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Prototype Controller Models

AmyS

Member
I remember some of the Dreamcast prototype controllers.

How about this crazy concept for the Dolphin / Gamecube controller?

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Not just the screen but also some sort of trackball on the left shoulder.
 

SOR5

Member
I wonder if there actually exists a Dreamcast 2 prototype from the early MS stuff that exists in some sort of prototype state. Even if it's just the shell.

To me the original Xbox isnt the Dreamcast 2 but the sort of younger western brother, more like a weird sibling than an offspring

I remember some of the Dreamcast prototype controllers.

How about this crazy concept for the Dolphin / Gamecube controller?

e7GG592.jpg


Not just the screen but also some sort of trackball on the left shoulder.

Woah what the hell is that?!
 

AmyS

Member
To me the original Xbox isnt the Dreamcast 2 but the sort of younger western brother, more like a weird sibling than an offspring



Woah what the hell is that?!

Those of us that were following Nintendo's Dolphin development during 1999-2000, all the way upto the GameCube reveal at Space World 2000 in August, remembers seeing that crazy concept controller someone drew up. It was posted on one of the Nintendo 64 or Dolphin fan pages. I don't remember which but I'll try to find the source. Maybe Dolphin Cove ? edit: N64pro something .com

I posted this in another thread months ago, and someone commented that it looked like something out of Splatoon.

smaller but clearer image:

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AmyS

Member
Looks like those weird third-party N64 controllers.

More M2 console / controller prototype concepts from different manufacturers.

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Was meant to launch in late 1996. (originally Holiday 1995 but that wasn't realistic). By mid 1997 was becoming too outdated and got scrapped.

Final specs (after some changes) GPU performance about 3X that of N64 - Dual PowerPC CPUs - 8 MB RAM - 4X CD-ROM drive. No upgrade card for original 3DO. Standalone next gen console.
 

chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
Fun fact: Sony was actively shopping around the idea of a stand alone UMD player to help spur the market a bit for UMD Movies (the market took off in a big way at launched but slowly cratered with the huge $30-40 asking prices per movie). The HD-DVD and Blu-Ray war pretty much killed it since there were just too many movie formats fighting it out on the shelves, but even if it didn't, the lower costs of memory sticks and rise of digital would have put the kabosh on that relatively quickly.

No one really knew about that, so source is me I guess. :p
 

AmyS

Member
Fun fact: Sony was actively shopping around the idea of a stand alone UMD player to help spur the market a bit for UMD Movies (the market took off in a big way at launched but slowly cratered with the huge $30-40 asking prices per movie). The HD-DVD and Blu-Ray war pretty much killed it since there were just too many movie formats fighting it out on the shelves, but even if it didn't, the lower costs of memory sticks and rise of digital would have put the kabosh on that relatively quickly.

No one really knew about that, so source is me I guess. :p

Makes a lot of sense given Sony had a lot invested in movies and movie formats.
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
Fun fact: Sony was actively shopping around the idea of a stand alone UMD player to help spur the market a bit for UMD Movies (the market took off in a big way at launched but slowly cratered with the huge $30-40 asking prices per movie). The HD-DVD and Blu-Ray war pretty much killed it since there were just too many movie formats fighting it out on the shelves, but even if it didn't, the lower costs of memory sticks and rise of digital would have put the kabosh on that relatively quickly.

No one really knew about that, so source is me I guess. :p

Funny enough, reminds me of this mockup. Where the PS3 was gonna have a UMD drive built in. It's cool we got TV-out on the PSP-2000 and PSP-3000 models though.

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Taker34

Banned
My favorite prototype controller :p
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I can only hope a wild PS3 banana one will appear on eBay someday - it probably won't be cheap though...
 

GrayDock

Member
I only saw this image once in an old magazine here in Brazil.

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Look how the L1-2/R1-2 are "called"...

How in the world would we call that? L1 would be Upper-Left-Point-Right Triangle?
Glad Sony used L/R1-2....
 
I have never, ever, EVER something so crazy as the "starpad" prototype controller. That Nintendo even publicized the pic is crazy - I would be ashamed to get something like this out.

I would have to have smoked a ton of weed to even consider this a viable idea.
 

SOR5

Member
I have never, ever, EVER something so crazy as the "starpad" prototype controller. That Nintendo even publicized the pic is crazy - I would be ashamed to get something like this out.

I would have to have smoked a ton of weed to even consider this a viable idea.

Its got to play like DJ Hero
 

Krejlooc

Banned

People always post this and call it a prototype jaguar controller but outside of this auction that wasn't won, i dont buy it. For one, we know where the "jaguar" controller originated - the atari jaguar controller is just a black atari falcoln controller. Two, the jag standard doesnt support 4 analog axises as shown, only 1. This thing is most likely a prototype of the spacetec orb, not a jaguar controller.
 

Peltz

Member
Killer thread. Surprised nobody posted the Nintendo PlayStation yet... I'm on mobile so could someone do the honors?
 
Does anyone have a picture of the N64 controller mock-up based on leaked info before the reveal? I think it may have been in Gamefan, but perhaps it was EGM. Loving this thread, btw.
 
People always post this and call it a prototype jaguar controller but outside of this auction that wasn't won, i dont buy it. For one, we know where the "jaguar" controller originated - the atari jaguar controller is just a black atari falcoln controller. Two, the jag standard doesnt support 4 analog axises as shown, only 1. This thing is most likely a prototype of the spacetec orb, not a jaguar controller.
Here's the story behind it. It is by Atari, made around Jaguar time, and ended up being released as the Spaceball Avenger.

http://spacemice.org/index.php?title=Mystery
 
The Nintendo Advanced Video System
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I got to see this one in person when Nintendo World NYC had it out on display circa... 2007? I took a load of photos since I knew they rotate displays frequently and I knew it might be my only chance to see it in person.
 
Ah, so I wound up being correct (it i indeed ultimately wound up being a prototype for the Space Orb). I suspected that was a serial mouse connection, not a Jaguar connection. So that controller really has nothing to do with the Jaguar at all.
Only somebody who was at Atari could really say what the timeline and original purpose of this prototype is.

Until then, I'm happy to call it a Jaguar prototype.
 

Krejlooc

Banned
Only somebody who was at Atari could really say what the timeline and original purpose of this prototype is.

Until then, I'm happy to call it a Jaguar prototype.

Knowing the history of the Atari Jaguar inside and out, this was never a Jaguar prototype for all the reasons I listed. Again, to recap:

-The Atari Jaguar controller existed way before the Atari Jaguar did
-The Atari Jaguar controller standard, the Atari Joystick Port, existed way before the Atari Jaguar did
-Flare, the people who designed and built the Jaguar, never showed this off, instead always using the Falcon Controller before even inking a deal with Atari
 

Sorcerer

Member
So Seamus Blackley posted these on twitter, the first designs for the original Xbox controller from Nov. 1999


Notice the VMU and swirls? They seem to have had a really heavy Dreamcast influence back then, say what you want about the Duke and beyond but i'm happy as hell we got those instead.

But why stop there, I thought it would be cool to carry on with some more, heres the Playstation 1


the purple outline seems to hint an NA Super Nintendo influence, not surprising considering how the Playstation was born. It's weird how this DNA spreads


This ones an easy guess, the Gamecube controller looked a bit lankier

Theres way more out there, feel free to post and discuss them, ill try to keep adding more

Cords underneath the controller was a bad idea that MS was going to carry over?
Sega perfected controllers with the model 2 Saturn controller. All they needed to do was to find a way to add 2 analogue sticks to it.
 

TheYanger

Member
Cords underneath the controller was a bad idea that MS was going to carry over?
Sega perfected controllers with the model 2 Saturn controller. All they needed to do was to find a way to add 2 analogue sticks to it.

None of those have the cord coming out fo the bottom, they have the vmu on the bottom (look at the buttons/analogs/dpads placements)
 
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