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[DownGrader]

Something is happening.... Something sad.

I think... I think i'm starting to lose faith in Miyamoto...

Pikmin 3 was announced in 2009 for Wii and turned out to be arguably the best one.

 

[Mr Swine]

If they're converting it to NX, I hope there won't be a Wii U version.
I understand that Nintendo doesn't want to piss off current Wii U owners, but they need some exclusive games on NX to sell some units.

They can release both versions, but focus on the NX version on ads?

 

[DeuceGamer]

It shipped under a million but this is going with 2015 data and who knows with Eshop numbers.

We also got the Nintendo Selects reprint which should have added some sales numbers. Did Europe and Japan get Pikmin 3 as a Nintendo Select?

 

[Sadist]

Pikmin always gets shoved back it seems

 

[aadiboy]

"A delayed game is eventually...blah blah blah" - Shigeru Miyamoto.

 

[Always-honest]

Pikmin always gets shoved back it seems

Yep. But well worth the wait.

 

[Diprosalic]

What happened to "pretty much done"?

It might be done but waiting for the NX. They don't always push out games ASAP.I remember getting the review code for Bayo 2 2.5 months before release. Might've been done for half a year for all i know.

 

[Hermii]

What happened to "pretty much done"?

Isnt there a saying in game Development that goes something like "the last 10% is 90% of the work"

 

[AntMurda]

http://gamerant.com/pikmin-4-update-miyamoto/

I imagine that they're just putting most of their work on Zelda at the moment (both are under EPD Kyoto I believe, but might be different teams, just guessing). Maybe it'll be a late 2017 NX game and not a launch title?

They probably have other projects better suited for launch than Pikmin.

 

[Simbabbad]

Funny how much drama can be created out of so little. The quote basically says nothing. The game could be 100% done and it's just waiting to go through external QA.

 

[Zalman]

Good. Likely an early NX game, I'd say. Pikmin 3 is one of Nintendo's best games ever so I can't wait.

 

[maxcriden]

Because these two statements, this statement and the previous one about the game mostly being done, seemingly contradict one another, surely there is either a translation error in one or both of these statements, or as speculated above the additional development load in wrapping up the game is significant. Still, to those maligning the idea that a delayed game is good, I think it's a philosophy that has almost always done good for Nintendo over the years. Additionally, to those losing faith in Miyamoto in general, I guess I would just mention that all responsibility for game development at the macro and micro level cannot possibly be on his shoulders.

 

[Acquiescence]

There was a Wii U game here. It's gone now.

 

[TriForce Hero]

I understood that Pikmin is a low tier priority for workforce programmers finishing the game...

like those projects that are on 90% but nobody works on it to actually finish.

 

[Aostia]

We don't know anything about their NX software output yet and there isn't any info in this statement either. Stop stating unfounded speculation as fact.

We know that a game "almost done" as been indefinetely delayed because they had to prioritize other games.
If a game near completion had to be delayed to the point that he doesnt even know when they will be able to re focus on its development, that sounds simply as the usual nintendo in terms of ability to manage a plurality of software outputs

 

[TVGamer]

Totally forgot this was a thing that they announced. I guess it's not pretty much done (or whatever they said).

 

[maxcriden]

We know that a game "almost done" as been indefinetely delayed because they had to prioritize other games.
If a game near completion had to be delayed to the point that he doesnt even know when they will be able to re focus on its development, that sounds simply as the usual nintendo in terms of ability to manage a plurality of software outputs

Totally forgot this was a thing that they announced. I guess it's not pretty much done (or whatever they said).

I don't think we have enough information to draw these conclusions, especially from translated statements. See below.

Because these two statements, this statement and the previous one about the game mostly being done, seemingly contradict one another, surely there is either a translation error in one or both of these statements, or as speculated above the additional development load in wrapping up the game is significant. Still, to those maligning the idea that a delayed game is good, I think it's a philosophy that has almost always done good for Nintendo over the years. Additionally, to those losing faith in Miyamoto in general, I guess I would just mention that all responsibility for game development at the macro and micro level cannot possibly be on his shoulders.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Translation: ''It's for the NX so we kinda can't talk about it''

To elaborate, it was fast tracked as a Wii U sequel, and then we saw how bad the hardware sales were so we sealed it in a vault for a few years.

 

[AntMurda]

To elaborate, it was fast tracked as a Wii U sequel, and then we saw how bad the hardware sales were so we sealed it in a vault for a few years.

I'm not sure why any rational mind thought an uannounced game in 2015 would be for anything other than the next console.

 

[MrSaturn99]

This better not take another nine years to come out, lol

 

[FaintDeftone]

I really hope they go the Pikmin 2 route and remove time limits. I really do not like the feeling of being rushed through those games.

 

[Travo]

Something is happening.... Something sad.

I think... I think i'm starting to lose faith in Miyamoto...

Starting?

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

That's a good sign.

 

[TheJoRu]

Something is happening.... Something sad.

I think... I think i'm starting to lose faith in Miyamoto...

You might be reading too much GAF.

Nevertheless, I don't know why this thread or anything he said about Pikmin 4 would change any opinions one could have about Miyamoto and his work.

 

[Nocturnowl]

I was beginning to think Miyamoto was just having a senior moment when he first mentioned Pikmin 4 being a thing, so it does still exist.

 

[AquaWateria]

Is this the I have no faith in Miyamoto or let's shit on him thread?

It seems like people are jumping to conclusions on minimal based information.

 

[buttdiver]

But it was "very close to completion" a year ago

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-20-pikmin-4-in-development-and-very-close-to-completion

 

[Onaco]

The order for our Pikmin amiibos are still processing. They will have full AI just like the Pikmin in the game, but in real life. Each Pikmin Amiibo will be $35 and stands a a centimeter. Please understand.

 

[Regiruler]

If they're converting it to NX, I hope there won't be a Wii U version.
I understand that Nintendo doesn't want to piss off current Wii U owners, but they need some exclusive games on NX to sell some units.

Or they could make games for the ground up for the NX and not artificially kill their own console even further?

 

[metalslimer]

Seems they will never be able to get a Pikmin game out on the console it was originally intended for again

 

[Obscuritas]

Seems they will never be able to get a Pikmin game out on the console it was originally intended for again

As long as we are getting Pikmin 3-quality, that's fine by me.

 

[10k]

Might not make year 1 of NX then. I was hoping it would. I assumed it would when he said it was a pretty much done.

 

[papo]

Wasn't this game done already? At least for the WiU, Sounds like they are moving it to the NX.

 

[Zalman]

Might not make year 1 of NX then. I was hoping it would. I assumed it would when he said it was a pretty much done.

You came to the opposite conclusion of everyone else in this thread.

 

[sixteen-bit]

But it was "very close to completion" a year ago

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-20-pikmin-4-in-development-and-very-close-to-completion

Perhaps they changes ideas in development and required a major redesign

 

[10k]

To elaborate, it was fast tracked as a Wii U sequel, and then we saw how bad the hardware sales were so we sealed it in a vault for a few years.

Sounds like this happened for more than one Wii U title. Luigi's Mansion 3 and Retro studios project could fit that bill as well.

 

[Pif]

That's what she said.

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

Sounds like this happened for more than one Wii U title. Luigi's Mansion 3 and Retro studios project could fit that bill as well.

Pikmin is a real thing though. The others are nothing but internet conjecture.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I'm done with any sort of PR lines until we see the NX and the games.

 

[Zombie James]

But it was "very close to completion" a year ago

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-20-pikmin-4-in-development-and-very-close-to-completion

Imagine the polish.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

I don't think it's anywhere close to finished. He probably meant the gameplay system is done and it's in a playable state from start to finished but still needs a massive amount of polishing.

Or we could have baseless conspiracies about "troubled development" but whatever.

 

[Freezie KO]

Secret best Nintendo franchise. I have no problem with them saving it for NX to give the series the chance it deserves. I just hope it wasn't clearly developed for Wii U and then held over for the next hardware.

As for controls, nothing beats IR pointer on a full HD screen. Great for the beautiful environments and handling lots of tiny creatures. I'm fine with regular dual analog though if they go with a more conventional control scheme this time.

I'd also prefer they bring back some more of the combat and challenge from Pikmin 2.

 

[Alebrije]

Pretty sure Pikmin 4 will come after two years of NX release

It's a great series , have all the games since Cube era , but it's no a killer IP that can change something.

Nintendo at this moment needs the big guys and Zelda is the best example , NX needs to succeed and other games like Pikmin will need to wait.

 

[wild wild rice]

take your time miyamotbro i got plenty

 

[Serenitynow]

Translation: ''It's for the NX so we kinda can't talk about it''

Translation: "We have an internal list of games and their order of priority. Now that the teams on Star Fox and some key NX launch titles are freeing up, hopefully it'll be easier to shift resources back to Pikmin. Launch title unconfirmed."

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I feel like people have inflated expectations of what "near complete" means.

It does not mean "near ready to print."

 

[Ushojax]

Miyamoto is always incredibly vague when he talks about projects that are not officially announced, I wouldn't read too much into this latest statement. It seems like they are having to spin a lot of plates at the moment but hopefully Pikmin 4 is one of them and will be ready sooner rather than later. Hopefully before the end of 2017.

 

[Kyzer]

Too many games at launch confirmed

 

[Azuran]

Something is happening.... Something sad.

I think... I think i'm starting to lose faith in Miyamoto...

I lost faith in Miyamoto a long time ago. It's been obvious for years that he completely lost it and has no business making games anymore.

 

[Already Torn]

Pikmin is the only series Miyamoto has been able to do right for years now. I don't know why they're waiting.