They went the whole generation without a proper Zelda or AC game.
But what they did give us is way more than Sony gave the ps4.
They went the whole generation without a proper Zelda or AC game.
Every PS4 owner expects a PS5 to come out somewhere down the line, but if that PS5 was releasing first quarter of next year, yeah, you'd see plenty of upset PS4 owners.If not this, it'll be the PS5 in a few years time. Is it a big middle finger to all the current PS4 owners that the PS5 is looming in the near future?
Just because Colin overreacts and makes some fucking nebulous statement doesn't give his claim any credit.
His "source" says. He's completely alleviated of the responsibility of being accurate if his "source" is wrong. Get out there and give us REAL accounts from REAL devs, Colin.
Are you reading this thread? I bet you are.
My issue isn't with there being an upgrade that exists, my issue is Sony is going to try to sell us an upgraded console when we still don't have games that were announced before the regular ps4 even came out. Sony barely released any worthwhile first party games and half of the studios are still on mystery projects and they want to ram a new console down the industries throat.
How about making first party games to justify the regular PS4 first before you go and upgrade the damn thing?
Say what you want about the failure of the Wii U and such, but at least Nintendo was there throwing amazing games at it.
Reading gaf on the Vita lolYou know he's lurking. Like he always does. Vita in hand. Lurkin.
But what they did give us is way more than Sony gave the ps4.
My source says the console industry is going in the shitter, and we're all going to have to go back to board games by 2020. Have fun, guys.
Just because Colin overreacts and makes some fucking nebulous statement doesn't give his claim any credit.
His "source" says. He's completely alleviated of the responsibility of being accurate if his "source" is wrong. Get out there and give us REAL accounts from REAL devs, Colin.
Are you reading this thread? I bet you are.
I'm going to focus on this aspect because that's obviously the core of your concern:
So you're unhappy with the current PS4. You would continue to be unhappy about the PS4 until it justifies itself for you whenever that point occurs for you personally.
There is no logical path to why a leak of an upcoming changed model would change that aspect for you.
I hope they're also listening to me. I want a PS4K.Sony is listening don't worry guys
And mine says that game developers are not happy with people going back to board games!
/J
I like how you put tradition into quotation marks, as Sony was the one with all those 10 year plans in prior generations. Other than PC, what technology offers frequent update cycles? Smartphones? You mean the devices most people get subsidized via provider plans. Are consoles having subsidized plans? No, you're being asked at least 400$ for not getting a possibly worse performance of the same game on the regular hardware.
Now 'they'know that they will get a small spec update with the slim version mid gen. Fine. Not much changes. Games are running on both versions. A little bit better on the more expensive one.Every PS4 owner expects a PS5 to come out somewhere down the line, but if that PS5 was releasing first quarter of next year, yeah, you'd see plenty of upset PS4 owners.
Can someone post some of the responses from Devs about this.
Hard to find amongst the overreactions.
you underestimate how much work goes into drivers and the base os to make those things possible.
I completely disagree. Wii U is, for me, the worst console I've ever purchased.
I've only owned my PS4 for seven months and I'm already significantly happier with it than I will ever be with my Wii U. An upgraded version of the console isn't going to change that.
The end result is a future that looks a lot like the great depression, and our kids are playing with wooden spoons and dirt thanks to Sony. GG SONY! GG!
I'm talking about first party games and the first party presence. PS4 is successful because Sony made some good business deals. Not because of their games. And that's perfectly fine; I love my third party ps4 games.
Re-post:
Cars have 3-year lease cycles, phones have 2-year contracts, PCs are changing all the time.
I guess I don't mind a new console every 3 years if that means better tech and experiences.
On the dev side, if they hate the PS4 Neo idea, they can surely make the Neo version of the game exactly as the one for the current PS4.
No one is telling them to do improvements to the Neo versions.
People who don't want it can still avoid the incremental upgrade, still enjoy the current games on their PS4s, also enjoy the price drops, and wait for the PS5 in three more years.
So yea, I don't see the downside of this.
And we know how bad is Hyrule Warriors on OG 3DS. It's like the game was designed for the New 3DS but runs worse on the original!
But what they did give us is way more than Sony gave the ps4.
as far as "Consoles" go im already playing the inferior version of games? ok.Why does it matter to you so much? Your PS4 will literally play the same games as NEO. Do you really need to feel like you have the best of everything? You are already playing the inferior versions of games as is. Most Ps4 games are either 900p or 1080p and 30fps.
actually, the future looks more like the second half of wall-e minus the ending.
If it has 4K media support and upscales all games to 4K, then maybe? Depends how you like to spend your money. Lots invested in tech will splash out for the most minor of improvements simply to have the latest. That is part of the hobby for a lot of people. I'm certain we have decent numbers who just go to Slim versions of consoles for aesthetics and possibly fan noise alone. Those don't even have any technical benefits (or usually very minor ~ think Sony added bitstreaming support of some sorts to the PS3 slim).
If those 25% are good games with nice enhancements, absolutely.
I'm not expecting the majority of games to take full advantage of the upgraded specs and I'm still interested in buying one.
Every PS4 owner expects a PS5 to come out somewhere down the line, but if that PS5 was releasing first quarter of next year, yeah, you'd see plenty of upset PS4 owners.
as far as "Consoles" go im already playing the inferior version of games? ok.
I love this post.But some GAF posters said Devs wanted new tech.
You know he's lurking. Like he always does. Vita in hand. Lurkin.
Thanks for clarifying!
I'm not a authority at all on graphics or tech. I do understand that the PS4 SDK is scalable and that Sony has two teams ICE and SN Systems that specialize in performance/efficiencies.
I find hard to believe any of this is reactionary I feel as if Sony and Cerny may have had this project planned, this is just a phase of a overall end game.
I have included some information below:
PS4 SDK:http://bit.ly/1KkF54n
and...
ICE Team:http://bit.ly/17Rxg4u
and...
SN Systems:http://bit.ly/18kpiRh
Sure. You're unhappy with the first party effort. I'm not thrilled with it either.I'm talking about first party games and the first party presence. PS4 is successful because Sony made some good business deals. Not because of their games. And that's perfectly fine; I love my third party ps4 games.
I just don't see why that line of thinking only applies to game consoles and not literally every piece of technology or consumer product.
That's a huge assumption.
At this stage it's impossible to say how much or little extra work would be needed to get a ps4 Neo version out the door.
And you're assuming Sony won't have all of this wrapped up within a single SDK because...?
The Xbox One version does have a quit option though...
I should have been more clear. I was specifically talking about Sony's first party output. I've been much more satisfied with it than Nintendo's.
Well the expectations for consoles have been set by the previous generations. It shouldn't be a surprise that many buyers of PS4s and Xbox Ones expected 5+ years of first line support before the focus would inevitably shift to the next generation.I just don't see why that line of thinking only applies to game consoles and not literally every piece of technology or consumer product.
So you buy a TV and a car every year? Or every three years? No leasing, buying! Dude, care to share some of your wealth with us?What technology offers frequent update cycles? Like, all of them! TV's, cars, gadgets, etc. they all offer the opportunity to upgrade from something new if it is available and you want to pay for it. Consoles are basically the exception to everything else technology.
My source says the console industry is going in the shitter, and we're all going to have to go back to board games by 2020. Have fun, guys.
Are people seriously asking Colin to give up what Devs and sources he getting this from?
Lol. Gaf never ceases to amaze me.
Why would he do that? The Devs would never say anything like that publicly. Thats why we have IGN/Kotaku/Gamespot, etc..