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Star Fox Zero Delayed to Q1 2016
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TDLink
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Honestly this seems reactionary/"panic mode" from him more than anything due to the new Direct announcement.
Lol. I love this gifWhat the hell is happening in this thread?
Yeah, it reads as a 'I woke up, saw the Direct announcement and need to keep people interested in what I say' kinda thing, without any indication as to how/when Directs are made before they're announced/shown.
Spieler Eins
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,,I'm making shit up, now see me vaguely spinning empty words in ways I couldn't end up being wrong. /ihavesources,believe"
How hard is it to believe that he has a source that can give him this information? Unless you guys also think the videos he makes about cancelled games have made up sources as well. I don't follow him too closely, but he's never said anything that indicates that he doesn't actually know someone working at NoE, at the very least.
Considering there's a Direct tomorrow, 2 things
1 - He would've mentioned a Direct was coming soon-ish
2 - The call to delay SF0 would have already been made before filming for this Direct began
This is a completely reactionary response by him given the timing of the Direct announcement and his tweets soon thereafter.
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Errr, 'panic mode!!!' if the current build it as poor as this statement makes out then hell no dont release the game, wait until its actually good
Well I do have this one uncle ...
A Link to the Past
Banned
Hey, at least we got games after Adventures. The only game since 2006 that's released is an enhanced port of an N64 game.
TDLink
Member
Yup. I think he's been peddling off good will for a while. Maybe he does know someone on the Star Fox QA team but he's gotten a lot wrong in the last few months. Remember Shovel Knight in Smash?
These tweets are 100% bullshit. They show no understanding for how Directs work. Any decision on content to feature in the Direct would already have been made quite some time ago. And the Direct was almost certainly completely finished prior to this announcement. Possibly as early as last week. I suspect the Pokémon Announcement was pulled out of it (for some reason).
Star Fox info in the direct whether it is delayed or still releasing in April is pretty close to 100% and everyone with half a brain can see that. So this tweet is merely him covering his own lying ass.
And?????????? Do tell.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
They don't have to bring back all of the "terminated" character VA since SF643D. They could pretty much just hire anyone else like they did in Brawl. Also I mean seriously, are you saying that Orbital Gate was fine because the secret dialog not only is haphazard (requires you NOT to have Fox or Falco in it), but it only has I think one or two different dialog chain, and it ignores what happened in that stage itself in the original game. Like Green Mamba said, it is essentially the "Star Fox Zero-ing" of Assault as you don't see Krystal, Peppy is piloting, and don't see Star Wolf (which let me remind you, played a major role in the stage).
Now this is conspiracy crap spouting and I doubt it is true, but I think Miyamoto had a hand in how the Star Fox would be handled and this stage originally had actual Assault stuff but they said no and had them removed to feature the "classic" gang, causing a jarring tone of SF64 characters trying to talk over Assault's stage.
theechrisfox
Member
Hopefully its just delayed to coincide with production of Slippy and Chicken Walker amiibos.
GabeTheGrouch76
Member
If Star Fox Zero is delayed, I honestly hope it's pushed all the way back to the holiday season (presumably after Zelda U's release), if not 2017 (or beyond / moving it to the NX) outright.
To me it looks like they're tried to milk too much mileage from a low-budget experimental project and --if the rumors are true-- it's now proven to take its toll on the gameplay. The dual perspective rendering of the game for both the GamePad and the TV seems to be way too resource-intensive for its own good, and whatever gameplay benefits it brings is outweighed by the game's presentation and performance.
They really should had saved it for another project (presumably, this was going to be used for the Miyamoto's remaining Project Giant Robot / Project Guard games) or lowered the scope of SFZ to a resource-light spinoff for the eShop; rather than a new retail entry. Especially considering how many other corners they've cut as it is: no multiplayer, compromised graphics, revisiting same locations --lol "it's not a sequel, but not a remake either"--, etc.
That said, I honestly wouldn't put it past Nintendo to pull another MT: Ultra Smash and AC: Amiibo Crossing and just bite the bullet so the game can make its April release date and give the Wii U something (other than Pokken and presumably #FE) for the Spring season. Regardless of whatever permanent damage it brings to an IP already on shaky ground as it is...
To me it looks like they're tried to milk too much mileage from a low-budget experimental project and --if the rumors are true-- it's now proven to take its toll on the gameplay. The dual perspective rendering of the game for both the GamePad and the TV seems to be way too resource-intensive for its own good, and whatever gameplay benefits it brings is outweighed by the game's presentation and performance.
They really should had saved it for another project (presumably, this was going to be used for the Miyamoto's remaining Project Giant Robot / Project Guard games) or lowered the scope of SFZ to a resource-light spinoff for the eShop; rather than a new retail entry. Especially considering how many other corners they've cut as it is: no multiplayer, compromised graphics, revisiting same locations --lol "it's not a sequel, but not a remake either"--, etc.
That said, I honestly wouldn't put it past Nintendo to pull another MT: Ultra Smash and AC: Amiibo Crossing and just bite the bullet so the game can make its April release date and give the Wii U something (other than Pokken and presumably #FE) for the Spring season. Regardless of whatever permanent damage it brings to an IP already on shaky ground as it is...
TheBaldEmperor
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Really? Panic Mode... If this game is shown in the direct then Liam/Tamaki can get bent. He says so much stuff that is piggy-backing of other reliable people or says things that can almost never be proven false.
SilverLunar
Member
I stopped believing anything that guy says ever since the Shovel Knight Smash drama he pulled.
It just cemented his 'attention grabber' status.
"whoa a Direct!? Better spin my story to include this!"
It just cemented his 'attention grabber' status.
"whoa a Direct!? Better spin my story to include this!"
DrROBschiz
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Sammy Samusu
Member
I don't need a random Twitter fan to tell me this game is going to suck and is in development hell. I gave the tea months ago.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1159796
I'm sorry for the fans but it is what it is.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1159796
I'm sorry for the fans but it is what it is.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh yeah, how come no one roasted him for that? In fact I noticed people still believe in him after that.
Glass Rebel
Member
I wouldn't mind the game being scrapped altogether if it isn't up to snuff. From what I've seen so far it looks like it could be solid but that's it. If the rumours surrounding it are true, however, I simply don't see any point in continuing down this path.
Scrap the game, remove Miyamoto from it, reassemble the Sin & Punishment 2 team and go from there.
Scrap the game, remove Miyamoto from it, reassemble the Sin & Punishment 2 team and go from there.
ProtomanNeo
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Seeing as the Wii U is lame duck I don't see why this isn't delayed and launched on the NX to help bolster its launch.
Having sources doesn't prevent people from making shit up occasionally. In this case, whether or not there'll be a meeting at NCL is under normal circumstances impossible to prove either way, so that he doesn't have to fear a rebuttal from anyone.
However, the Direct got in the way and it makes him sound very fishy.
If Star Fox Zero is on track for its April release, it will be prominently featured in the Direct. After all, it would be one of their biggest games coming out in the next few months. Since it's rather unlikely that Nintendo plans, films and cuts Directs just a day before they air ("rather unlikely" is being optimistic here: coordinating the content between the Japanese, American and European branches in the span of just 24 hours would be kinda insane and a recipe for disaster), you can be almost certain that whatever they show is already set in stone. There's no reason to hurry the Direct out of the door - it's not like Nintendo is following a schedule with these shows -, so if they are about to make a decision on Star Fox, they would likely rather delay the Direct by a week in order to be entirely sure about the PR message they are about to convey.
Sure, it's possible that he's right - after all, it's impossible to prove either way -, but it sounds like a rather unlikely situation.
What are you saying? it is totally believable that N is in panic mode rght now, the decision will be taken tonight and the Direct footage will be recorded and arranged durng the Direct iself.
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Nintendo could totally decide to delay the game, but these specific rumors are bullshit.
If the game is to be released on April 18, the manufacturing and distributing channels take more than 1 month for a ww release. So, if the game will be delayed, THEY ALREDY DECIDED TO DELAY IT.
On amazon.co.uk, it was removed at some point between Dec. 29 2015 and today:
edit: There aren't enough snapshots for amazon.de and amazon.fr. But the April date is still present on amazon.it.
Movalpolos
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I certainly hope hot. I'm not buying a NX, and neither will most people.
Glass Rebel
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There will be more people with a NX than a Wii U.
If the game still isn't ready to be released, then I don't think investing another 6 months in order to make it an NX launch game are going to change things up significantly. Porting it to NX (which likely won't have the tablet controller) would cause an entirely new set of issues and at some point you just end up polishing a turd anyway.
Do you think a potentially mediocre Star Fox would help NX in any way? It bolsters its launch line-up, but is that really building up trust in the platform if the underlying game isn't good?
Movalpolos
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Doubt it.
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What a conveniently timed revelation. Now there's no way for him to be wrong. Great!
Amazon.it still have the date.
but it is normal: they are going to decide TONIGHT if delaying it or not, don't you have read the rumors?
*once again: if the are delaying it, it's not going to be decided today. it has already been decided. those "milestones" dont' make sense
Glass Rebel
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There's no reason to believe that a platform which will have all of Nintendo's development strength behind it will sell less than the Wii U but sure, doubt away!
Movalpolos
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What? Isn't that what just happened with the Wii U?
I don't think another delay will do much, unless it's ported to the NX. It's hamstrung by the gamepad, which is the core mechanic. It's also clear that it was supposed to be out the door as fast as possible. It needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, and that's not happening unless they can it. Presumably they thought they could get away with building off of something they prototyped in the Wii era, and slap some gamepad controls on it, and now it's blowing up in their face.
Unfortunate for fans of this series, they've pretty much been treated like crap for a long time now.
Regarding the rumors, it wouldn't be surprising given the state of the game, and ShockingAlberto's comments the other day.
Barry Burton
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Pretty presumptuous of both of you, considering we still know very little about NX. I wouldn't even begin to venture a guess as to how successful it will or won't be, not right now.
Already Torn
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I guess the idea is that they were still working on 3DS when they released Wii U? But 3DS didn't sell well at first either.
This game is stuck between:
Delay: "F**k you Nintendo I bought a WiiU under the pretense that I would get Starfox next month! Is this how they treat their loyal customers?!"
and
Release: "This game looks rubbish and was clearly not ready for release. Is this how they treat their loyal customers?!"
Delay: "F**k you Nintendo I bought a WiiU under the pretense that I would get Starfox next month! Is this how they treat their loyal customers?!"
and
Release: "This game looks rubbish and was clearly not ready for release. Is this how they treat their loyal customers?!"
Movalpolos
Banned
It will fail worse than the Wii U if it releases this fiscal year. The competition is too strong.
Only people buying it will be "core" Nintendo fans.
Magic Mushroom
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The Wii U is a sunken ship.
Give Platinum the time and creative freedom to turn this into a really cool NX game. Scratch that Gamepad stuff and make something that does justice to Star Fox and Star Fox 64.
Give Platinum the time and creative freedom to turn this into a really cool NX game. Scratch that Gamepad stuff and make something that does justice to Star Fox and Star Fox 64.
Already Torn
Banned
Maybe now Nintendo will only let Miyamoto make Pikmin games, since that's the only thing he's good at.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Yeah, that makes no sense. They will announce it in the Direct if anything, which is pre-produced. Then I saw it was this guy saying this, yikes. He's not a real source.
Nope. Nintendo's development output was firmly split between console and handheld. The idea with NX is to remove that particular problem.