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[Roo]

LCGeek was a fraud/impersonator.

They have leaked Nintendo-related stuff for years now.
Accurately at that.
Please stop this bullshit

 

[maxcriden]

If it is a true hybrid, I wonder if you can buy just the HH or not. Seems dangerous to the HH market if not, assuming it would be pricy if they make you buy all-in-one.

She said that it would be close to Xbone, but even that's a stretch. It's very likely that what she meant is that "calling it close to Xbox One would be stretch," and thus that it's actually much weaker than Xbone. She'd be wrong about it blowing away Wii U, though.

I remember that tweet. The wording was vague and you very well could be right. But if she said it'd blow away Wii U, then, surely it's more powerful than Wii U if that's correct. Regardless, though the idea that the next Nintendo living room experience won't be visually more impressive than the current one befuddles me some, Nintendo does like to zag when I expect them to (move) zig, so we shall see!

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

X1 level hybrid is some high tech shit if it's in a handheld.

And thats why it may be expensive

 

[MuchoMalo]

They have leaked Nintendo-related stuff for years now.
Accurately at that.
Please stop this bullshit

Hence the "imposter" part. She claimed to have leaked things on another forum, under another name. How is that not suspicious?

 

[ika]

NX will end up being a WiiU-specwise with a distinctive gimmick. You guys are in for an incredible disappoitment if you are thinking otherwise.

I'm quite sure it's not gonna be a XBO/PS4 in terms of specs and technology.

And dont trust Emily...

With Nintendo it's usually good politics to have very looooow expectations, but really, even Miyamoto-graphics-are-not-important complained about Wii U's CPU while developing Star Fox Zero, and recently spoke about some problems with Zelda's physics engine... So they'll definitely try to do better this time with NX... But don't expect Scorpio specs either...

And I agree, don't trust Emily...

I hope it's not an hybrid... I have a 3DS for some great games, but I really prefer to play my games on the big TV, but not in an Apple TV-iPad AirPlay way with a HH as a controller... :S Also this set up will possibly affect negatively future games because Nintendo will develop games with the lowest requirements in mind, so things like XCX, Zelda BoW or Mario Kart 8 won't look as good as possible... Yeah, pure speculation and all, but I don't think a HH hybrid is good as a stationary console... If this is the secret about NX, and there's not a good "gimmick" or must-have games at launch, this would be the first Nintendo console I don't buy at launch since the SNES...

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

This is what he redacted? Huh. It'd be crazy if BotW really looked the same.

Even if the NX is a hybrid, I still expect it to look better than Wii U. I thought you'd said Emily said it was more powerful than Wii U?

It'll likely look better, there just hasn't been anything said about the visuals from those that matter in the discussion.
Reggie said as time goes by, they will go over the differences between the versions though.

 

[MuchoMalo]

This is what he redacted? Huh. It'd be crazy if BotW really looked the same.

Even if the NX is a hybrid, I still expect it to look better than Wii U. I thought you'd said Emily said it was more powerful than Wii U?

He didn't redact it; he just admit that it was his assumption.

 

[Rösti]

I would like to remind that this thread is primarily for the discussion of Nintendo's fiscal year and connected earnings releases, briefings etc. Discussions regarding the legitimacy of certain posters can perhaps be taken elsewhere. It would be dull to see this thread locked.

 

[Maxinas]

I'm really hoping for an official reveal announcement at the briefing, it doesn't have to be close by, 2-3 months to garner hype would help build some momentum.

 

[TLZ]

She said that it would be close to Xbone, but even that's a stretch. It's very likely that what she meant is that "calling it close to Xbox One would be stretch," and thus that it's actually much weaker than Xbone. She'd be wrong about it blowing away Wii U, though.

You're not doing it right. She mentioned it's using modern tech, not 5-6 year old tech. So while on paper the numbers might look xbone-ish, the modern hardware should output better performance. That's something she wouldn't know.

Edit: sorry Rosti, just saw your post.

 

[NeonZ]

You're not doing it right. She mentioned it's using modern tech, not 5-6 year old tech. So while on paper the numbers might look xbone-ish, the modern hardware should output better performance. That's something she wouldn't know.

There's the issue of Nintendo's low power consumption bizarre fixation. Or, if it turns out to be mostly a hanheld with a console version or handheld that can output to tv, the handheld design likely would hold things back for similar reasons (size, energy consumption).

 

[antonz]

Hence the "imposter" part. She claimed to have leaked things on another forum, under another name. How is that not suspicious?

LCGeek has been an active gaffer for over a decade. Credentials have been more than verified

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Yup look at the new tweet..

gotta be the brid

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

If it is a true hybrid, I wonder if you can buy just the HH or not. Seems dangerous to the HH market if not, assuming it would be pricy if they make you buy all-in-one.

My guess is that it would be a pretty large handheld- closer to a tablet size. Then in a couple of years when it gets cheaper to miniaturize, they'll make a pocket sized version and retire the 3DS.

It won't be X1 power in a phone sized housing.

 

[Eolz]

Hybrid seems like a terrible idea at this point in time.

edit: just saw Rösti's post. There wouldn't be those problems if Nintendo at least was giving a window for when they will talk about it...

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Uh, so what are the tweets that supposedly confirm it's a hybrid

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

Hybrid seems like a terrible idea at this point in time.

This thing is going to bomb so bad.

 

[Schnozberry]

I think a hybrid device makes a lot of sense, especially when you factor in the SCD patent. The device that remains in your home wouldn't need to be much more than a smart storage device with minimal processing power, or even a Chromecast type device if they are using game carts. The convenience features of a portable hybrid and HD Games on the go would be a much more compelling argument against the Raw Power of stationary consoles than attempting to bolt on another gimmick to a weaker machine.

 

[Doctre81]

Ut oh Emily just said that people that are fans of handhelds will probably really like NX...

 

[Vena]

Ut oh Emily just said that people that are fans of handhelds will probably really like NX...

Japan is saved!

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

Uh, so what are the tweets that supposedly confirm it's a hybrid

"When I say NX sounds expensive, I mean the gimmick sounds expensive. I stand by my report that this thing is closer to XB1 specs."

"And by gimmick, I'm talking more about NX's form factor. So anyways, keep an eye out for reports coming this week, and the following weeks."

And in response to a tweet saying that Nintendo said it wouldn't be a hybrid:

Nintendo says a lot of things.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

So, why are we talking about Emily's tweets without posting them

Edit - Thanks

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Now she said, "I never said it wasnt a home console" lol..

its gonna be a hybrid and im be vindicated

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

Japan is saved!

Not if it's expensive like she said every expensive Handheld has bombed.

 

[crooked spin]

it sure is great and useful that she beats around the bush and uses the vaguest language. sure would be boring if she just straight out answered the question "what is the NX's gimmick"

 

[Taker666]

This thing is going to bomb so bad.

Depends on the price.

If it's a sub $200 device, that's powerful but can also stream to the tv..it'll likely do pretty well with the handheld crowd.

If it's over $200 they are in a bad place as it prices them out of the traditional Nintendo handheld market...and the console crowd aren't going to happy at paying so much for an underpowered home console.

 

[maxcriden]

It'll likely look better, there just hasn't been anything said about the visuals from those that matter in the discussion.
Reggie said as time goes by, they will go over the differences between the versions though.

He didn't redact it; he just admit that it was his assumption.

Oh. It's very weird that he would claim Aonuma told him something and then say it was his assumption. I'm surprised there wasn't any fervor over that; maybe there was and I just missed it. Thank you both for the info.

My guess is that it would be a pretty large handheld- closer to a tablet size. Then in a couple of years when it gets cheaper to miniaturize, they'll make a pocket sized version and retire the 3DS.

It won't be X1 power in a phone sized housing.

Even for Japan, though, would they really introduce a new HH as part of a hybrid and make it too big to be easily portable? Seems like they'd be shooting themselves in the foot. (cue "I don't know how much you know about Japanese culture etc etc lol"--but I'm just speculating based on what I've gleaned about that market.)

 

[Sadist]

The more interesting thing is we're getting reports soon. If it's true what Emily says.

itshappening.gif? The gates are finally opening?

 

[Flare]

I don't think anyone can take more than two months of waiting for Nintendo to reveal the damn thing.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

If NX is actually a hybrid, there's a pretty good chance I'm buying BotW for Wii U and skipping this thing. I have almost no interest in that type of product.

I remain highly skeptical of such rumors.

 

[Jubenhimer]

I don't get why after all this time, people still believe it's a hybrid. I know people will say "Nintendo says lots of things" but when there have been numerous statements by previous management giving a description of what they plan to do to investors, that's a pretty obvious sign that it isn't a hybrid. Hell, I'm not even sure how that will be even practical.

 

[MuchoMalo]

The more interesting thing is we're getting reports this week and in the following weeks. If it's true what Emily says.

itshappening.gif? The gates are finally opening?

The meltdowns will be glorious.

I got the OK to post about her tweets if I make sure they aren't taken out of context. Emily says that she expacts major gaming publications to confirm everything she's said in her blog a few months ago. Not x86, not AMD. She said that what she heard sounds expensive in spite of being weak. It sounds expensive due to the gimmick/form factor.

 

[The Last One]

With Nintendo it's usually good politics to have very looooow expectations, but really, even Miyamoto-graphics-are-not-important complained about Wii U's CPU while developing Star Fox Zero, and recently spoke about some problems with Zelda's physics engine... So they'll definitely try to do better this time with NX... But don't expect Scorpio specs either...

And I agree, don't trust Emily...

I hope it's not an hybrid... I have a 3DS for some great games, but I really prefer to play my games on the big TV, but not in an Apple TV-iPad AirPlay way with a HH as a controller... :S Also this set up will possibly affect negatively future games because Nintendo will develop games with the lowest requirements in mind, so things like XCX, Zelda BoW or Mario Kart 8 won't look as good as possible... Yeah, pure speculation and all, but I don't think a HH hybrid is good as a stationary console... If this is the secret about NX, and there's not a good "gimmick" or must-have games at launch, this would be the first Nintendo console I don't buy at launch since the SNES...

With Nintendo, the best thing to do is to take the worst case scenario approach.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

I don't get why after all this time, people still believe it's a hybrid. I know people will say "Nintendo says lots of things" but when there have been numerous statements by previous management giving a description of what they plan to do to investors, that's a pretty obvious sign that it isn't a hybrid. Hell, I'm not even sure how that will be even practical.

Everyone has a different definition of "hybrid." Nintendo's use of the word may not match some Gaf'ers use of the word. More specifically, if it's a handheld that connects to the TV, there can still be a true console that comes later, thus to Nintendo, it's not a "hybrid," despite it having hybrid qualities. Aka, the exact thing I've been saying for a few months.

The meltdowns will be glorious.

Yes they will! Speaking of which, I'll take that apology whenever you're ready

Spoiler

Seriously I don't care lol. I'm just more happy I'm not as insane as some made me out to be

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

If NX is actually a hybrid, there's a pretty good chance I'm buying BotW for Wii U and skipping this thing. I have almost no interest in that type of product.

I remain highly skeptical of such rumors.

Depends on the defintion of Hybrid...

 

[Wildean]

If NX is actually a hybrid, there's a pretty good chance I'm buying BotW for Wii U and skipping this thing. I have almost no interest in that type of product.

I remain highly skeptical of such rumors.

A hybrid would basically be Wii U 2.0 I imagine. Or similar to PS4 remote play, which nobody cares about. I can't think of anything interesting they could do with gameplay that wasn't possible on Wii U. Just seems an awful idea to me. Hope it's not.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Depends on the defintion of Hybrid...

I have always assumed a hybrid is referring to both a console and handheld in one. Whether that means the handheld hooks up to the TV directly via HDMI or it sits in a docking station that is connected to the television. Or, like the poster above said, something similar to Vita's remote play.

It's the type of feature almost no one in the west is going to care about. Now, the NX being an ecosystem with separate form factors could be really great. A console or handheld, each purchased separately, that share the same library. That's not a hybrid and it's also an awesome idea if implemented correctly.

 

[Wildean]

Depends on the defintion of Hybrid...

A home console which comes packed with a controller with a built in screen that can also be used as a portable. What other definitions are there?

 

[Doctre81]

If NX is actually a hybrid, there's a pretty good chance I'm buying BotW for Wii U and skipping this thing. I have almost no interest in that type of product.

I remain highly skeptical of such rumors.

You gonna buy it regardless don't kid yourself. lol

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

A hybrid would basically be Wii U 2.0 I imagine. Or similar to PS4 remote play, which nobody cares about. I can't think of anything interesting they could do with gameplay that wasn't possible on Wii U. Just seems an awful idea to me. Hope it's not.

No a Hybrid would be two devices which uses the same type of media to play games on either or...you can have more power when playing on the tv using the supplemental power supply. And the other device can play the games standalone.

Thats a hybrid too.

 

[EDarkness]

Damn, this thread is a haven for negativity. Sheesh. Even if taking Emily at face value, she said it's around XB1 level of power and people are saying it's going to be Wii U level. I don't even understand that.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

You gonna buy it regardless don't kid yourself. lol

I'ts certainly possible, but that game lineup's gonna' need to be really fantastic for me to get over the fact I'm purchasing a freaking hybrid!

 

[OrbitalBeard]

No a Hybrid would be two devices which uses the same type of media to play games on either or...you can have more power when playing on the tv using the supplemental power supply. And the other device can play the games standalone.

Thats a hybrid too.

That's not a hybrid. Well....I guess it is if they're both included in the same box. I could actually live with something like this, but the price would be outrageous, I'd imagine.

Edit - shit double post, sorry

 

[KingBroly]

I really don't want this thing to be 2 devices you buy at once. It sounds like a horrible idea.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Schrodinger's console.

 

[Proelite]

Really?

People are disappointed in a powerful portable that has a HDMI output?

That's like the ultimate handheld.

 

[lwilliams3]

Everyone has a different definition of "hybrid." Nintendo's use of the word may not match some Gaf'ers use of the word. More specifically, if it's a handheld that connects to the TV, there can still be a true console that comes later

Basically. There are at least three variations on hardware that can be labeled as a hybrid:

Hybrid 1: Two separate stand-alone systems. Plays most/all of the same games.

Hybrid 2: A portable with a base that will connect for the console counterpart.

Hybrid 3: One portable unit that can be connected to a TV.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

That's not a hybrid. Well....I guess it is if they're both included in the same box. I could actually live with something like this, but the price would be outrageous, I'd imagine.

Edit - shit double post, sorry

What would you call that? That's some of our interpretations of a Hybrid console. A supplemental device aint a console.

 

[Rösti]

𝙽𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚘 𝙲𝚘., 𝙻𝚝𝚍. (Japan) will be closed between 𝒜𝓊ℊ 𝟏𝟎-𝟏𝟔, also on 𝒜𝓊ℊ 𝟐𝟔 due to Golden Week(s) (ゴールデンウィー&#12463, I have been told. Therefore announcements on upcoming products and services ought to not be expected on those dates. NoA will remain open though.

 

[Plinko]

I'm not convinced that a hybrid that can play Android games as well is a guaranteed bomba, especially if it has a great pricepoint.

Maybe Emily said this today because they're preparing to announce something at the fiscal conference.

The only other "form factor" issue I could see driving up price? A phone.