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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't

L95

Member
I legit forgot what the Fire Emblem was in this.

Though to be fair I can't remember what it was in FE4/FE5 (was it a gem in Tyrfing or something) and I think outside of the Archanea games it always gets shoehorned in so that they have a reason to keep the title, lol. The best are in FE8 and FE9/10 where it's just another name for an object that they mention and then never refer to it as the Fire Emblem again.

FE4/5 is house Velthomer's crest or some BS

Do they even call the Dark Stone the FE out of Ephraim's route?
 

Shinypogs

Member
I'm thinking of playing as a witch for my lunatic birthright playthrough but instead of a plus magic boon going for plus hp since their magic growths look decent enough as it is. I'm open to other boons though if those of you who have played witches have advice.
 

Adam Prime

hates soccer, is Mexican
I just hit level 20 with a few advanced classes, what do I do next? Buy those super expensive seals and raise the level cap? I don't really care about switching jobs to get more skills I'm happy where my team is at... So is that it for their growth?
 

Azuran

Banned
I just hit level 20 with a few advanced classes, what do I do next? Buy those super expensive seals and raise the level cap? I don't really care about switching jobs to get more skills I'm happy where my team is at... So is that it for their growth?

Yeah that's it for them unless you buy the money making DLC and go crazy with the eternal seals so you can cap stats and get every skill available (or you can just buy them which is probably easier)
 

KSai

Member
I did it

I won

I beat Conquest on Lunatic without losing a single person. Literally took hours to come prepare and come up with a full-proof strat, lmao

Good job. There's a lot of shame in losing even one person at the end. I didn't save for Hoshido until I saved Saizo.
 
Finally arrived from Amazon Japan. Makes a nice companion piece with my Awakening LE OST.

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So good! That the Amazon Fates LE Ost?

Also I want to order it from amazon.jp but I am not sure how to fill out the address header when creating a new account.

Yes it is and you can use your regular address if you already have an Amazon account - not to mention that you can switch the language to English on the site to fill in the fields.

Here's what the 8 CDs look like:
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King Fost

Neo Member
Nyx's stupid growths is making her a pain to raise. She has a grand total of 6 SKL after 7 level ups which kills her accuracy completely even with Heartseeker as I'm moving up to stronger enemies.

I think we just found a unit even more blind than Gonzales lol

(though Gonzales's accuracy issues are overblown)
 

Moonlight

Banned
Nyx's stupid growths is making her a pain to raise. She has a grand total of 6 SKL after 7 level ups which kills her accuracy completely even with Heartseeker as I'm moving up to stronger enemies.
what are you doing

why are you trying to raise her

why do you want to suffer
 
Nyx's stupid growths is making her a pain to raise. She has a grand total of 6 SKL after 7 level ups which kills her accuracy completely even with Heartseeker as I'm moving up to stronger enemies.

if you really really really want to make her work, either buy the certain blow skill or friendship seal her via mozu into a sniper to learn it ww
 

Azuran

Banned
what are you doing

why are you trying to raise her

why do you want to suffer

Because for some reason I'm a fan of her and I want to make her work. I started to like her because it seems everyone hates her... and I'm personally finding out what that is.

She seemed like a really fun unit to use with her insane MAG and SPD growth. Too bad I didn't realized her accuracy would be so bad along with non existent HP, DEF and RES. Even her STR is garbage which means she can't go Dark Knight.

I didn't know what I was getting myself into :(

if you really really really want to make her work, either buy the certain blow skill or friendship seal her via mozu into a sniper to learn it ww

Yeah that's what I'm planning on doing. The rest of her friendship sets are useless and I can get Omyoji by marrying her to Hayato.
 

champloo

Member
Because for some reason I'm a fan of her and I want to make her work. I started to like her because it seems everyone hates her... and I'm personally finding out what that is.

She seemed like a really fun unit to use with her insane MAG and SPD growth. Too bad I didn't realized her accuracy would be so bad along with non existent HP, DEF and RES. Even her STR is garbage which means she can't go Dark Knight.

I didn't know what I was getting myself into :(



Yeah that's what I'm planning on doing. The rest of her friendship sets are useless and I can get Omyoji by marrying her to Hayato.

Marry her to Hayato and you can enjoy having a even blinder Rhajat lol
 
Because for some reason I'm a fan of her and I want to make her work. I started to like her because it seems everyone hates her... and I'm personally finding out what that is.

She seemed like a really fun unit to use with her insane MAG and SPD growth. Too bad I didn't realized her accuracy would be so bad along with non existent HP, DEF and RES. Even her STR is garbage which means she can't go Dark Knight.

I didn't know what I was getting myself into :(



Yeah that's what I'm planning on doing. The rest of her friendship sets are useless and I can get Omyoji by marrying her to Hayato.

Why would you not go Dark Knight? gives her badly needed bulk and a mount

edit: wait you're using Nyx on Revelation? no wonder you're struggling so much lol
 

Shinypogs

Member
Mangs turned Nyx into a powerhouse during his hard/classic conquest lets play. That said there were some hilarious misses by her even when he fed her as many skill boost items as he could. The RNG Gods also blessed him with a crazy good arthur who crit on basically every turn and often had higher crit than hit rates well into the seventies.

I just beat conquest on hard/classic but sadly lost elise and my son ignatius on the last two turns. Elise died becuase I forgot that when the bosses attack destroys the barriers the enemies will gain one move right after and her safe space she'd used fortify in became a one hit kill despite capped speed and luck she did not dodge. Ignatius was Ophelia's husband and pairup buddy for when she couldn't tank an enemy phase with nosferatu. He was also just a few xp shy of having wary fighter and died to being doubled literally by the last unit attack before player phase.

I may eventually go back and see if I can pull off a no death endgame ( probably via support grinding in my castle battles to unlock the last paralogues) but honestly I am proud of how this hard play through went and while I failed to bring every soldier home no one died as an intentional sacrifice and all of my final team going into the last chapter and endgame. had moments of glory along the way. I will never forget the crazy crits and dodges. The times I was screwed until I realised I could transfer pass a unit or weapon across the battlefield that would make all the difference in that one instance. Also the failures, the setbacks and times I got so cocky about several chapters with no resets I walked straight into my own doom. Something about this run was special.

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What I like about the endgame on hard vs normal is the enemy weapon choices and placement.

I can't just throw Velouria at the dark knights or the bow knights when they show up becuase of the Palladin with beast killer. Effie can't tank the enemy generals till the one with the hammer is gone and becuase they can't be doubled and soliel with armourslayer only does 33 dmg I need to decide who else will join that fight and see where doing that positions them and if that means I need to freeze another enemy or if I can put someone in the way to block them and use a silence on the maid instead etc etc.



Conquest endgame on normal can be beaten by just running tanky units down one side popping concoctions and killing most stuff via retaliation on enemy phase. I don't want to give a lot of stuff the chance to even hit me on hard mode becuase of the clever use of weapons and skills.


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The art for the OST cover and on the disks looks so good. If I collected that sort of thing I would have jumped on something as nice as that.
 
Revelation 12

Yes, Camilla, look forward to spending all that time with Azura in the support conversations you don't have with each other.

If there's one change with the support system I'll gladly welcome in the next FE, it's getting rid of having only 4 same-gendered support conversations.
Also Avatar sexual's getting more support conversations but that's neither here or there.
 

The End

Member
Nyx is a god awful character.

Her only real use was manning the magic ballista in ch10 in conquest and being rhajat's mom in revelation.

ah, chapter 10: Breaker of Dicks

but yeah, magic got nerfed pretty hard, it's almost always better to have an archer than a mage for range coverage
 

PK Gaming

Member
Good job. There's a lot of shame in losing even one person at the end. I didn't save for Hoshido until I saved Saizo.

Thanks. I almost gave up, but I kept playing and improving my strategy. It almost felt like gambling, haha. Just one more try.

ah, chapter 10: Breaker of Dicks

but yeah, magic got nerfed pretty hard, it's almost always better to have an archer than a mage for range coverage

Magic isn't as ridiculous as it was in Awakening, but it still dominates in this game. It's unpenalized 1-2 range that hits the weaker Resistance stat. Mages also have access to solid tomes like Lightning (Brave weapon that's cheap and you get it early), Calamity Gate (Weapon triangle control), Horse Spirit (free stat boosts) and Mjolnir (Killer Weapon).

Really, it's the crappy magic users that hold it back. Archers are better than before, but still way worse than a good mage. Locked at 2 range = useless during the enemy phase, and they're really bad against enemy mages.

Nyx is a god awful character.

Her only real use was manning the magic ballista in ch10 in conquest and being rhajat's mom in revelation.

She's also the best pair up bot for mages.
 
Really, it's the crappy magic users that hold it back. Archers are better than before, but still way worse than a good mage. Locked at 2 range = useless during the enemy phase, and they're really bad against enemy mages.

*Unless their name is Niles.

I find it interesting that he's pretty much the only default bow user who has high enough resistance to wall out mages. Everyone else, from what I remembered (haven't played in a couple of days) had Res stats in the single digits even after a promotion.
 
*Unless their name is Niles.

I find it interesting that he's pretty much the only default bow user who has high enough resistance to wall out mages. Everyone else, from what I remembered (haven't played in a couple of days) had Res stats in the single digits even after a promotion.

Shura has hilarious high amount of base res in every route

i'm pretty sure it's mostly cause the outlaws class has a base res of 8
the only other unpromoted class that has the same amount is priestess
 

PK Gaming

Member
*Unless their name is Niles.

I find it interesting that he's pretty much the only default bow user who has high enough resistance to wall out mages. Everyone else, from what I remembered (haven't played in a couple of days) had Res stats in the single digits even after a promotion.

Yeah, Niles has a deceptively high Res stat and good enough skill to offset the WTD.

That said, he pretty much gets nuked by the lategame Sorcerers who have overkill magic. (Seriously the sorcerers in this game are assholes)
 

The End

Member
*Unless their name is Niles.

I find it interesting that he's pretty much the only default bow user who has high enough resistance to wall out mages. Everyone else, from what I remembered (haven't played in a couple of days) had Res stats in the single digits even after a promotion.

See, that's what's throwing me off.

Niles is my only archer and he's awesome
 
Shura has hilarious high amount of base res in every route

Ah, right. I never use those Shura, Scarlet, etc. because they have no supports with anyone other than Corrin, regardless of how good they are.

I killed Shura in my Conquest playthrough for those Boots. Sorry man, +1 Mov is a whole lot better than a permanently benched character.
 

PK Gaming

Member
See, that's what's throwing me off.

Niles is my only archer and he's awesome

Oh don't get me wrong, Niles is ballertown. He's your main source of income (if you don't use Kaze), Bowknight is a great class (9 movement!), and he's really good at doing his job. Hands down the best Archer in Fates.
 

Mcdohl

Member
I finished Fire Emblem Fates Conquest :)

Endgame was very hard. Maybe the hardest map I've played in any FE.

For the record I've played: FE(GBA), Shadow Dragon, Path of Radiance, Awakening, Fates Birthright and Fates Conquest.

On to Revelations now!

I heard Revelations is harder than Birthright but easier than Conquest. Is this true?
 

Shinypogs

Member
On to Revelations now!

I heard Revelations is harder than Birthright but easier than Conquest. Is this true?

Generally yes and the join times and stats of certain characters make them garbage while others are practically essential. Revelations has some nice tricky maps but also some really tame ones and the ability to grind challenges means you never really need to worry about screwing up your xp distribution during story chapters. Revelations on hard should probably be the new normal difficulty going forward with conquest hard and lunatic being the models for those difficulties.
 

Azuran

Banned
Marry her to Hayato and you can enjoy having a even blinder Rhajat lol

Sacrifices must be made for that +5 Magic and Speed. Sakura also lowers her max skill so it's not like another magic mom changes things much :/

Why would you not go Dark Knight? gives her badly needed bulk and a mount

edit: wait you're using Nyx on Revelation? no wonder you're struggling so much lol

What can I say? I love to make myself suffer.

Anyways she's a Dark Knight now. I'm just sad swords are pretty much useless for Nyx because swords are cool.
 
So in theory could I just grind for exp in the dlcs for as much as I wanted to? I want to try to level up keaton and Silas for the final battle since they're too low leveled right now.
 

Renewed

Member
I don't think I've ever used my Arms Scrolls... The only stat booster I used was a Dracoshield for Camilla when it seemed like she was gonna take some big hits early on. I should probably consider using them as I get near the end.
 

Zebetite

Banned
i heart sealed nyx to outlaw and got her two levels for move+1 to pass down to a kid in revelation

what do i win in the "letting nyx make my life a severe hell" contest?

edit, addendum: i hadn't been thinking and the kid was rhajat so she ended up even more blind than nyx. she had like 7 skill after promotion. it was fucking disgusting and she got immediately benched anyways.
 

PK Gaming

Member
i heart sealed nyx to outlaw and got her two levels for move+1 to pass down to a kid in revelation

what do i win in the "letting nyx make my life a severe hell" contest?

A "I busted my ass to train Nyx and all I got was a lousy kid with terrible skill" t-shirt?
 
you can grind with Nyx too lol

She'd need to be grossly overleveled to survive a hit and her accuracy at 2 range sucks.

Speaking of which I saw a let's play where nyx and arthur were the two best units, but the price he paid for that is that it took so much exp to get them there pretty much everyone else suffered to the point where even camilla and xander fell too far behind to catch up.
 
Tried to just wing it (failed) on Conquest 20
the one with the wind and Fuga
and I hated it. Waited a day or two to retry, came back and took it slow, and actually enjoyed it. Neat gimmick with an interesting added threat.
 
She'd need to be grossly overleveled to survive a hit and her accuracy at 2 range sucks.

Speaking of which I saw a let's play where nyx and arthur were the two best units, but the price he paid for that is that it took so much exp to get them there pretty much everyone else suffered to the point where even camilla and xander fell too far behind to catch up.

You'd be surprised at how much Nyx can potentially contribute even at a really fast pace, granted this is using Dark Falcon but obviously you can go much slower and give her more experience.
 

Lynx_7

Member
We had such a good thing going for a couple of chapters Birthright, why'd you have to make me sour again? I hate to make whiny posts like these but it really feels like they focused their efforts elsewhere and just let the interns balance the Lunatic setting of this campaign. So, what do we do to offer a fair challenge to a player? Lol I dunno just keep tossing reinforcements to overwhelm them until they have no way to maneuver a vulnerable unit out of harm's way. And then you have to either lowman the map (which I don't since I like keeping all my units well leveled) or turtle and play in the most agonizingly slow way possible once you already know their whole freaking species is gonna show up and precisely where they're coming from. It's not difficult, it's just boring. That wouldn't even be that bad if it weren't for the fact that it's another fucking route map so you have no quick alternative to finish it. Or any of the other ones.

What makes it worse was that my first loss wasn't even because of bad positioning but rather a 6% crit. The fact that my units kept missing 70-90% hits on a consistent basis, sometimes twice in a row, only added fuel to the fire. Oh, and It also made me kill one of my favorite Conquest characters for the stupidest reason. Fuck RNG and fuck this chapter. I'm still enjoying the game but at this point I definitely like Awakening better, let alone Conquest.

Is Revelations also like this?
 
We had such a good thing going for a couple of chapters Birthright, why'd you have to make me sour again? I hate to make whiny posts like these but it really feels like they focused their efforts elsewhere and just let the interns balance the Lunatic setting of this campaign. So, what do we do to offer a fair challenge to a player? Lol I dunno just keep tossing reinforcements to overwhelm them until they have no way to maneuver a vulnerable unit out of harm's way. And then you have to either lowman the map (which I don't since I like keeping all my units well leveled) or turtle and play in the most agonizingly slow way possible once you already know their whole freaking species is gonna show up and precisely where they're coming from. It's not difficult, it's just boring. That wouldn't even be that bad if it weren't for the fact that it's another fucking route map so you have no quick alternative to finish it. Or any of the other ones.

What makes it worse was that my first loss wasn't even because of bad positioning but rather a 6% crit. The fact that my units kept missing 70-90% hits on a consistent basis, sometimes twice in a row, only added fuel to the fire. Oh, and It also made me kill one of my favorite Conquest characters for the stupidest reason. Fuck RNG and fuck this chapter. I'm still enjoying the game but at this point I definitely like Awakening better, let alone Conquest.

Is Revelations also like this?

Lemme guess chapter 23/24?
 

Lynx_7

Member
Awakening also abused reinforcements and greatly rewarded low manning though...

It also generally had more interesting things going on. For all the shit people give Awakening's plot, it at least felt like they put in some effort there while Birthright just kind of goes through the motions. It's not bad but it's also just kind of there for the most part, not trying to do anything remarkable while taking you from map to map.
I also don't remember any of the maps in Awakening being overly long and having this many reinforcements, though it has an even worse problem of making them come out of nowhere and attack on the same turn. Comparing them solely on a first playthrough basis though I enjoyed my time with Awakening better than I currently am with Birthright even if it's arguably the "better" game.

Lemme guess chapter 23/24?

Not even, though now I'm dreading what these two will have in store for me.
 

Xamdou

Member
Trying to order the Amazon exclusive limited Fire Emblem If sound track from amazon.jp... to ship to the US so is the import taxes and custom duties already included in the total amazon bill?
 

Shinypogs

Member
She'd need to be grossly overleveled to survive a hit and her accuracy at 2 range sucks.

Speaking of which I saw a let's play where nyx and arthur were the two best units, but the price he paid for that is that it took so much exp to get them there pretty much everyone else suffered to the point where even camilla and xander fell too far behind to catch up.

Link? That sounds sorta like mangs lets play except effie was a top contributor as well there. I'm always open to watching more let's plays with characters performing well above the expected standard.
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Is Hayato the best pairup bot for a witch MU in birthright? I'm going to marry Saizo but don't want him as my permanent pairup partner. Please keep in mind that saku as is on healer duty and can't be my partner
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