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With Season 3, Killer Instinct has grown into the "people's champ" of fighting games

The odds were really stacked against this game.

It's a Western developed fighting game that actually stands up to Street Fighter mechanically. And let's be real, KI1 and KI2 were kinda trash.
 

Caydel

Neo Member
Killer Instinct is absolutely amazing. It deserves more recognition.

Does this make Smash the John Cena of fighting games?
 

Razzorn34

Member
We all know SF5 will still coast by on the Street Fighter name, no matter how much Capcom screws up...

Want to have a circlejerk KI thread? So be it. I like KI as well. But don't act like this game didn't have a rocky as hell start, and is somehow absolved of it by being currently successful.
 

webkatt

Member
I want Season 3 but I find it hard to swallow at $40 for the ultimate.

I have ultimate season 1 and 2 and was hoping for some discount as a previous buyer.
 
I want Season 3 but I find it hard to swallow at $40 for the ultimate.

I have ultimate season 1 and 2 and was hoping for some discount as a previous buyer.

It's even harder to swallow when you can buy all three Ultimate versions in a bundle for $60. That's an amazing deal but it makes Season 3's Ultimate edition seem overpriced.
 

mcrommert

Banned
The supreme edition has all the content from seasons 1-3, with the exception of Shadow Jago, I believe. $50 on PC, $60 for consoles.

£44.99 for the complete package on xbox. PC should be slightly cheaper (doesn't include KI 1 & 2)

You can of course always buy from a different region too

If you get pc version you can also get shadow jago for 10 and have everything in the game for 60 bucks
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
The odds were really stacked against this game.

It's a Western developed fighting game that actually stands up to Street Fighter mechanically. And let's be real, KI1 and KI2 were kinda trash.

I played the arcade version of KI2 the other day. It is fucking TERRIBLE.
 

watdaeff4

Member
I just started playing Season 1 this month, it has been a pleasant surprise and has given me a lot of the SP needs that I was missing from SFV.

Personally, the way I see it, KI trumps SFV in single player aspects, period. Period. I think only a die-hard SFV
or Sony
fanboy would disagree with this.

In regards to actual, gameplay mechanics, I like SFV better and feel it's more refined and 'smoother' for lack of a better term. I also feel that getting a MP win is more thrilling for me in SFV than in KI as from my relatively limited experience with KI (about 10 hours) it over-emphasizes and over-simplifies the combos. (Though take with a grain of salt as again I have about 10 hours in KI and probably a 100 hours in SFV).

IF SFV is able to beef up it's SP to the level of KI is now, IMO it will be a much better game than KI.

Both are great though.
 

Eidan

Member
Um, its F2P but you can buy everything like a normal game. All the F2P aspects amount to is a demo. It just has a flexible pricing scheme. You can buy all the stuff at once for $60, buy the seasons individually, or buy the characters piecemeal if you choose. Buying ultra or supreme editions come with extras like premium costumes


That's all that needs to be said.
 

ScOULaris

Member
I played the arcade version of KI2 the other day. It is fucking TERRIBLE.

Yeah. I can still enjoy KI1 on nostalgia alone, but I've never liked KI2. I didn't even like it when it first released despite having been a mega-fan of KI1.

The new KI is miles better than either, however. No doubt about that.
 

DarkOneX

Member
It's a pretty cool game but it really feels to me like too much of a button mashing game, I'd rather play a game like MKX or hell even SF where you have actual moves instead of just pulling off combos by mashing the buttons like crazy. Maybe it's just me.
 
Everything the OP said plus I legit think that KI has some of the best character designs in the genre. Every character feels unique and I think each of the aesthetically are really well designed too. I feel like I need to spotlight the female characters especially who (perhaps Sadira aside) feel appropriately dressed for kicking ass and don't feel like fanservice for its own sake.
 

Somnia

Member
It's a pretty cool game but it really feels to me like too much of a button mashing game, I'd rather play a game like MKX or hell even SF where you have actual moves instead of just pulling off combos by mashing the buttons like crazy. Maybe it's just me.

Good luck winning by just button mashing when you play people who are good at the game.
 

Strider

Member
I was told something similar by some friends and decided to give the PC version of this game a try despite not playing fighting games (outside of the occasional Smash) since I was a kid... They just never clicked with me for whatever reason.

Anyway I love this game... I feel like it does a great job through tutorials and combo assist mode to help really bad players like me get introduced into the genre. It's simple enough so new players can have their fun, but there's enough depth so the competitve players can enjoy the game too.

KI has actually made me want to go out and try some other fighting games as well just to see what I've been missing out on. I definitely recommend checking the game out.
 

Neiteio

Member
I'm not really a fighting game fan outside of Smash and a bit of MvC3, but this sounds great. Especially the netcode, training mode and the combos that are fun but have a lower execution barrier.

I also still have a lot of love for the SNES games, which I don't think are particularly good but man, they had tons of personality. And that black cartridge for KI2 was ace.
 

Alric

Member
Just upgraded to Win10 last week and one of the first things I did was download KI3. Haven't payed for it yet and have only been able to play as Jaggo and Saber Wolf but it really plays nice. Been playing with the 360 controller some but it's not hitting the spot for a fighting game like this. Anyone else got a better suggestion for a gamepad or stick for the PC?
I'm in no rush because of Dark Souls 3 today but in the near future I definitely want to purchase the full game/roster and just want a better control scheme.
 

shoreu

Member
It's a pretty cool game but it really feels to me like too much of a button mashing game, I'd rather play a game like MKX or hell even SF where you have actual moves instead of just pulling off combos by mashing the buttons like crazy. Maybe it's just me.

Button mashing does not get you far at all in this game. Hell once you learn the breaker system you'll never be beat by it.
 
It really is pretty amazing. I can't really play it myself due to not even having the fine motor skills god gave a penguin, but I enjoy tooling around in singleplayer a lot, and the watching it is a joy. Shadow Lords is probably gonna be badass.

Only thing it's really missing is character-specific Dojos. Everything else is aces.
 

Razzorn34

Member
I played the arcade version of KI2 the other day. It is fucking TERRIBLE.

It's another one of those you had to be there for. KI and KI2 were both great games for the times they were around. KI Gold on N64 as well. No, they aren't great in today's climate, but pretty much everything but SF2 fails in that respect.
 

mcrommert

Banned
I just started playing Season 1 this month, it has been a pleasant surprise and has given me a lot of the SP needs that I was missing from SFV.

Personally, the way I see it, KI trumps SFV in single player aspects, period. Period. I think only a die-hard SFV
or Sony
fanboy would disagree with this.

In regards to actual, gameplay mechanics, I like SFV better and feel it's more refined and 'smoother' for lack of a better term. I also feel that getting a MP win is more thrilling for me in SFV than in KI as from my relatively limited experience with KI (about 10 hours) it over-emphasizes and over-simplifies the combos. (Though take with a grain of salt as again I have about 10 hours in KI and probably a 100 hours in SFV).

IF SFV is able to beef up it's SP to the level of KI is now, IMO it will be a much better game than KI.

Both are great though.

I am not an expert on fighting games (far from it) but i have enjoyed the odd game of ki since launch

But hearing that KI can be spoken in the same breathe as SF is absolutely crazy to me...Well done Iron Galaxy and Microsoft
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
The combo thing is strange to gripe about in this game given how easy it is to do big damage in SF5. The execution needed to get 35-40% on a CC or jump in is pretty damn low. Don't forget about punishing with super either.
 

ekim

Member
While we are at it. How does the combo assist mode work? I see the popups but have no idea what they are telling me. lol
 

T.O.P

Banned
The odds were really stacked against this game.

It's a Western developed fighting game that actually stands up to Street Fighter mechanically. And let's be real, KI1 and KI2 were kinda trash.

Yup, i was so fuckin surprised when i got to play it again last year lol

Such a turn around :)
 

fhqwhgads

Member
Best mechanics, best character design, best soundtrack
It's become my replacement for Darkstalkers. By now I've kind of got over it, since given the treatment of SFV I know that Darkstalkers 4 would probably suffer the same fate.
 

smisk

Member
Keep hearing good things about this, and the fact that it's free to try is great. Definitely gonna check it out once I upgrade to Win 10 (been putting it off on my desktop PC)
 

ScOULaris

Member
Best mechanics, best character design, best soundtrack
It's become my replacement for Darkstalkers. By now I've kind of got over it, since given the treatment of SFV I know that Darkstalkers 4 would probably suffer the same fate.
I do find it to be a sort of accidental spiritual successor to Darkstalkers in terms of its cast and speed. I like how it mixes some of the darker tone of western-developed fighters with the tight, technical feel of the best Japanese ones.

And then in terms of sound design it's peerless on either side of the pond.
 

vg260

Member
Best mechanics, best character design, best soundtrack
It's become my replacement for Darkstalkers. By now I've kind of got over it, since given the treatment of SFV I know that Darkstalkers 4 would probably suffer the same fate.

Yeah, same. This game scratches the monster trope itch for me, so while I wanted a new Darkstalkers game, I'm pretty much over the idea of it possibly never coming back.
 

El Sloth

Banned
Doesn't seem like there's much reason to not give it a shot if you have Windows 10 or own a Xbone. It's free to try after all.

I heard of matchmaking problems in the PC version, is it resolved now ?
Ultradavid said he thought it had the best matchmaking of any game out right now on the last UltraChen. Take that for what you will. I've never played the game myself tho.
 
It's a great game, I feel like it's starting to show its age though.

Still immensely playable, still enjoyable and probably the best success story of the gen so far until we see Shenmue 3 complete development or something :p Whoda thunk it.

Matchmaking is rough, but they just did a rank reset and these things will happen until the system evens itself out.
 

ScOULaris

Member
¡HarlequinPanic!;200718140 said:
It's a great game, I feel like it's starting to show its age though.

How do you mean? Graphically?

While some of the character models are better than others, I find the overall visual package to be more impressive than something like MKX or SFV. The animation is great all-around, and the backgrounds are easily the best of the current crop of fighters IMO.

MKX has some good backgrounds too, but we all saw how SFV dropped the ball in this regard. And I'm not trying to shit on SFV for no good reason here. That's a legitimate gripe, IMO, and a notch in KI's belt when held up against its current competition within the genre.

EDIT: Actually, I've gotta give Xrd credit for its backgrounds too. ArcSys always brings the heat.
 

VariantX

Member
Doesn't seem like there's much reason to not give it a shot if you have Windows 10 or own a Xbone. It's free to try after all.


Ultradavid said he thought it had the best matchmaking of any game out right now on the last UltraChen. Take that for what you will. I've never played the game myself tho.

It's true for me, for every match I get in sfv, I've had 5-6 in KI. KI's matchmaking rarely has me wait more than 15-20 seconds before the next match. It reminds me of how amazing SFV matchmaking was during one of the betas where I would almost never get any time in training mode because of how fast it was then.
 
SFV's biggest mistake by far was not using a similar F2P approach alongside a full priced option. The $60 take-it-or-leave-it approach meant that many people heard about all the complaints and criticisms surrounding the game and passed on it entirely--and there's no means for Capcom to hook them back in at low cost. Meanwhile, I was immediately sold after trying KI off the Windows Store for free and ended up buying the full $60 pack.

Why F2P wasn't an option when Capcom's stated casual friendly approach and eSports ambitions dovetailed so neatly with it is utterly mindboggling. Really, I'm surprised more fighting games don't do it in general.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
I would definitely try this if it wasn't caught up in Microsoft's current bullshit. Looks really cool.

SFV's biggest mistake by far was not using a similar F2P approach.

Capcom's biggest mistake was not finishing the game before they put it out.

If you have a franchise as big as Street Fighter, you definitely want to go with the boxed product model rather than the F2P model, assuming you aren't crippling yourself with incompetence before you launch.
 
I'm a diehard Street Fighter fan since SF2's arcade days- but I've been playing KI exclusively since the PC release with no desire to pick up SFV anytime soon again.
 

kirblar

Member
SFV's biggest mistake by far was not using a similar F2P approach alongside a full priced option. The $60 take-it-or-leave-it approach meant that many people heard about all the complaints and criticisms surrounding the game and passed on it entirely--and there's no means for Capcom to hook them back in at low cost. Meanwhile, I was immediately sold after trying KI off the Windows Store for free and ended up buying the full $60 pack.

Why F2P wasn't an option when Capcom's stated casual friendly approach and eSports ambitions dovetailed so neatly with it is utterly mindboggling.
SFV is clearly meant to go F2P eventually. They just don't want to do it off the bat.
 
Capcom's biggest mistake was not finishing the game before they put it out.

Well, that too, LOL.

If you have a franchise as big as Street Fighter, you definitely want to go with the boxed product model rather than the F2P model, assuming you aren't crippling yourself with incompetence before you launch.

Dead or Alive did both and did just fine. No reason that Capcpom couldn't do the same.
 
Was it the KI Cup where every single character in the game was represented in the Top 32? Love how every characters shines and, though based off the same combo system, plays really differently.
 

ScOULaris

Member
Was it the KI Cup where every single character in the game was represented in the Top 32? Love how every characters shines and, though based off the same combo system, plays really differently.

Yeah, and the even crazier part is that RicoSuave pretty much plays all of them.
 
Forgot that this was out now. Want to give it a try but can't figure out how to change where the game installs to. Didn't Microsoft add an option to change where things get saved from the app store? Haven't kept up all that much but thought I heard they did. Googling it brought up a lot of old articles about changing the registry and such.
 

Hasney

Member
Eh, I'm not a huge fan of the actual gameplay. Don't get me wrong, it's still good and better than MK, but I'm still on SF and GG from an actual fighting game point of view.
 

ScOULaris

Member
Forgot that this was out now. Want to give it a try but can't figure out how to change where the game installs to. Didn't Microsoft add an option to change where things get saved from the app store? Haven't kept up all that much but thought I heard they did. Googling it brought up a lot of old articles about changing the registry and such.

Yeah, you can easily change the install location.

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/6422-apps-save-location-change-windows-10-a.html
 
Fantastic game, fighting games fans really need to check it out.

I've found the people in ranked mode to be weirdly friendly for the genre. No trash talking, lots of "nice match" type comments. So unusual. I would like the process to be a little more streamlined (mainly in having the character picked before you bother searching), but otherwise it's super fast and works great.

Shadow Labs is surprisingly cool too, give it a try.

I wish SF5 had netcode that was even half as good.
 
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