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How does Demon's Souls hold up?
- Thread starter MrOogieBoogie
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I think BB is better than DeS 10x times, but hey opinions and all.
playing DeS after DS1 wasn't in it's favor.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
no bonfires and estus flasks to lean on and having to pretty much finish a stage in one go can be tense and challenging. It's the hardest one by far.
Gamesgbkiller
Member
Great. But the controls might not be perfect because of the weird rolling to the side randomly.
supermetfreud
Member
I forgot to mention the framerate is fucking rough.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
A game with a billion healing items and insanely high hp regen combos does not make a hard game.
I died under 30 times on my blind clear when the game just came out.
mostly trying to get items and dying to traps xD
i wish they'd do a re-release of this game, if for nothing else but to give people that wanna go back and play it the true experience of the old monk
edit: and i totally wouldn't be against them retrofitting the estus system into a remastered version. its the one update i feel is objectively better in dark souls
i'm assuming there's barely anyone playing demons souls online, now. so the boss could just be cpu controlled
edit: and i totally wouldn't be against them retrofitting the estus system into a remastered version. its the one update i feel is objectively better in dark souls
Probably even trollier than the DS1 pendant, yes.
Probably the only weapon in the game where if you recognized it in an invasion, you seriously considered turning around and jumping off a cliff instead of risking a fight with that shit.
KelpNugatCrunch
Member
Demon's Souls is interesting because part of the reason it holds up really well even till today is because the design of it is actually unique even when compared to its sequels.
Demon's Souls' levels wrap around on themselves in a manner that Dark Souls doesn't. See Dark Souls is one big world to explore in which several areas connect to each other, but Demon's Souls is just 5 distinct levels. The levels themselves find ways to wrap in on themselves, so you'll play say the swamp and at first it's linear but at the end you'll knock over a bridge that will connect the first half of the stage to the second.
I'm not saying the sequels don't do this as well but from what I've read it seems none of the 3 DS games or Bloodborne do it to the extent Demon's Souls does. It's definitely a solid game, though I still prefer Dark Souls over it.
I've yet to play Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne.
Demon's Souls' levels wrap around on themselves in a manner that Dark Souls doesn't. See Dark Souls is one big world to explore in which several areas connect to each other, but Demon's Souls is just 5 distinct levels. The levels themselves find ways to wrap in on themselves, so you'll play say the swamp and at first it's linear but at the end you'll knock over a bridge that will connect the first half of the stage to the second.
I'm not saying the sequels don't do this as well but from what I've read it seems none of the 3 DS games or Bloodborne do it to the extent Demon's Souls does. It's definitely a solid game, though I still prefer Dark Souls over it.
I've yet to play Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne.
QuantumZebra
Member
Arguably maybe the base game, but DS2 DLCs and Old Hunters laugh at it in terms of difficulty imo.
NG+ with pure black tendency is another story though.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
It looks fine to me. I don't get when people say it looks like ass.
Unless you think pretty much all old PS3 games look bad. I mean come on.
Don't agree with those at all. It plays perfectly fine, I tend to prefer it over Dark Souls even. Dark Souls 3 is such a joy to play because it's so similar to Demon's.
The only drawbacks are that it has no plunging attacks and no R2 leaps, but I don't mind that much.
What do you mean exactly?
Just like Dark Souls? (on consoles at least, for performance)
Ridiculous. How did people ever get so scared of this shitty weapon? It's sooooo easy to avoid and to counter. Spears are like, at the lowest tier in terms of PvP weapons.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
I wouldn't go quite that far as 10x better, but I really enjoy the dodge stuff rather than shields. My DaS3 character is definitely built with both approaches in mind.
Also I'm a die hard Lovecraft fan thanks to Bloodborne. I've read tons since and it's inspired my own writing. It's not very often that a game can inspire me like that.
JumpJeff84
Member
I like it a lot still. Play it every year or so
I still think it has the best atmosphere and art direction. It doesn't have as much as detail and scenery as later games but it feels darker, more oppressive and darker!
I never felt so alone like that in a video game before.Every area make me feel like i am in a very distant land. There was no sign of living in that game. And i like the setitng more. It kinda looks like earlier medieval setting. Everything is more rough and decayed.
And its fucking darker!
And (last one) Tower of Latria is the best Soulborne level!
I never felt so alone like that in a video game before.Every area make me feel like i am in a very distant land. There was no sign of living in that game. And i like the setitng more. It kinda looks like earlier medieval setting. Everything is more rough and decayed.
And its fucking darker!
And (last one) Tower of Latria is the best Soulborne level!
SkylineRKR
Member
I was there when this game was released in Asia, I've been a Souls fanboy since that very day. And I think Demon's Souls didn't hold up as well as its sequel.
Its very unbalanced. Magic and Meat cleaver are way too good, some magic will actually one shot bosses. World tendency is a fun idea but was broken when you connected online, you could be fucked for a playthrough and be locked out of items.
Upgrading weapons is bad. Go past +3 and you cannot upgrade to Fire anymore. Go past +5 and you're locked out of Blessing. Upgrade Winger Spear +7 to be able to make Scraping Spear and find out its shittier than your WS+7. Hit an NPC and you're fucked for life. No absolution here yet. And fuck the Pure Bladestone drop rate right up the ass.
Farming grass and other items is just bad design as Bloodborne proved recently as well. DeS gets away with it for being the first game though. The Nexus is still the best hub, I give it that.
Its very unbalanced. Magic and Meat cleaver are way too good, some magic will actually one shot bosses. World tendency is a fun idea but was broken when you connected online, you could be fucked for a playthrough and be locked out of items.
Upgrading weapons is bad. Go past +3 and you cannot upgrade to Fire anymore. Go past +5 and you're locked out of Blessing. Upgrade Winger Spear +7 to be able to make Scraping Spear and find out its shittier than your WS+7. Hit an NPC and you're fucked for life. No absolution here yet. And fuck the Pure Bladestone drop rate right up the ass.
Farming grass and other items is just bad design as Bloodborne proved recently as well. DeS gets away with it for being the first game though. The Nexus is still the best hub, I give it that.
JumpJeff84
Member
Better than DS1 on PS3 though
yup
this is how i describe the game every time i talk about it
there's just something so fucking oppressive and lonely about that world that hasn't be fully replicated since
i do think it being my first game, though, added to that feeling. because i didn't know how how to play as well, so the world felt WAY more dangerous (also no bonfires)
BloodFeastislandMan
Banned
I recently bought it on PSN for my PS3 and it plays pretty well. The graphics are a bit dated and the inventory system isnt too optimal.
Well seeing high castles with living quarters and more civilized places in Dark Sous kinda ruins the mood for me. In DeS you dont get to see that much.
supermetfreud
Member
I wouldn't know! I played through it on PC. That sounds extremely dire if that's really the case, though.
AcceptableGhost
Member
Demon's Souls is the best PS3 exclusive for sure. I can't imagine a time when it is not worth playing.
Always great to play. Played a bit some last night when DS3 servers went down.....usually play through once a year anyway though, so it is always great for me.
Yeah, this is the worst part...total weight limits on what you carry.
Yeah, this is the worst part...total weight limits on what you carry.
guymockingdale
Member
whhhhaaatt? I would say flamelurker and false king allant are still pretty hard, probably maneater too.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
yeah, the fucking false king actually steals your soul levels with a certain attack which is just fuccccckkkkeedddd
MMaRsu
Banned
YOOOOO, It's still the best Souls game with the only one that feels like they experimented and more importantly nearly all of their experiments nailed it super hard. All but one or two bosses are super different and feel focused around giving you a different boss experience and succeeding in most cases. I felt every souls game post Demon's has felt safer and less experimental and because of that consistently inferior.
I also think it succeeds far more at "oppression" than any of the other 3 dark souls games. Demon's has a very focused dark fantasy slant that never lets up. Absolutely wonderful.
I also think it succeeds far more at "oppression" than any of the other 3 dark souls games. Demon's has a very focused dark fantasy slant that never lets up. Absolutely wonderful.
ClayKavalier
Banned
I've been curious for a long time to try this again. It never clicked for me for some reason. I see a lot of people say it's easier than the other Souls games but I beat 1-1, 1-2, and 2-1 and couldn't make any progress in any of the other levels.
Those goddamn rolly skeletons in particular always gave me trouble, I could never get the hang of them.
Those goddamn rolly skeletons in particular always gave me trouble, I could never get the hang of them.
Do you live in a world where Dark Souls 2 doesn't exist?
Omegasquash
Member
But running up on Boletaria was something.
You shut your god damned mouth, Sephzilla.
I agree, but I still love it.
I faced that guy way too early because I got to him without ever getting more than one archstone into maybe three of the other areas (only beat
Dragon God
Int build with the Crescent Falchion
When you do like 30 damage per attack on a guy like that, you bet your ass he's pretty hard.
I couldn't agree more. Later hubs were all disappointing in comparison, even though Ds3's comes close.
This is the most wrong post I've seen in a Souls thread
Ashler
Member
I like you.
I still really like Dark Souls 2, but I just think it had some really questionable design choices.
Lion Heart
Banned
The Asian box art is GOAT. I hope they make a remake so I can complete it one day. My original save was lost 60% through.
The Artisan
Member
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thefatness16
Banned
I beat it for the first time about a month ago, and it holds up well. Its missing some QOL improvements but I don't think it is any harder to go back to than the other Souls games.
did you play dark souls 2? it absolutely meant something in that game
Maiden Astrea encounter is probably the most memorable one for me in the souls series, especially because of the awesome music.
Discovered this cool remix of her theme recently.
https://youtu.be/J1K1sSZOP2I
Omegasquash
Member
I still really like Dark Souls 2, but I just think it had some really questionable design choices.
Dual Twinblade R2. Never forget.
I agree, though I'd add that it was getting there that made it special. People that bitch about Blighttown ought to play the Valley of Defilement.
Shit, even getting there was nasty.
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