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4chan rumors: HUGE Final Fantasy XV spoilers (plot, gameplay) + dev talk

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Toth

Member
I am sure Prima has had to have an advanced copy by now right? Anyone working on the mega strategy guide could be a leaker in that case.
 
I'm a lot more enthusiastic now given these latest 4chan leaks over the initial batch.

Immediate takeaway to reaffirm their authenticity is to expect a 5 1/2 minute trailer at Gamescom (in a little over 2 weeks) along with the new demo that culminates in a
__Leviathan__
fight.
Plus, a launch trailer at TGS in mid-September.

For gamescom leaker #2 said expect a lengthy story trailer, Prompto DLC (which was said before the season pass announcement) and also that the gamescom demo is
chapter 0 involving a fight with ifrit 10 years in the future

What doesn't make sense is that Tabata already said we'd see more Leviathan which this person said nothing about.
 
Meh. Most of it is nonsense. As someone with the advanced copy that includes the full game: It is absolutely nonsense.
You working on the official guide for the game or what?

I am sure Prima has had to have an advanced copy by now right? Anyone working on the mega strategy guide could be a leaker in that case.
Piggyback are doing the guide for it that will have all the details including world map and stuff. Advanced copy is possible.
 

KupoNut

Member
It's rare for employees to have access to the full game and story. The leaker probably is involved in PR and therefore able to point out some event related stuff, but there's no way that he has all that other info. It's probably just speculation.
 
Ah, thank you for the correction. The Piggyback book looks great.

I bought the TPP CE guide and it was a thing of beauty! Expecting the same from them.

Tpp had 400 pages. ( my guide says 415 Amazon can be off a few pages )
XV 352 according to Amazon.
 
It's rare for employees to have access to the full game and story. The leaker probably is involved in PR and therefore able to point out some event related stuff, but there's no way that he has all that other info. It's probably just speculation.

I think you've got this mixed up. Employees of the studio are far more likely to know every detail than...well...almost anyone.
 

KupoNut

Member
I think you've got this mixed up. Employees of the studio are far more likely to know every detail than...well...almost anyone.

I know people working on other games with large teams like this, and they really know almost nothing aside from the current task/case and have a debug environment to test it in, most of the time they don't have access to the full game and get their info about the full game from trailers and PR. The leaker would have to be pretty high up the development hierarchy to know all of this information.

I guess part of it is true and he's just someone in charge of PR or the guide.
 

Teletraan1

Banned
Sounds straight up bullshit. You're not doing significant changes to a game coming out four months from now.

You also don't patch demos based on user feedback but here we are. This game has not had a normal development cycle full stop. All of this is believable.
 
I know people working on other games with large teams like this, and they really know almost nothing aside from the current task/case and have a debug environment to test it in, most of the time they don't have access to the full game and get their info about the full game from trailers and PR. The leaker would have to be pretty high up the development hierarchy to know all of this information.

I guess part of it is true and he's just someone in charge of PR or the guide.

I think he's full of shit until verified.
 

12BoM

Member
ok this guy needs to be confirmed already... wait is killer lol.

highkey think hes legit and has the game haha
 
I give credit to 4chan or whoever the "leaker" is
I mean,is been a while since these rumors were posted and we are still discussing them.
The guy did he's home work.
 
I know people working on other games with large teams like this, and they really know almost nothing aside from the current task/case and have a debug environment to test it in, most of the time they don't have access to the full game and get their info about the full game from trailers and PR. The leaker would have to be pretty high up the development hierarchy to know all of this information.

That's very, very strange lol I'm not about to ask what developers your friends work for, but if they're having to get information about the game they're working on from trailers and PR, rather than from colleagues who they work in the same building with, then that's pretty bad team communication. That isn't normal at all.
 

Teletraan1

Banned
Geez, the game is not out yet but spoilers are everywhere already.

It amazes me that how can people enjoy the game later if they've already been spoiled all over the place.

Knowing what happens in something is not the same as watching it play out. Was the end of Titanic or any movie based around real life events bad for you because you knew what was going to happen? If you figured out plot twists prior to them being revealed as you watched a movie does it harm your enjoyment? Have you never re watched a movie or replayed a game? Why is your enjoyment of something tied to your lack of knowledge about said thing?
 

benzy

Member
I give credit to 4chan or whoever the "leaker" is
I mean,is been a while since these rumors were posted and we are still discussing them.
The guy did he's home work.

You mean we're discussing them again now that a neogaf user claims to have an advanced copy and completely dismisses the OP leaks, not to mention a new set of possibly fake leaks on 4chan furthering the discussion? lol
 

notaskwid

Member
For people late to the thread, the OP ended up being down to a weird user who had like 12 different accounts between 4chan and Gamefaqs, and had endless arguments between his sockpuppets, basically shitting up every FFXV thread for years with fake theories. People found he'd been doing this for years beforehand with FFXIII too and made all sorts of R34 porn of FF characters.

He was a really weird person who was also behind the Kingsglaive spoilers, a bunch of stuff he said was contradicted by stuff that had already been announced/shown, didn't make any sense on its own, or was contradicted later.

^this is what I mean

If that is true, then this is basically his job, of course he knows what he is doing :p
 
You mean we're discussing them again now that a neogaf user claims to have an advanced copy and completely dismisses the OP leaks, not to mention a new set of possibly fake leaks on 4chan furthering the discussion? lol

There's this too, the most important imo:

For people late to the thread, the OP ended up being down to a weird user who had like 12 different accounts between 4chan and Gamefaqs, and had endless arguments between his sockpuppets, basically shitting up every FFXV thread for years with fake theories. People found he'd been doing this for years beforehand with FFXIII too and made all sorts of R34 porn of FF characters.

He was a really weird person who was also behind the Kingsglaive spoilers, a bunch of stuff he said was contradicted by stuff that had already been announced/shown, didn't make any sense on its own, or was contradicted later.
 

Ydelnae

Member
The people behind the two most reliable leaks said they didn't have access to the actual game and that everything the knew/saw was shown to them was by a S-E europe employee. Not to give any credibility to them, but they didn't say the played the game. Also, most of the stuff they claimed as info about the plot, characters, etc, were guesses made on the comments this allegued employee made.
 

Eolz

Member
I know people working on other games with large teams like this, and they really know almost nothing aside from the current task/case and have a debug environment to test it in, most of the time they don't have access to the full game and get their info about the full game from trailers and PR. The leaker would have to be pretty high up the development hierarchy to know all of this information.

I guess part of it is true and he's just someone in charge of PR or the guide.

Sounds like you just know some QA testers. Most devs, even juniors, know about the game they're working on.
 
For gamescom leaker #2 said expect a lengthy story trailer, Prompto DLC (which was said before the season pass announcement) and also that the gamescom demo is
chapter 0 involving a fight with ifrit 10 years in the future

What doesn't make sense is that Tabata already said we'd see more Leviathan which this person said nothing about.

Doesn't it even make you curious to how these guys come to the decision to make up a rumor?

"Hmmm, I'm bored. Girlfriend's visiting her parents, all my friends are busy. Nothing on Netflix is interesting me. Sooooo bored! I know! I can make up a rumored leak!!! Give me some time to stretch my imagination, come up with some things that sounds plausible so that people can believe it. The more people questioning it and not writing it off, more the success! Them feels! Them jolts of power over people who actually BELIEVE ME!!! I drink it up, it sustains me!!!"
 

KupoNut

Member
Sounds like you just know some QA testers. Most devs, even juniors, know about the game they're working on.

Contracted developers. Of course they know what game they're working on but they know little about it story-wise, artists don't even have Visual Studio and don't have/need access to the game's code too. I'm 100% sure that a FFXV dev wouldn't be able to have access to story documentation, scripts or cutscenes unless he's directly involved in that area.

Those latest leaks sound reasonable and kinda nice, if true. True or not, too late to change things right now.
 
For people late to the thread, the OP ended up being down to a weird user who had like 12 different accounts between 4chan and Gamefaqs, and had endless arguments between his sockpuppets, basically shitting up every FFXV thread for years with fake theories. People found he'd been doing this for years beforehand with FFXIII too and made all sorts of R34 porn of FF characters.

He was a really weird person who was also behind the Kingsglaive spoilers, a bunch of stuff he said was contradicted by stuff that had already been announced/shown, didn't make any sense on its own, or was contradicted later.
Hey, be careful how you use the term OP before I get hounded :p
 

Ydelnae

Member
All I want to know if
Noctis will live in the end or not. I do not want him dead
.

From the last leak or whatever you all want to call this, the person spreading information said that he saw an artwork and concept art for the final scene of the game with Noctis sitting in a throne and Luna at his side.

It would be funny if the game ends with a reworked version of this scene

ca363a4e4e72ec5dc9a7b9995d1da3a9.jpg
 

paolo11

Member
From the last leak or whatever you all want to call this, the person spreading information said that he saw an artwork and concept art for the final scene of the game with Noctis sitting in a throne and Luna at his side.

It would be funny if the game ends with a reworked version of this scene

ca363a4e4e72ec5dc9a7b9995d1da3a9.jpg

Damn, really? Show me the link, brother.

Reminds me of Dracula in SOTN.
 

Eolz

Member
Contracted developers. Of course they know what game they're working on but they know little about it story-wise, artists don't even have Visual Studio and don't have/need access to the game's code too. I'm 100% sure that a FFXV dev wouldn't be able to have access to story documentation, scripts or cutscenes unless he's directly involved in that area.

Those latest leaks sound reasonable and kinda nice, if true. True or not, too late to change things right now.

So external/outsourced concept artists or similar? Yeah, they're not really part of the dev team then (they're essential to development, but don't need to know that). I can guarantee you that a core member, even low ranked, would have access to that though.
 
Contracted developers. Of course they know what game they're working on but they know little about it story-wise, artists don't even have Visual Studio and don't have/need access to the game's code too. I'm 100% sure that a FFXV dev wouldn't be able to have access to story documentation, scripts or cutscenes unless he's directly involved in that area.

Those latest leaks sound reasonable and kinda nice, if true. True or not, too late to change things right now.

Um, this far into development I'd be extremely shocked if a developer on FFXV didn't have full access to everything going into the game. Regardless of whether you're an artist, engineer, designer or coder, you'd NEED a working knowledge of the game from start to finish. Hell, a lot of the time even the community team would if they're in-house. Even if he/she didn't have direct access to documentation, there's little chance that they wouldn't know.

What you're talking about sounds like outsourced contract work.
 
What about the plague of the stars though? And the 3 shadow-y figures at the end of the dawn trailer?
I hope Ravus doesn't die though. Based on what happened in Kingsglaive, it'd be pretty sad if they kill him off after everything that happened with his homeland and all.
 

KHlover

Banned
Isn't a whole lot of lies and nonsense told on 4chan? I never visit that site though.

Yes. There's also lots of lies and nonsense told on GAF or reddit. Lots of valid leaks on all of those sites regardless. You can't disqualify leaks based on the site they originate from, especially not on sites with user-driven content.
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
We have

1. People waiting on the one user who claims to have an advanced copy to be verified.

2. New people coming in here and commenting on the already questioned OP information that is likely false.

Perhaps if number 1 is clarified, this thread can finally die.
 
We have

1. People waiting on the one user who claims to have an advanced copy to be verified.

2. New people coming in here and commenting on the already questioned OP information that is likely false.

Perhaps if number 1 is clarified, this thread can finally die.


I agree,How come Falk and Kagari wont close this thread already?
Even if we have one user who claims to have the advanced copy, so what-
Is not like he's obligated to tell us anything.
 

Mcdohl

Member
From the new leaks...which I refuse to read...can anyone just answer this so I can be at peace?

Are towns 'big' and are there more than Lestallum and Altissia?

No, I don't expect them to be as big as a GTA city, that's unreasonable, but as long as they are more than small hubs and there's a couple of them I can be at peace (like old school RPGs heh).
 

Ray Down

Banned
From the new leaks...which I refuse to read...can anyone just answer this so I can be at peace?

Are towns 'big' and are there more than Lestallum and Altissia?

No, I don't expect them to be as big as a GTA city, that's unreasonable, but as long as they are more than small hubs and there's a couple of them I can be at peace (like old school RPGs heh).

Yes.
 

Koozek

Member
I agree,How come Falk and Kagari wont close this thread already?
Even if we have one user who claims to have the advanced copy, so what-
Is not like he's obligated to tell us anything.

It's basically policy here that when you claim insider knowledge you have to back it up, otherwise you'll get banned. What's the status on that, Kagari?

And yeah, this thread should be closed.
 
Any leak that lists
Doomtrain
as a summon is utter horseshit, in regards to the newer 4chan rumors.

He also mentions a
secret boss in the colosseum which anyone who has been paying attention knows Tabata stated we cannot personally fight in.

Tread warily guys, these leaks are fake as heck and honestly a lot of them are too good to be true.
 
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