Tom Nook Sawyer
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June actually, for Japan (and March the following year for EU). But the N64 was an outlier as they haven't done it again since in Japan or on a worldwide basis
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Miyamoto: Nintendo can't comment on NX because of "an idea that we're working on"
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June actually, for Japan (and March the following year for EU). But the N64 was an outlier as they haven't done it again since in Japan or on a worldwide basis
killatopak
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NX comes with VR.
Full Dive System
Dr. Buni
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Regardless, the new console will likely be plagued with amiibo crap everywhere.Please don't let this be related to any sort of Amiibo figurines or "quality of life" or Cell phone integration. I'll be there day 1 for 1080p Zelda.
I still think March makes a lot of sense if they're trying to have a season all to themselves. Maybe March is a bit to early in the year (too close to the holiday, people's wallets haven't recovered yet), but a May release would seem perfectly reasonable. They probably don't want to release at the exact same time as the XBox Scorpio because it'd bring up a lot of unflattering comparisons.
They also have literally nothing coming out for the Wii U or the 3DS in 2017. If Pokemon is supposed to be the 3DS' swan song in November, that leaves both their platforms literally vacant while waiting for the NX to replace them. (I'm on the "separate handheld/console form factor that shares software" train, but even if I wasn't, they have clearly indicated that both are due for replacement) March would minimize that gap and pretty much five seconds after Pokemon comes out in November they can devote the entire four months between then and the NX release hyping up its launch library.
randomengine
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I wouldn't be surprised if the system itself had an NFC reader "shelf" built into it to place your Amiibo on, rather than the controller.
Skittzo0413
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You won't get a source because it's bullshit. Nintendo starting working on the Wii U gamepad well before the iPad became successful, and like you said it was an evolution of the DS.
Also it wasn't even originally going to be a touch screen- I believe they added the touch capability very late in development, wanting to focus on off-TV play and asymmetrical multiplayer far more than touch controls, and it showed.
So yeah Wii U was not inspired by tablets, anyone who spouts that is spouting nonsense.
Actually, I just misread it. In that case Just Dance would make no sense at all. First of all, why would it even have HDMI out if there's going to be a console which can play all of its games anyway? Second, why wouldn't they just wait until the holiday and launch Just Dance 2018 on it instead instead of porting it to handheld? I really feel like you're reaching here. There's enough information to safely say that a home console is currently targeted for a March 2017 release.
JinjoUnchained
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Vitality sensor!
for your junk
Tom Nook Sawyer
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I don't think Ubisoft's plans for the Just Dance series has any influence on what Nintendo's plans ultimately end up being. I am merely of the belief that we won't be getting a new Nintendo home console in March.
I'm talking about Nintendo's decision influencing Ubisoft's plans, not the other way around. It's pretty safe to say that NX was originally targeted for a holiday launch, right? So what you're saying is that Ubisoft decided to put an entry of an annual franchise on a handheld for the first time because it would be playable on a console a year later, at which point another new entry would be coming out. Do you see the flaw in this logic?
Gamecube in Europe...
Tom Nook Sawyer
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And I'm saying plans can change, which would then further influence Ubisoft's.
You seem confused by the points I've made. I think it's likely that the NX is a console, but if it is, I don't believe it's coming out in March; instead I am of the belief it would come out later in the year. But I also haven't fully discounted the idea that the first NX device could be a portable--that could come out in March--and that it might have more in common with consoles than they historically have, while not replacing them (so, not a "hybrid," at least in the sense of how some use that word around here)
I said "in Japan or on a worldwide basis," as in a simultaneous worldwide release. I had figured mentioning Japan made that clear, otherwise it'd be terribly redundant
Then, why would NX doesn't release in March after stating "It's coming in March" to everyone ? Like they'll delay the console with Wii U literrally dying on the ground (and Zelda still not coming).
I agree that not having a firm "March 2017" for Zelda BotW is quite alarming but dang...
I agree that not having a firm "March 2017" for Zelda BotW is quite alarming but dang...
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Wii U's been dead. There already is no momentum from it to carry, so another delay wouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
And Nintendo's announced a toooon of dates before, befire changing them--as with Zelda Wii U which was supposed to have come out last year
IceDoesntHelp
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Probably not hardware based to be honest. Its either the interface or something related to the os. If they are truly aiming for march 2017, they cant be doing many more hardware changes, can they?
You missed some recent comments from Aonuma, I see.
So, you believe that the second that Nintendo found that it wouldn't make it out this holiday they delayed it by a year, but lied to investors about it in spite of the fact that they hadn't announced a date before that, and that they also haven't told third-parties that it's currently aimed for a late 2017 launch... This is borderline conspiracy theory crap. Explain your logic to me, because I just don't get it. Why would they give a date they have no intention whatsoever of aiming for?
So, Nintendo doesn't delay anything, but rather they make up dates constantly. Okay.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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All of this is only true if you think it's impossible for dates to legitimately change prior to release
One of them being the next Metroid game.
But you're the one saying that the current date isn't true and your reasoning is that it's not a holiday date. Do you think Nintendo's gonna realize a few months from now that March isn't close to the holidays and thus will delay it to November? I don't understand. I feel like we're speaking different languages.
m.i.s.
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Since we're talking ideas, I've always liked this one courtesy of Johnny Lee.
Head Tracking / Wii mod
Over 10.25 million views. Wow.
Head Tracking / Wii mod
Over 10.25 million views. Wow.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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I never said the current date wasn't "true," in the manner you're using it. I've already said multiple times now that I believe if it in fact launches in March, that it won't be in the form of the typical home console as we've known them. But also that if it is the typical home console, that's what I don't believe would make its planned March release--but that also doesn't necessarily means it needs to be in November either.
I also think both possibilities could be true and we'll see a GBA/GameCube like release scenario
Refreshment.01
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im going by the baseless asumption that Nintendo will unveild the NX (or a componet of the NX ecossytem) 6 months prior to launch.
So if they unveil in September, March (add a month maybe) as announced is when they' ll launch NX.
But i do thnik your argument is quite solid here. Leaving aside what exactly they unveil (HandHeld, Console, Hybrid or Icecream machine)
ShockingAlberto
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Probably makes more sense to launch it in March than to just do nothing for nine months.
So, you believe that a console would be delayed to September/October/November just because it's a console... Yeah, we really are speaking different languages, since it sounds to me like you're saying that either it's a hybrid or a magical force will prevent it from launching too early in the year if it's a console.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Nintendo basically did nothing with the GameCube in its final year, before the Wii
I don't know why you keep falling back on the "hybrid" idea when I explained that's only the case if you also consider the PSP to be one, and that I don't believe it would be a console replacement. At any rate, it's fine if we don't see eye to eye on this. We'll hopefully find out soon what the device actually is and none of this will matter
m.i.s.
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March makes a lot of sense.
It gives Nintendo a good six months leading up to September to plan a global roll-out.
Let the Nintendo "crazies" / faithful have a six month window in readiness for the hardware. This gives Nintendo time to gear up for the Xmas / holiday season for the general mass market. It also gives NCL breathing room to put the finishing touches to their holiday software lineup.
It gives Nintendo a good six months leading up to September to plan a global roll-out.
Let the Nintendo "crazies"
/ faithful have a six month window in readiness for the hardware. This gives Nintendo time to gear up for the Xmas / holiday season for the general mass market. It also gives NCL breathing room to put the finishing touches to their holiday software lineup.
Smiles and Cries
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it is also really silly to launch near the Xbox upgrade
might as well just ride the Zelda train all winter through summer which has GOTY written all over it
seems ideal to me I'm already sold on a March bundle
make it a baby blue console to match the blue Zelda shirts
Refreshment.01
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i think i explained that in one of the Hyrbid threads, don't remember if it was you or other person.
PSP is not an Hybrid because it played portable games only.
EDIT: http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=208529109
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Certainly wasn't with me; not sure how this is relevant since I never argued that it may not only play portable games.
But even if it did, I don't think that makes it a "hybrid" device either, at least how many around here use the word, in that it would serve as a consone replacement
Kobun Heat
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On the other hand, delaying NX to holiday would mean the entire Q1-Q2 marketing budget would go to Dragon Quest VIII. That would be a great E3 booth.
Fourth Storm
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Yeah, there's got to be some mobile aspect to NX. That would make the March release alot more in line w/ their history. We'll find out soon, I hope. Tokyo Game Show seems like a good opportunity, as there will already be a ton of press to try it out, if only behind closed doors, as w/ the Wii Remote.
Refreshment.01
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i just limited myself to explain why the PSP isn't one.
The explanation linked, is through enoug. At least more than what one usually see when a person uses the word, which most times doesn't fit with what they actually have in their minds in the first place.
ShockingAlberto
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Smiles and Cries
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under 3 hours do we have any live tweet sources?
openrob
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Gameboy: July 31, 1989
GBA: June 11, 2001
DS: November 21, 2004
DSi: April 3, 2009
3DS: March 27, 2011
n3DS: February 13, 2015
Tom Nook Sawyer
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It did! ...for the Wii
Point is Nintendo's no stranger to dumb things, which sometimes leads to great things. And this "year of nothing" has actually already been better than several of Nintendo's other consoles in their final years, where 1st party published titles are concerned
In another post, you literally say that it'll be delayed to Q4 if it's a console for no reason other than being a console, and at the same time you think Just Dance might come to a handheld for the first time if the March date isn't a lie... but you're also saying that it's not a lie, which means that you think a handheld is most likely... but that's not actually what you think and what you really think is that it's probably a console and thus will be delayed to Q4. None of this makes sense. You're basically saying that a magical force prevents Nintendo from launching a console before September. That's literally what you're saying. You don't seem to understand that you're saying it, but it's what you're saying.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Yep, you're right. I actually do believe that a magical force literally exists. Glad we figured that out!
For the record, because you seem to have trouble understanding this: of course the possibility of it being an actual console and launching in March exists. It's just my opinion that one of those statements won't end up being true. Anyways, since you're seemingly being purposefully obtuse, I'm quite done discussing this with you for now
I'm not being obtuse; I just want to know why you feel this way, assuming that March is an actual target and not a lie, and if you feel that March may be lie I want to know what you think the reason for lying is.
That's where I'm at. Better to release it in March, sandwiched between the launch of Neo in October/November (assuming that's what happens) and the launch of Scorpio next October/November, than to launch head-to-head with Scorpio next Holiday when all the media attention is on it. Release NX with Zelda and Pikmin 4 in Spring 2017, have Mario and Retro's big project come out in Winter 2017.
I do tend to go with the idea that the NX represents two different products, a handheld and a console with a mostly-shared library, but it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever to have the handheld come out first if the point is to show off how great Zelda Breath of the Wild looks on the NX vs the Wii U version. If it does run on the handheld, Breath of the Wild will be downscaled even from the Wii U version.
Schnozberry
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I understand that pattern recognition is one of the core functions of human intelligence, but you have to ignore a lot of factors in favor of a myopic focus on previous release patterns in order to come to your conclusion.
But..but Paper Mario :/