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[TyphoonStruggle]

Needs chromatic abberation.

Most games shouldn't have it. It's great for Bloodborne, however. It fits the dreamy narrative of the game. FromSoftware is so good at drawing you into their worlds.

All those clean image purists, I think, under appreciate the art aspect of these games.

 

[metareferential]

All I see is a new Resident Evil.

Was typing exactly this. Damn.

 

[Comfort Jones]

Needs chromatic abberation.

Most games shouldn't have it. It's great for Bloodborne, however. It fits the dreamy narrative of the game. FromSoftware is so good at drawing you into their worlds.

All those clean image purists, I think, under appreciate the art aspect of these games.

This image must really disgust you.

 

[Nirolak]

All I see is a new Resident Evil.

Resident Evil looks a bit more like this these days, but I agree with your sentiment.

 

[MuchoMalo]

Why is DICE playing with UE4?

 

[SnowFlakeCake]

Meh, not impressed. With the engine From Software use, you can see it's not the best out there but it helps you appreciate the games made on it even more, to me it's a working mans engine and is something I can relate to.

 

[Nirolak]

Why is DICE playing with UE4?

Personal projects.

 

[Comfort Jones]

Meh, not impressed. With the engine From Software use, you can see it's not the best out there but it helps you appreciate the games made on it even more, to me it's a working mans engine and is something I can relate to.

.......

I genuinely don't even know what to say to this. A...a working man's...what?

What does that mean? These guys made a lesser engine, that's something I can relate to! Really?

 

[Raist]

Original is obviouly 100 times better.

Spoiler

The Doll <3

 

[Nirolak]

.......

I genuinely don't even know what to say to this. A...a working man's...what?

What does that mean? These guys made a lesser engine, that's something I can relate to! Really?

I kind of just assumed this was a meme about Luminous or some other struggling engine or something.

 

[Rymuth]

Which reminds me, I'm curious why FROM didn't jump on the UE4 train. Any particular reason?

 

[hateradio]

Needs chromatic abberation.

Most games shouldn't have it. It's great for Bloodborne, however. It fits the dreamy narrative of the game. FromSoftware is so good at drawing you into their worlds.

All those clean image purists, I think, under appreciate the art aspect of these games.

The overuse of CA was to overcompensate for not having real AA. So no. Maybe a little CA would be okay, but let's not get crazy.

 

[Jawbreaker]

.......

I genuinely don't even know what to say to this. A...a working man's...what?

What does that mean? These guys made a lesser engine, that's something I can relate to! Really?

It's a joke/meme.

 

[Nirolak]

Which reminds me, I'm curious why FROM didn't jump on the UE4 train. Any particular reason?

Switching engines can be time consuming, especially if you're making the same type of game repeatedly and your current technology is serviceable.

Note how Respawn is switching to UE4 for their Star Wars game, but just upgrading their Source variant for Titanfall 2, so they can ship it this year instead of early 2018 given they don't have a ton of staff.

 

[GrizzNKev]

Which reminds me, I'm curious why FROM didn't jump on the UE4 train. Any particular reason?

The rate at which they release games is very high. Switching engines means reworking your whole pipeline. It would take extra time to shift all that stuff over, likely too much time to stay on schedule.

 

[Comfort Jones]

I kind of just assumed this was a meme about Luminous or some other struggling engine or something.

Idunno man these people are genuinely reminding me of a friend who said Dark Souls wasn't made to be seen in 1080p. It's kinda stunning how people who have zero experience or knowledge with any aspect of what goes into visuals will make these weird arguments.

A working man's engine, seriously what in God's name does that mean? Like a AAA engine people pour thousands of hours of work into somehow isn't a "working man's engine"? That's kinda offensive.

It's a joke/meme.

Actually hard to tell at this point. My brain hurts. I've been worked into a shoot, help.

 

[Nirolak]

Idunno man these people are genuinely reminding me of a friend who said Dark Souls wasn't made to be seen in 1080p. It's kinda stunning how people who have zero experience or knowledge with any aspect of what goes into visuals will make these weird arguments.

A working man's engine, seriously what in God's name does that mean? Like a AAA engine people pour thousands of hours of work into somehow isn't a "working man's engine"? That's kinda offensive.



Actually hard to tell at this point. My brain hurts. I've been worked into a shoot, help.

Well, if it's a meme, someone said it legitimately first, so...

 

[Huge Succeeded]

This image must really disgust you.

That's not even Bloodborne as far as I'm concerned. Might as well be Central Park, it's too clean and realistic. It's sort of like when you remove the green filter from Fallout 3. Suddenly there's no indicator at all that you're in a post-apocalyptic world, I mean how are you supposed to even tell that there were nukes if the world isn't green? it's awful.

 

[Calm waterfall]

Personal projects.

How can he use the UE4 engine? Shouldn´t he pay license for using it?

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Pretty cool ahn!

 

[z3phon]

Which reminds me, I'm curious why FROM didn't jump on the UE4 train. Any particular reason?

Not sure about FROM but places I've worked at when we make our own proprietary tools and softwares, it just doesn't become feasible to abandon what we've invested and spent so much money on already. It also helps that everyone is very similar with tools they already have in house.

How can he use the UE4 engine? Shouldn´t he pay license for using it?

It's free.
https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4

 

[ExVicis]

Actually hard to tell at this point. My brain hurts. I've been worked into a shoot, help.

It can been in 1080p. That's perfectly fine, it just needs a little bit of CA to really add to it though. Just enough. I don't want it everywhere. As charming as the FromSoft flaws are I don't want them all over the place all the time.

 

[Nirolak]

How can he use the UE4 engine? Shouldn´t he pay license for using it?

Free engine, especially for this sort of thing: https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4

 

[Comfort Jones]

Well, if it's a meme, someone said it legitimately first, so...

The internet was a mistake.

 

[Skinpop]

Which reminds me, I'm curious why FROM didn't jump on the UE4 train. Any particular reason?

engines are more than graphics.

 

[Jawbreaker]

Idunno man these people are genuinely reminding me of a friend who said Dark Souls wasn't made to be seen in 1080p. It's kinda stunning how people who have zero experience or knowledge with any aspect of what goes into visuals will make these weird arguments.

A working man's engine, seriously what in God's name does that mean? Like a AAA engine people pour thousands of hours of work into somehow isn't a "working man's engine"? That's kinda offensive.



Actually hard to tell at this point. My brain hurts. I've been worked into a shoot, help.

I'm pretty sure it originated here.

 

[Memento]

I actually prefer Bloodborne's. The atmosphere is better realized.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Zelda U looks infinitely closer to WW than the remaster does. If Zelda U has that same horrific problem when you get in darkness where Link suddenly looks way too solid as if he's been ported into Garry's mod I'm gonna facepalm so hard I might get a concussion.

Ofc it's not exactly the same but still WW was a test bed for it.

That's not even Bloodborne as far as I'm concerned. Might as well be Central Park, it's too clean and realistic. It's sort of like when you remove the green filter from Fallout 3. Suddenly there's no indicator at all that you're in a post-apocalyptic world, I mean how are you supposed to even tell that there were nukes if the world isn't green? it's awful.

So to you none of the marketing screenshots whatsoever appreciate the art of a visual filter that gets in the way of the actual art.. what in the world is with the absolutely insane defenses in this thread about a heavily complained about visual feature that isn't featured in marketing. Like guys, wtf. It's insulting to FromSoftware to imply that without the CA the look of the game is ruined.

 

[Plum]

I actually prefer Bloodborne's. The atmosphere is better realized.

Same here, but it isn't because of Chromatic Aberration and a lack of AA since the promotional images without those capture the atmosphere as well. . It's hard to put into words exactly why, maybe because it's slightly lighter I don't know.

 

[Bedlam]

Needs chromatic abberation.

Most games shouldn't have it. It's great for Bloodborne, however. It fits the dreamy narrative of the game. FromSoftware is so good at drawing you into their worlds.

All those clean image purists, I think, under appreciate the art aspect of these games.

Yup, I absolutely agree with you. The CA in Bloodborne is part of the reason why the game looks so "dreamy". The recreations are nice but way too clean.

Same with noise filter and Silent Hill 2, for example. I always felt that people who desperately wanted to get rid of the noise filter and have a clean image instead were totally missing the point. The filter was there for a reason, it worked great in regards to what it needed to accomplish, it was an authorial choice if you will. Same with the CA in BB.

Have fun with your clean screenshots, tech guys, but that's not how design works.

 

[Wollan]

Funny hobby project but doesn't beat original as I see it.

 

[Calm waterfall]

Not sure about FROM but places I've worked at when we make our own proprietary tools and softwares, it just doesn't become feasible to abandon what we've invested and spent so much money on already. It also helps that everyone is very similar with tools they already have in house.


It's free.
https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4

Free engine, especially for this sort of thing: https://www.unrealengine.com/what-is-unreal-engine-4

Thanks.

 

[Persona7]

Needs chromatic abberation.

Most games shouldn't have it. It's great for Bloodborne, however. It fits the dreamy narrative of the game. FromSoftware is so good at drawing you into their worlds.

All those clean image purists, I think, under appreciate the art aspect of these games.

If it is such an important aspect of the visual style why was it added in at the last moment? It seems like a last minute thought rather than being designed that way from the start.

 

[Comfort Jones]

Have fun with your clean screenshots, tech guys, but that's not how design works.

This argument feels like it's coming from a place like the more educated a person is about how to make game visuals the less they know how to actually do it.

Also I'm pretty sure there was a slider or some kind of menu option that let you enable/disable that grain filter. Really shows how much the devs needed it there and how ignorant all us "tech guys" are lol.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

We need more Unreal 4 games all demos look so gorgeous

 

[Rymuth]

Switching engines can be time consuming, especially if you're making the same type of game repeatedly and your current technology is serviceable.

Note how Respawn is switching to UE4 for their Star Wars game, but just upgrading their Source variant for Titanfall 2, so they can ship it this year instead of early 2018 given they don't have a ton of staff.

The rate at which they release games is very high. Switching engines means reworking your whole pipeline. It would take extra time to shift all that stuff over, likely too much time to stay on schedule.

Cheers and thanks to you both. Very interesting.

Not sure about FROM but places I've worked at when we make our own proprietary tools and softwares, it just doesn't become feasible to abandon what we've invested and spent so much money on already. It also helps that everyone is very similar with tools they already have in house.

This was actually one of the reasons I would've postulated without sufficient knowledge on the matter. I would've suggested either familiarity with the tools or a bit of pride at any propriety software they've built. Hadn't taken into account the rate they ship out software.

 

[WaterAstro]

Real game is better, no doubt.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Funny hobby project but doesn't beat original as I see it.

The point isn't to "beat" the original. It's fanart.

 

[silva1991]

All I see is a new Resident Evil.

Funnily enough, someone made a thread last year comparing Souls with RE

I think Miyazaki can make a good RE game.

 

[Mivey]

That's not even Bloodborne as far as I'm concerned. Might as well be Central Park, it's too clean and realistic. It's sort of like when you remove the green filter from Fallout 3. Suddenly there's no indicator at all that you're in a post-apocalyptic world, I mean how are you supposed to even tell that there were nukes if the world isn't green? it's awful.

thisisbait.gif

 

[OmegaDL50]

Looks cool, though it's missing the "otherworldliness" of the actual game.

Is this like saying a racing game that lacks "soul"?

Was that a pun? Who knows.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

If it is such an important aspect of the visual style why was it added in at the last moment? It seems like a last minute thought rather than being designed that way from the start.

Was it though? CA was absent from some promo screenshots, presumably for marketing reasons (because screenshots look cleaner and therefore typically more attractive without CA), but what about game footage? Was CA absent from all trailers/footage showing gameplay too?

(Genuinely asking, since I avoided most trailers and went in blind.)

 

[Kysen]

Looks too clean, BB has some old looking filter on it. Which other than the jaggies still looks better.

 

[Alienfan]

Really don't understand the "original game looks better because it looks dream like" arguments - being constantly reminded by a visual filter that you're playing a dream just seems like it would immerse you less, the game's visual design and art should be enough to convey this message. The Chromatic abberation just makes the game look like 90s VHS tape at times

 

[Morrigan Stark]

just makes the game look like 90s VHS tape at times

 

[copelandmaster]

So... add CA and worse IQ = So dreamy, all the soul

Alright-y

I mean, come on. The shadowing in the UE4 version looks way better and has a massive amount of coverage! It has a major effect on the 2D and 3D foliage, vs BB which looks barren by comparison. Like the foliage doesn't have a presence in the world or anything (uh oh, there you go, that's "the dream", BB wins).

 

[Jawbreaker]

Is this like saying a racing game that lacks "soul"?

Was that a pun? Who knows.

No, it's like saying I don't think the UE4 shots capture the atmosphere present in the game. That shouldn't be difficult to understand.

 

[bsp]

Why is DICE playing with UE4?

It's just an employee of DICE doing a personal project.

How can he use the UE4 engine? Shouldn´t he pay license for using it?

UE4 is free for stuff like this. Commercial products they take 5% of past the first $30k I think.

 

[Lulubop]

So... add CA and worse IQ = So dreamy, all the soul

Alright-y

I mean, come on. The shadowing in the UE4 version looks way better and has a massive amount of coverage! It has a major effect on the 2D foliage, vs BB which looks barren by comparison.

I don't know about you but all my dreams have a chromatic aberration filter

 

[SSReborn]

That looks insane goddamn.