tool for pairs who want to look as if they're actively accusing and pressing other players, but it's actually pulling your punches.

Well I'm not going to vote who my partner voted for if I don't agree with his conclusions. Doing so would be actually weakening my voting power. Additionally, trying to find some consensus lynch candidate between my partner and I is a terrible idea. I think it's best if each partner is free to pursue whoever they personally feel is the best lynch candidate.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Also El Topo and Giant Panda breadcrumbing blocked chat does not confirm they are town, are you all insane? That would be the easiest mafia play.

Regarding this, it has been bothering me. No offense, El Topo, but you don't exactly seem like the kind of player that would pocket something like that. If anything, I would have expected you to come out with it immediately.

 

[Ty4on]

El Topo and I had different votes because we see things differently and came to different conclusions. I don't see why pairs should be expected to always reach the same conclusions.

I second this. My partner's opinion is valuable because I know they're town, but that hasn't stopped us from disagreeing. She wasn't here when the votes flipped, but in our chat Sophia tended to town read Cabot and Splinter despite me disagreeing.

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Reading that chat though I saw Sophia voicing suspicion on Gorlak-Launch and Boo-Jay.
Never Forever summarized their pair's thoughts in this post:

We think Kark is a numbskull, but he's Town

top scum are BooJay and GorlakMcQ

I haven't gone through all of Splinter and Cabot's posts for thoughts, but some of Splinter's suspects D2 were:

My vote for today will remain on Blarg (unless we approach turbo).

My other top suspects:

Gorpad - has a massive hate-boner for my sweet self. Actually wondering if this is a neutral lyncher.

Floppanuva - already mentioned that Flame's posts today seem to be avoiding taking a stance. Lots of questions asked but attributed to other players. Coppa has been better today but also had a very sketchy day one.

TLCam - Their votes yesterday stand out to me a little, but I can't draw any solid conclusions there until we get some more flips. Cam's posts today have been very off. Critisizing Flux' claim, blaming him for NeverTim's lynch. It seems more policy lynch than serious scum accusation. He's also been arguing for the cop to out himself, a terrible idea at this stage, but I can't tell if it's malicious or just playing to a different meta.

Post Splinter votes:

Well after this nonsense I'd probably put Kark over Blarg, but not enough to vote for him. 2 reasons:

1) I meant what I said earlier about not shifting the vote. Blarg has been selected by a majority, I consider this an extended dusk phase.
2) It's also possible that Kark's actions have been motivated by emotion rather than logic. I don't know him well enough to make that call.

Besides that, Flame has shot up again for supporting this idea to stack the trackers. Stupidest thing I've read all game and I can't imagine how anyone could support it.

I didn't have a scum read on either last night, but this is making me worried about them. Especially Gorlak and Launch as I have a stronger town read on BooJay for their reactions in D2.
Looking back at Gorlak there was some weird flip flopping:

Come on, boy. Endless speech about how you are the honest tracker and Kark/Zipped try to steal your show.

Than you randomly vote Flux for whatever reason...

I'm juggling the thought of lynching Flux for his horrible play. Seriously that was awful. I want you dead.

If we let both claimed trackers survive, what is the worst case?
Both won't have the same alignment. Scum won't kill the town tracker, unless the second one is a neutral, in that case you should reveal yourselves - because if one tracker pair ends up dead tonight, the other is a goner.
In case they both survive, they will have to reveal information. That could lead to more outed PRs, which is bad. On the other hand they can't make up shit all the time and will get contradicted at some point?
But we let one semi-confirmed scum pair survive on purpose, which is really bad...

I don't know what to do.

Either Blawl or Karzip is lying. One is probably a watcher or another observing power, two trackers is lazy design and unlikely with only 15 roles.

The weird shift in tone makes me think it's fabricated, but I agree with Kark that it's very possible scum just bussed Blawl and never looked back hoping we would lynch those who doubted.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Well I'm not going to vote who my partner voted for if I don't agree with his conclusions. Doing so would be actually weakening my voting power. Additionally, trying to find some consensus lynch candidate between my partner and I is a terrible idea. I think it's best if each partner is free to pursue whoever they personally feel is the best lynch candidate.

Bizarre. If you guys wanted to keep the chat bomb under wraps, wouldn't you at least feign like you had been conversing and trying to coordinate your votes?

 

[Ty4on]

I didn't have a scum read on either last night, but this is making me worried about them. Especially Gorlak and Launch as I have a stronger town read on BooJay for their reactions in D2.

*By either I mean Gorlak-Launch and Boo-Jay

 

[Giant Panda]

Bizarre. If you guys wanted to keep the chat bomb under wraps, wouldn't you at least feign like you had been conversing and trying to coordinate your votes?

First, we couldn't talk to each other privately to coordinate some plan like that. Second, we had no reason to. I decided not to bring it up until we had the chance to talk it over. Our goal wasn't to hide it, just to not mention it.

 

[Kyanrute]

Continuing on from #3056, the best mafia play imo would be doing all and everything at the same time. The group is harder to identify when its actions do not resemble a group. Luckily though, the votes themselves can be arranged to groups. Doing things again~

Pairs who did not split votes:

On Blawl:

1. [m] Kingkitty & [m] Hyperactivity
3. [m] Timeaisis & [m] FluxWaveZ
4. [m] LaunchPadMcQ & [m] Gorlak
9. [m] TL21xx & [m] Camjo-Z NEW
10. [m] MagnumBoy20xx & [m] batsnacks

On Splibot:

7. [m] Coppanuva & [m] Flame_AC

Pairs who split votes:

6. [m] UltraJay & [m] Boo Boo'n
13. [m] El Topo & [m] Giant Panda

Pairs who did something else:

11. [m] Dusk Soldier & [m] Karu
12. [m] Kyanrute NEW & [m] Retroid
15. [m] hobohodo & [m] Ty4on

The consensus seems to be that there are 2-3 mafia pairs left, I know shit about balance so I’ll just go with that. I think it is likely that the scum pairs varied their actions. Perhaps one pair was unified against Blawl while another pair split their vote. And if there is a third pair still, maybe they went on Splibot or voted for someone else entirely. I feel it would be risky to behave similarily, unless scum went full on Blawl. The conclusion from all this would be that there is at max one scum in the split votes group, if even that. I wouldn't apply this logic to the "other" group, because the circumstances were different with each pair there.

This post ends with question time! YAAAAAY.

Coppa and Flame, did you discuss your choice of vote before voting? What made you so sure to go Splibot over Blawl?
Karu, why did your vote stay on Karkador and Zipped all the way to the end of day two? What do you think of them now?
Dusk Soldier, you were late to the Splibot party. What made you change your vote?
hobo. say something. please?

 

[Gorlak]

I didn't have a scum read on either last night, but this is making me worried about them. Especially Gorlak and Launch as I have a stronger town read on BooJay for their reactions in D2.
Looking back at Gorlak there was some weird flip flopping:

The weird shift in tone makes me think it's fabricated, but I agree with Kark that it's very possible scum just bussed Blawl and never looked back hoping we would lynch those who doubted.

Okay, what exactly do you want to tell us? Can you elaborate your thoughts on me & launch a bit more?

 

[Ty4on]

Okay, what exactly do you want to tell us? Can you elaborate your thoughts on me & launch a bit more?

I really don't have a lot. Like I said I paid little attention to you last night because I was tunneled on Cabinter and before that I also didn't make much of a read on you.

But could you explain your thoughts of D2 and why you went from doubting Blawl to turboing them? I know Launch told you to turbo him, but you wouldn't have done it if you disagreed.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

First, we couldn't talk to each other privately to coordinate some plan like that. Second, we had no reason to. I decided not to bring it up until we had the chance to talk it over. Our goal wasn't to hide it, just to not mention it.

Even more strange is the fact that you both decided to do the same thing instead of bringing it up. True, it was a cautious approach, but you didn't even acknowledge your partners attempts to reach out. Did you legitimately miss them, ignore them, or were you two just putting on a show?

I thought about it, but I decided against it for several reasons:
1. I was not 100% sure that it was a mafia ability, i.e. revealing it could have been helpful information to mafia, which I assume relies very heavily on the chat.
2. I had not talked much with Panda, so I was not sure about his stance.
3. I asked Panda vaguely in this thread if we should reveal it, see here. I assume he missed said question, thus I did not bring it up again.
4. I did not want distract from the Blarg/Kark debate.
5. I did not want (directly) reveal that their attempt worked, although cautious mafia surely must have noticed it, not the least because I asked Panda twice in this thread (here and here).

 

[Karkador]

I'm a little curious about something: why do we call it a chat bomb?

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I really don't have a lot. Like I said I paid little attention to you last night because I was tunneled on Cabinter and before that I also didn't make much of a read on you.

But could you explain your thoughts of D2 and why you went from doubting Blawl to turboing them? I know Launch told you to turbo him, but you wouldn't have done it if you disagreed.

He didn't tell me if he agreed, but we had discussed the events transpiring. He'd been locked onto Splintbot for some time. I agreed with his hunch, but I was locked in on testing the Blawl claim. I asked him to turbo; he did it before responding he would. Not sure if he actually did it because I asked, to be honest.

Also, you have to admit, my actions don't line up with me being on the same team as Blawl. Blarg was discounting my opinion all day yesterday. Sure, that could have been a ruse, but I weighed my action carefully way before the bandwagon had started. Moreover, Blarg was trying to group myself and Kark together when we both used the phrase "interesting". It seems insignificant, but he might have been trying to build something against me on smaller actions.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I'm a little curious about something: why do we call it a chat bomb?

I'm going to look bad if I guess this right, but maybe you guys are getting cock-blocked

 

[Timeaisis]

I don't understand this concept of "chat bomb" to begin with.

 

[Karkador]

It seems my partner used the phrase "Conversation Bomb" (what a proper fellow), and then El Topo and Giant Panda used "Chat Block", then people started saying Chat Bomb