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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 6 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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And get spoiled about things that still haven't happened? No, thanks.
I'm just saying that I hope that one day the shows cover everything in the books so the threads don't have to be split. That'll probably never happened, though.
Card games don't exist in this thread.
JuanLatino
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well it seems like this season will be the rise of some female characters
Sansa: will probably play a big role reuniting the northern families for the war against the Boltons
Daenerys: tough time ahead - will need to prove herself again...--> win over the dothrakis and unite the khalasars --> biggest army in GOT
Cercei: well this season will be her comeback - ice cold - i choose Violence
Ellaria: Will prepare the war against the lannisters
Sansa: will probably play a big role reuniting the northern families for the war against the Boltons
Daenerys: tough time ahead - will need to prove herself again...--> win over the dothrakis and unite the khalasars --> biggest army in GOT
Cercei: well this season will be her comeback - ice cold - i choose Violence
Ellaria: Will prepare the war against the lannisters
JadedWriter
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But dat Indira Varma...Me every time the Sand Snakes speak
I would love to see her play the game of thrones.
JadedWriter
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I would love to see her as well utilized as she was in Rome.
Nameless
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I'd put Melisandre near the top of that list once she gets her swagger back. As one of R'hllor's oldest, wisest, and most powerful emissaries she will be an invaluable resource in the coming war with the White Walkers.
Step one of course is to bring back the Son of Fire.
JadedWriter
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But she's always wrong... She pretty much had Stannis kill off his entire family for no god damn reason at all.
Nameless
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That's a bit hyperbolic. She believed in Stannis and ultimately misread some of the more important flaming tea leaves as a result, but that doesn't discount the fact the visions themselves are mostly accurate , or that she can do some undeniably fantastic shit. Plus she essentially gave Stannis two armies he wouldn't have had without her. Meli is legit.
And hey, the snows did melt right after Shireen's sacrifice. While it didn't clear a path to Stannis taking Winterfell, it got Meli where she actually needed to be whether she realizes it yet or not.
JadedWriter
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Would Stannis, his family and Renly still be alive and well if he'd had never met Melly Sanders? Though something probably would've killed Renly, the people liked him though.
Me every time the Sand Snakes speak
This goes for Dany as well
I wish Sansa was the mother of dragons
Two years and two months from now the show will most likely be over.
JadedWriter
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It was quite funny when Dany's bad ass boast of a thousand titles had no effect on the Dothraki.
ComputerBlue
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Pretty sure it was a real old ladies body with some trickery to get the face and eyes to resemble meli. That's what it looked like to me anyway.
Pamplemousse
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I believe it was the actress's face with makeup placed over the old woman's face. The rest was the old woman's body.
Yes. What would you have done, being forced to choose between your blood family and the family that stole you away from them? Even when he took Winterfall, it's clear Theon did not want to harm anyone. He even orders that Rodrick be placed in a holding cell. But that cunt whispering into his ear that his men would turn on him, forced him to execute Rodrick. When Theon finds out of Robb's death, you can see the pain it causes him. He also tells Ramsay (before Theon and the viewers know who Ramsay is) that he's true father died in King's Landing. That's point that Theon realises that his blood family were never really his true family, but rather it was the Starks.
Not true. Name dropping her title as Khal Drogo's wife did a number on them. Khal Dime-a-Dozen was immediately like, "you're Drogo's widow? Well shit, sorry D&D but she's not available for rape."
JadedWriter
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I was mainly referring to her "breaker of chains, The Unburnt" routine.
Does it matter lol? They killed the Prince and the heir, and apparently they somehow convinced the Royal Guards to stand by and do nothing. They're probably right this moment at the Dorne registration office having freshly printed Martell ID cards being made.
Joffrey, Tywin, and Ramsay are some of the most vile and hated characters in the show world, and yet they had men willing to die for them at every turn. But with Dorne, I'm suddenly supposed to believe that one of the kindest and most logic thinking rulers around, is somehow betrayed by his guards over vengeance for his slain brother...who if we forgot, got himself killed.
I know, I was just teasing lol.
isn't that one sand snake Oberyn's daughter
edit: or were they all his daughters? That's royal blood in any case
Nameless
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Impossible to say and that's kinda beside the point. But if you want to get technical, thousands of lives were saved by assassinating Renly and preventing a Baratheon Civil War. Also her taking Stannis North stopped another war and ended up saving thousands of Wildlings at Hardhome. She also saved Davos from being executed and will soon save Jon Snow from permadeath.
This of course speaks nothing of the countless lucky souls she's guide to the fiery bosom of the One True God!
JadedWriter
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I thought there was only a civil war because Stannis is a by the books asshole? Nobody really wanted Stannis to rule if I'm not mistaken. Whole thing could've been avoided if Stannis just supported his brother and served on his council. I think with the appeal of Renly and the guidance of Stannis advising Renly something decent could've been worked out, instead of this constant power vacuum that exists.
Most of the young women in Dorne are Oberyn's daughters.
Nameless
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Stannis had
The case for Renly is he was willing to team up with Robb Stark to take on the Lannisters. Provided he defeated Stannis in the Storm Lands, a Baratheon + Stark + Tyrell alliance would have been pretty hard to deny if it stuck.
JadedWriter
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But Stannis and Renly technically had the same enemies. If they all had joined forces, this whole thing would probably be several seasons shorter. I get the claim with Stannis, I just think if Stannis wasn't all "bend the knee or be broken" they could've negotiated something. But Stannis is the man that chopped off the knuckles of his best friend and guy that SAVED HIS FUCKING LIFE for smuggling in some fucking onions.
Nameless
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Things would have been great under King Renly, until the Dead Army he no doubt would have dismissed hit, and Westeros is fucked. Stannis on the other hand saw becoming King and stopping the White Walkers as parts of the same mission. The crown was supposed to put him in the position to rally humanity against the only threat that truly matters. Give me King Stannis.
Nameless
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All I need is some red hair dye and the largest barrel of Dornish Merlot.
seriously though, those eyes.
JadedWriter
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But Westeros is still fucked. Only difference now is they decided to look back to see who's fucking them.
RichiRamjag
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Stannis is a no nonsense guy. Giving him the offer he did was pretty gracious by his standards. It's why Ned favored him and he likewise.
True story.
Though any fan of Sean bean already knows that something terrible awaits him no matter what the material. One of my favorite actors, but there certainly is a trend with his fates. I see him in the credits of anything and I'm calling it immediately lol.
Boogalogist
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You shouldn't be in here if you're on your first viewing of GoT. There'll be too many spoilers.
Also, almost every episode 9 of a season has something big happening.
Sean Bean is THE main reason why I started GoT. One of my favourite actors too. He can sell the death scene so well. Although he couldn't really demonstrate that "talent" here.
Lol. You're in for a treat with this show!
Yeah but not before the end of season three. That's when Davos received word from castle black.
I wonder why Robb never tried to ally with Stannis. He clearly acknowledged that Stannis had a claim to the throne.
grandjedi6
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Stannis wouldn't play ball: https://youtu.be/4iimpkprnTk
Stannis refusing an alliance with Robb this I get. But it wasn't even shown that Robb ever tried to reach out to Stannis.
Besides that, that was a really retarted assassination attempt.
Kenzodielocke
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Anyone know Ned hasn't demanded Trial by Combat? Tyrion did it twice. Maybe wasn't smart enough.
Ned believes in the Old Gods, I don't know if Trial by Combat is a thing with the Old Gods.
It's a thing for the Seven and for the Lord of Light, we've seen that.
Also, he probably knew whom he would be facing (The Mountain, probably). I think reason > faith for Ned.
soundscream
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He also still had a bum leg from the spear during his fight with Jamie.
He sent Beric Donndarion after the mountain. He couldn't know whether they succeeded in killing him or not. But Jaime would certainly have finished him. Plus Ned wasn't the kind of guy who would choose some else to fight his fight. Also even if he won, what would happen to his daughters then?
He could still ask for a champion to fight for him, as Tyrion did. His options would have been limited mind you, he certainly wouldn't have Robb go against the Mountain.
soundscream
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I don't think he was the type to place his life in anothers hands.
chicko1983
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Doesn't the king still have to accept its accept able
Me every time the Sand Snakes speak
The two that killed the Prince are insufferable, to say the least.
If this was God of War, maybe they would fit in better. though.
Don't think so. Lysa didn't look like she had any choice but to accept.
Camp Freddie
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They are bastards, so under normal circumstances no.
However, in the TV series is appears that all other legitimate blood-relatives of Prince Doran are now dead (edit: I'm not going to reference any books). So Obara is the heir unless they throw a surprise long-lost relative that's never been in the show before (I don't think the show creators would do this and there's been no foreshadowing of unknown Martells).
That would mean that Obara Sand (the one that speared Trystane in the back of the head) is the eldest descendent of House Martell and would be the ruler of Dorne. Her mother is not Ellaria, but one of Oberyn's previous paramours.
Come to think of it, it's a bit surprising they haven't considered that when they sent her to King's Landing as an assassin. While the Dornish might be dissatisfied with Prince Doran, I expect they'd want the bloodline successor to be made the official ruler, rather than the Ruler's brother's girlfriend.
[edit] Still, it's hard to know what the Dornish people think of Ellaria, since it appears that Oberyn was very public about his paramour - so maybe she was known/loved by the people.
Camp Freddie
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Regarding Ned Stark and Trial by Combat:
Ned confessed because he thought Arya and Sansa would be murdered if he demanded a trial.
Joffrey 'altered the deal' a bit, but you can't demand a trial after having publicly confessed.
Ned confessed because he thought Arya and Sansa would be murdered if he demanded a trial.
Joffrey 'altered the deal' a bit, but you can't demand a trial after having publicly confessed.
They are all his daughters, with different women. I believe Tyene is Ellaria's daughter.
Kenzodielocke
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Will they recast Rickon ? I imagine he has grown quite a bit, I mean look at fucking Olly and Bran.
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