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[Madao]

it begins.

despite all the "hype" after seeing Cloud in SSB4, this will be a repeat of last gen and there won't be any mainline FF in a Nintendo console no matter how good it sells.

they'll get a spinoff at best.

 

[GhostTrick]

it begins.

despite all the "hype" after seeing Cloud in SSB4, this will be a repeat of last gen and there won't be any mainline FF in a Nintendo console no matter how good it sells.

they'll get a spinoff at best.

Cloud being in SSB4 is the same as Snake being in SSBB. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I wouldn't throw any console under the bus in relation to this game; it runs like garbage on a PS4 (based off Duscae and Platinum Demo).

E3 demo runs solid 30fps though dynamic res with 1080p most of the time according to DF.

Hopefully the final game lives up to that standard.

In general, people should not be expecting third party ports of huge games on NX just because of excitement. You'll only be disappointed if you get yourself hyped up too much.

If you see a "first on PS4" sign, your first inclination should be PC eventually and nothing more. XB is no longer viable, and NX, i'm sure many devs are waiting on to see how the market reacts

 

[Mediking]

it begins.

despite all the "hype" after seeing Cloud in SSB4, this will be a repeat of last gen and there won't be any mainline FF in a Nintendo console no matter how good it sells.

they'll get a spinoff at best.

I'm super hyped for FFXV and the NX but I'm buying FFXV on my PS4. There is no way I would double dip on FFXV on NX... UNLESS... there was Nintendo costumes.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I'm super hyped for FFXV and the NX but I'm buying FFXV on my PS4. There is no way I would double dip on FFXV on NX... UNLESS... there was Nintendo costumes.

That Peach

Spoiler

Stella

Luna outfit.

 

[casiopao]

Nintendo doesn't really push hard for any third party game to be on Nintendo systems. At least they didn't try the last two gens.

It is like people love to forget everything Nintendo had done for Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, Youkai Watch/All Level-5 title, Bravely series and many Bamco title on 3DS.T_T

Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3?

Now those count as Jrpg lol?^_^

Xenoblade bombed
Xenoblade X bombed
SMT X FE bombed

FFXV????

Xenoblade and Xeno X certainly does not bomb though. TMS performance is still to be determined as we are going to see how well they perform outside of Jp here.

 

[FZZ]

Pokemon GO WAS NX fam

 

[Mediking]

That Peach

Spoiler

Stella

Luna outfit.

YO!!!!!!!! CIDNEY IN A ZERO SUIT COSTUME!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET'S FREAKING GO!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GhostTrick]

E3 demo runs solid 30fps though dynamic res with 1080p most of the time according to DF.

Hopefully the final game lives up to that standard.

In general, people should not be expecting third party ports of huge games on NX just because of excitement. You'll only be disappointed if you get yourself hyped up too much.

If you see a "first on PS4" sign, your first inclination should be PC eventually and nothing more. XB is no longer viable, and NX, i'm sure many devs are waiting on to see how the market reacts

Yup. Pretty much anything that is first on PS4/console debut or console exclusive means it's coming to PC down the line, at least for Japanese games. XB1 is out of the picture and NX, unless also being a successful handheld with enough featuresets to run games intented for consoles, isn't happening.

 

[Inuhanyou]

YO!!!!!!!! CIDNEY IN A ZERO SUIT COSTUME!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET'S FREAKING GO!!!!!!!!!!

She doesn't even have the body for it though, i don't know why your so into cardboard guy.

 

[Mediking]

She doesn't even have the body for it though, i don't know why your so into cardboard guy.

Cidney has...a.... cardboard body?!?!? Are we talking about the same character???

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Which is why it took so long to get it localized for America right and when it finally did, it was exclusive to Gamestop? Ok.

It sold beyond their expectations in NA and EU? What the fuck is your point?

 

[Inuhanyou]

Cidney has...a.... cardboard body?!?!? Are we talking about the same character???

I'm sorry, i didn't mean to say she had a cardboard body.

I meant that she had the proportions of an actual wooden board

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Now those count as Jrpg lol?^_^

Why not? Or do we go back to "only turn based games are considered JRPG"?

 

[Mediking]

I'm sorry, i didn't mean to say she had a cardboard body.

I meant that she had the proportions of an actual wooden board

Inuhanyou... stop the LIES.

 

[Phediuk]

Expect to hear a lot of these kinds of announcements in the coming months and a lot of disappointed people who were SURE the third-parties would flock back to Nintendo this time.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Expect to hear a lot of these kinds of announcements in the coming months and a lot of disappointed people who were SURE the third-parties would flock back to Nintendo this time.

Nobody said that. Keep spinning narratives though. People said NX should be the process of getting third party back. You don't just get them all back overnight.

 

[Mortemis]

I could see KH3 coming to NX. It runs on UE4 so (assuming NX would support it since its a popular engine in Japan) it shouldn't be hard to port, and KH has been on Nintendo consoles for quite a while. Who knows though.

But mainline FF? Nah, I wouldn't bet on that. It could be a pain in the ass to port too because of luminous.

 

[Terrell]

So even a machine translation (that anyone could do to this site, I might add) makes this even more of a non-story despite people are making out to be a condemnation.

In a more casual and relaxed commentary, Tabata-san confirmed Gamereactor that his team is not considering this possible version NX, at least for now (thus belying the supposed leaked information), but at the same time the Japanese developer confessed that It has "high expectations" on the machine and is "looking forward" NX, adding immediately that feels the same about the Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild . The latter was quite normal because the game was the center of almost every conversation and questions during E3, and indeed the Japanese manager came over to ask what we'd like the new Zelda, because we'd just try it.

So yeah, this is truly a nothingburger that people are turning into "proof" that 3rd-parties intend to abandon Nintendo again.

Sure because it's FF. No reason to expect it to suddenly show up just because the machine can match the visuals. Wii didn't get FF XII either and that was a massive sales hit right out the gate.

It was also a time before a Final Fantasy multi-plat was actually a THING. That didn't happen until XIII.

 

[BasilZero]

I didnt expect it to come to a Nintendo system period.


The fact that KH3 still isnt coming out boggles me more lol.

 

[DangerMouse]

They revealed the game with the words "play it first on PS4".

It's totally coming to the Xbox and PC.

PC after a decent wait likely yes (like FF7). Xbox, probably not.

 

[Luigiv]

Why not? Or do we go back to "only turn based games are considered JRPG"?

No, it's not about the combat system or any individual mechanic for that matter, it's about the "aesthetic of play" or, if you prefer, the feel. Forget about what the J and W in JRPG and WRPG stand for; that's just a quirk of our industries shoddy naming conventions; if you actually consider how the two feel to play, you'll realise they're actually completely different gameplay sub-genres that goes beyond their country of origin.

Souls games simply don't have the feel of a JRPG but instead they are much closer to a WRPG, so to call them JRPGs just doesn't feel right. A Japanese developed WRPG feels like a more accurate descriptor. By comparison Xenoblade Chronicles, which also borrows very heavily from WRPG and MMORPG mechanics, still manages to keep the feel of JRPG in spite of all that, so I would classify it as a JRPG without hesitation. It's hard to put into words exactly why, but sometimes just obvious when you actually play.

 

[cw_sasuke]

I love GAF how shits on this game 99% of the time it mentioned...but now its the Holy Grail that will kill the NX lol - i forgot people love their 6month old rpg ports.

No one will give a crap about this game by the time NX launches, unless its the best game ever. GTAV, Minecraft and Co. are games where it doesnt matter when they are ported since they will always sell - not a FF game in this day and age.

Getting FF XIV is probably more important for NX at this point.

 

[Some Nobody]

Duh. They should worry about turning the rumored FF6 remake into a thing. That + NX Zelda would probably turn quite a few heads.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

No, it's not about the combat system or any individual mechanic for that matter, it's about the "aesthetic of play" or, if you prefer, the feel. Forget about what the J and W in JRPG and WRPG stand for; that's just a quirk of our industries shoddy naming conventions; if you actually consider how the two feel to play, you'll realise they're actually completely different gameplay sub-genres that goes beyond their country of origin.

Souls games simply don't have the feel of a JRPG but instead they are much closer to a WRPG, so to call them JRPGs just doesn't feel right. A Japanese developed WRPG feels like a more accurate descriptor. By comparison Xenoblade Chronicles, which also borrows very heavily from WRPG and MMORPG mechanics, still manages to keep the feel of JRPG in spite of all that, so I would classify it as a JRPG without hesitation. It's hard to put into words exactly why, but sometimes just obvious when you actually play.

Ah "the feel of JRPG". I would just call JRPG made by Japanese developers for the sake of simple explanation, Souls and Xenoblade are JRPG.

 

[Luigiv]

Ah "the feel of JRPG". I would just call JRPG made by Japanese developers for the sake of simple, Souls and Xenoblade are JRPG.

But how is such an arbitrary point, such as the country of origin, actualy a helpful distinction to anyone?

At the end of the day, the whole point of genres are so that we can quickly determine what games are similar or different to one another. Does classifying souls-likes as JRPGs really do anyone any favours? Like lets say your in the mood to play a JRPG, would Dark Souls actually scratch that itch?

Like I said, the naming convetions are shoddy and are mostly relics of an era when these sort of things were less well understood. It's probably best not to take the names too literally.

 

[samar11]

They'd be smart to bring KH3 to NX tho

Why? Do you know anything about the NX that we don't?

 

[Ghost Slayer]

But how is such an arbitrary point, such as the country of origin, actualy a helpful distinction to anyone?

At the end of the day, the whole point of genres are so that we can quickly determine what games are similar or different to one another. Does classifying souls-likes as JRPGs really do anyone any favours? Like lets say your in the mood to play a JRPG, would Dark Souls actually scratch that itch?

Like I said, the naming convetions are shoddy and are mostly relics of an era when these sort of things were less well understood. It's probably best not to take the names too literally.

I would rather understand its meaning like the way I said instead of using personal feeling. But this is off-topic so I just drop here. Thanks for replying me btw

 

[Famassu]

I wouldn't throw any console under the bus in relation to this game; it runs like garbage on a PS4 (based off Duscae and Platinum Demo).

Stop with this BS. Episode Duscaea was running perfectly fine, especially the patched version (large portions of the demo ran @ near consistent 30fps and even when the framerate did drop it was usually no lower than 25-27fps, that != "runs like garbage") and especially considering it was 1,5 years before the release of the game. Platinum Demo was a rushed little demo prepared in a very short time by a small team and iirc Tabata said they had just made some big changes under the hood that they didn't have the time to optimize for the demo, so that left it a bit rough around the edges. The show floor E3 demo was reportedly running quite well, almost locked 30fps, on both Xbone & PS4.

 

[Lights and Waves]

NX is getting a FF6 remake. Bookmark me.

 

[Z3M0G]

Who would have ever expected FFXV on NX?

 

[10k]

NX is getting a FF6 remake. Bookmark me.

Bookmarked.

 

[thepenguin55]

Whether or not it comes to NX is entirely dependent on how well the NX does. Plain and simple. If Square thinks they can make money with that game on the NX then it will come to the NX.

 

[Kouriozan]

Bethesda to announce they have nothing for NX soon
But yeah, Nintendo stopped getting mainline FF after 6, they are not going to magically get them again.

 

[TwistedFreeze]

Whether or not it comes to NX is entirely dependent on how well the NX does. Plain and simple. If Square thinks they can make money with that game on the NX then it will come to the NX.

But it's kind of a catch-22, isn't it? A system doesn't get strong third-party support initially so it doesn't sell and thus third-party developers don't bring their games over

Bethesda to announce they have nothing for NX soon
But yeah, Nintendo stopped getting mainline FF after 6, they are not going to magically get them again.

I don't see why not. The mainline Final Fantasy games are no longer exclusive to Sony. If the NX is capable of getting one, I don't see why it shouldn't. Not like the game wouldn't appeal to Nintendo fans

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

If third party launch nx games bomb, I don't see FF 7 coming.

 

[thepenguin55]

But it's kind of a catch-22, isn't it? A system doesn't get strong third-party support initially so it doesn't sell and thus third-party developers don't bring their games over


I don't see why not. The mainline Final Fantasy games are no longer exclusive to Sony. If the NX is capable of getting one, I don't see why it shouldn't. Not like the game wouldn't appeal to Nintendo fans

Yeah, but am I crazy or did Square already announce that the new Dragon Quest was coming to NX? I swear to God that happened. Also, it's probably not as clear cut as I said because FF15 seems like it's held together with duct tape and dreams, so the game would probably need to be a hit on other platforms before they could even consider bringing it to PC and NX.

EDIT: Here's what I was talking about: http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/28/9057139/dragon-quest-10-11-nintendo-nx-ps4-3ds

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Yeah, but am I crazy or did Square already announce that the new Dragon Quest was coming to NX? I swear to God that happened. Also, it's probably not as clear cut as I said because FF15 seems like it's held together with duct tape and dreams, so the game would probably need to be a hit on other platforms before they could even consider bringing it to PC and NX.

It's coming to PC regardless of if it's a hit or not. They either want to get people to double dip or doesn't want to outshine the upgraded neo version. Every FF game has been coming to PC lately.

 

[thepenguin55]

It's coming to PC regardless of if it's a hit or not. They either want to get people to double dip or doesn't want to outshine the upgraded neo version. Every FF game has been coming to PC lately.

Maybe but you'll probably be waiting for it if it's not a hit. If it's a hit I think they'll try to fast track a PC version and a NX version. FYI this is based on nothing but my gut. lol

 

[TwistedFreeze]

Yeah, but am I crazy or did Square already announce that the new Dragon Quest was coming to NX? I swear to God that happened. Also, it's probably not as clear cut as I said because FF15 seems like it's held together with duct tape and dreams, so the game would probably need to be a hit on other platforms before they could even consider bringing it to PC and NX.

Heh, I remember them doing that but I think they back-peddled on it. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if the new Dragon Quest ends up hitting the system, so as long as the system doesn't sell like the Wii-U. I'll probably end up getting it on my PS4 but it hitting the NX would be nice

There is that but wouldn't that be all the more reason to bring it to more platforms? I mean, with games being as expensive to make as they are

 

[diaspora]

Square confirmed DQ for NX right? If they said they're not doing FF, they're not doing FF.

 

[Calm Mind]

I see this as a blessing.

 

[thepenguin55]

Square confirmed DQ for NX right? If they said they're not doing FF, they're not doing FF.

Well my point was that Square has plans to support the NX, so I don't see FF15 popping up on the system at some point to be outside the realm of possibility.

 

[Scrawnton]

Stop with this BS. Episode Duscaea was running perfectly fine, especially the patched version (large portions of the demo ran @ near consistent 30fps and even when the framerate did drop it was usually no lower than 25-27fps, that != "runs like garbage") and especially considering it was 1,5 years before the release of the game. Platinum Demo was a rushed little demo prepared in a very short time by a small team and iirc Tabata said they had just made some big changes under the hood that they didn't have the time to optimize for the demo, so that left it a bit rough around the edges. The show floor E3 demo was reportedly running quite well, almost locked 30fps, on both Xbone & PS4.

Listen, with all the downgrades and disappointment this generations I do not trust a developer when it comes to representing what their game looks like. Duscae had a bad frame rate and was low resolution to the point that everything looked blurry. Platinum Demo was so bad, technically, that they were better off not releasing it at all. If they gave me a mainline Final Fantasy game that ran like any of those demos, I would be highly disappointed and lose a lot of respect for them.

I hope they get it together and make this game shine, but I'm just going to go in with my expectations in check after experiencing those two demos.

 

[jdstorm]

I'm super hyped for FFXV and the NX but I'm buying FFXV on my PS4. There is no way I would double dip on FFXV on NX... UNLESS... there was Nintendo costumes.

Even if the NX version was portable?

Edit: I'm just hoping it runs ok on the base ps4 and it doesn't need Neo to run effectively

 

[Mediking]

Even if the NX version was portable?

Edit: I'm just hoping it runs ok on the base ps4 and it doesn't need Neo to run effectively

Doing portable then being able to take it to console would be freaking amazing to me... especially considering my gaming habits these days.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

Nintendo hasn't gotten a "Main Series" Final Fantasy since 1994, I can't imagine why anyone thought that would change suddenly.

 

[BuggyMike]

Cloud being in SSB4 is the same as Snake being in SSBB. Nothing more, nothing less.

That and DQ being announced for NX is at least a good sign for SE and Nintendo's relationship going into the NX.

 

[Servbot24]

Seems very strange that anyone could have thought there was a chance of this happening.

 

[Auron]

Going to still hold out for the NX version. They have said they need to sell 10 million copies so that says to me an NX version is inevitable. Will be busy playing Dragon Quest VII anyway.