I guess... I was kinda filling in the blanks with stuff being similar to MS' suggested approach. However, there's nothing about this that sounds 32X like so far at all. The 32X wasn't a more powerful Genesis. It was a basically a console that lived on top of a console, and had like 5 worthwhile games in its life.
I dont have to buy it.
I have control.
Nope. You have the USB ports and the HDMI ports and that is it. Nothing fast enough to handle the bandwidth requirements of a better GPU and CPU. Not like an old school consoles that had those "expansion ports". Thunderbolt has the bandwidth to handle it, but USB does not.
PSY・S;198617581 said:i feel like jeff rigby mentioned something about this at one point
PSY・S;198617581 said:i feel like jeff rigby mentioned something about this at one point
Supposing Xbox One+ releases in 2017, why don't Sony wait for 2018 and release a more powerful PS5 to have the upperhand for another generation?
Let Microsoft deal with the problems of launching mid gen. Xbox One+ wouldn't have real next gen games made for it because that would piss OG XBO users off, and there wouldn't be enough XBO+s out there to justify games taking advantage of it's power.
Then, before XBO+ reaches a big enough userbase, Sony could release a more powerful PS5 which is backwards compatible with the PS4 just in time for the first next gen games.
It makes sense to me.
Actually I have this crazy theory that MS will do just that. They'll come out with an improved SKU that has more hardware capabilities. Devs will be required to support both SKUs, but that shouldn't be hard since the new SKU will have a similar architecture just better specs. Games on the new SKU would be able to run at greater resolution and image quality, better FPS, and/or support VR.
It'll be just like PC development now except with only two configurations to target. In fact I expect Sony to do the same. I think the industry has now standardised on X86 design so all future releases will simply improve on that architecture. Backwards compatibility will be a given.
and here I just got a ps4 thinking I was ok on the console front for a few years. guess I shouldn't be surprised, gen is already running on fumes
i don't like this, man. i don't fucking like this.The article states its now so common knowledge around devs at this point thay people are just walking around GDC talking about it.
So if accurate then yeah, its not so much a secret anymore
If a more powerful iteration of the PS4 hits the market and you have games that are "only playable on PS4.5" then it seems at that point just call it a PS5 and have it fully backwards compatible. You'll at least avoid a nightmare scenario with uninformed consumers buying something that won't run on their machine at home.
Also, this.
Wow at so called gamers saying no.... This should be in the ready for this holiday for us gamers that want 4K gaming.. I work hard and will purchase hard to enjoy my down time.... Enough of the 1080P,we are in 2016...
If tt costs 500-600 to upgrade or whatever, at least we have a choice and would be day 1...
The world is ever changing.
V has come to.
Supposing Xbox One+ releases in 2017, why don't Sony wait for 2018 and release a more powerful PS5 to have the upperhand for another generation?
Let Microsoft deal with the problems of launching mid gen. Xbox One+ wouldn't have real next gen games made for it because that would piss OG XBO users off, and there wouldn't be enough XBO+s out there to justify games taking advantage of it's power.
Then, before XBO+ reaches a big enough userbase, Sony could release a more powerful PS5 which is backwards compatible with the PS4 just in time for the first next gen games.
It makes sense to me.
why would sony be worried? nobody flocked to xbox just because it was more powerful.
Even if MS launches a new Xbox more powerful than PS4, I don't see PS4 sales slowing down. It's too late, Sony has the momentum, everyone is on PS4, all your friends are on PS4, you're not gonna switch for just extra power.
Consoles are going the way of PCs as predicted. The obly differientiator is going to be software and ecosystem eventually
So far no one is confirmed to be taking that approach just vague allusions to maybe. But the intrinsic business problem of convincing devs/publishers and convincing consumers is the insurmountable road block.
The console cycle is ~6-7 years because the devs/publishers business cycle and consumers desire to move is around there.
It'll have as much support as the New 3ds is getting exclusive games. It won't. Unless it really is as simple as devs pushing a button to make their existing 900p30 games play in 4k60.
The console business doesn't work this way. Mid gen power upgrades are ignored by publishers because the publishers/devs don't have a great incentive to target it. The install base is too small. A lack of support means consumers don't want it. As hardware is not the ends, it's a means to an end for most console consumers.
It's a catch 22.
Generation shifts work because the platform holder shoves all the devs to the next platform. Saying old one is done, game sales have dropped to almost zero. Make games for the new one.
Without that shove and the consumers actually moving over the product is just a different and often more expensive SKU which everyone ignores. From the NEW 3DS to PSP+ to DSi to Gameboy color to TG duo etc... It's never worked out.
Also making a game and having it scale for 2 different targets takes work.
Except the same publishers do fine with PCs (certain WB games excluded) somehow and have done that for many years. It didn't work before because freaking console architecture kept changing. With x86 and same APIs/OS, it's a lot more simple.
Wow at so called gamers saying no.... This should be in the ready for this holiday for us gamers that want 4K gaming.. I work hard and will purchase hard to enjoy my down time.... Enough of the 1080P,we are in 2016...
If tt costs 500-600 to upgrade or whatever, at least we have a choice and would be day 1...
I want to believe.
And the fact that console gaming costs you more, and it's not modular, and you're paying for services, and you're locked to only one ecosystem. But yeah.
So Zedox, here we meet again
Like I've said in the Xbox Upgrade thread...Sony will react.
Here we are, I'm still very surprised by the news and we can't even say for sure who started this (maybe MS got some info beforehand and started the whole upgrade talk).
To push VR this makes absolutely sense, because the PS4 can't handle
AAA games @ 2X1080p + >60FPS
As a PS4 owner I stand by my point, the console upgrade idea made the Xbox even less attractive to me and now the PS4X follows the same path. I have built a new PC some days ago and I can see myself not owning consoles in the future now.
Man, I hate this Sony.
Can we stop fragmenting PS4 game development?
First party studios will have to focus between PS4, PS4.5 and VR? Time for bed, Sony.
Do you really have an attachment to your current console? They are just x86 pcs. If you have back compat and don't lose saves why do you care about your console.
This isn't the old days. These boxes aren't special anymore.
You get shipped a new one with a return box for the old. If you fail to return it within a timely manner they either charge your card or brick the new box.
They better off a free or reduced upgrade to current PS4 owners, or I can see Sony losing a LOT of customers.
Have we seen any advancements from AMD suggesting there's an APU that exists today (or will in the near future) that would be powerful enough to play games at 4K and fit in a console sized box?