They'll live.
This is, in all likelihood, the story of a man stealing from himself. I'm sure everyone involved knows that.
Which would not be a real defense against what he is being accused of.
Not legally
They'll live.
This is, in all likelihood, the story of a man stealing from himself. I'm sure everyone involved knows that.
They'll live.
This is, in all likelihood, the story of a man stealing from himself. I'm sure everyone involved knows that.
Right, and it's how people work that I don't give two shits about the squabbling of two multinational corporations when the offense in question boils down to a man stealing from himself.Sure, he may have taken code that he created himself, but if he did it on Zenimax's time, then it is not his.
That's how companies work.
Why didn't he copy those files before he left or keep personal backups before?
After his contract was terminated he was still allowed access the zenimax building.
Fucking derp. Basic security 101 failure on zenimax's part.
Can't wait for Fincher's movie.
If it's true then it's not stealing from himself; it's stealing from Zenimax. If he wanted to own his own code then he should've left after Zenimax acquired id. Code written on Zenimax's time and money would belong to them. This is how the real world works.Right, and it's how people work that I don't give two shits about the squabbling of two multinational corporations when the offense in question boils down to a man stealing from himself.
This part on Iribe doesn't sound so hot either if true (from same article):
Which would not be a real defense against what he is being accused of.
Not legally
I'm not making an assessment on whether or not he'll win the case; indeed, any such commentary by anyone in this thread would rate somewhere between greatly misinformed and grossly misinformed.Pro tip: Don't use that defense in court. Ever.
Not everyone can be Ronnie Barrett.Yikes if true. I was always impressed by that prototype-in-garage-at-a-young-age story
Further, the suit increases its allegations that Palmer Luckey is not the inventor of contemporary virtual reality. In the original filing, Zenimax states that "Luckey increasingly held himself out to the media and the public as the visionary developer of the Rift’s VR Technology, which had actually been developed by ZeniMax without Luckey’s involvement."
The similar passage from the amended complaint is far more damning, suggesting that Iribe knowingly spread a tall tale about Luckey creating VR in his parents' garage. "Oculus, at Iribe’s direction, disseminated to the press the false and fanciful story that Luckey was the brilliant inventor of VR technology who had developed that technology in his parents’ garage," the new document reads. "In fact, that story was utterly and completely false: Luckey lacked the training, expertise, resources, or know-how to create commercially viable VR technology, his computer programming skills were rudimentary, and he relied on ZeniMax's computer program code and games to demonstrate the prototype Rift. Nevertheless, this fraudulent tale was frequently reported in the media as fact. Luckey increasingly and falsely held himself out to the media and the public as the visionary developer of the Rift’s VR Technology, which had actually been developed by ZeniMax without any substantial contribution from Luckey."
All of a sudden y'all got law degrees!If it's true then it's not stealing from himself; it's stealing from Zenimax. If he wanted to own his own code then he should've left after Zenimax acquired id. Code written on Zenimax's time and money would belong to them. This is how the real world works.
All of a sudden y'all got law degrees!
Again, no comment on the projected outcome of the case, except to say that it would be stupid to base the veracity of Zenimax's claims on... Zenimax's claims. I'm just saying that even if he loses I don't really think he did anything wrong.
This part on Iribe doesn't sound so hot either if true (from same article):
Sure, he may have taken code that he created himself, but if he did it on Zenimax's time, then it is not his.
That's how companies work.
Losing a civil case absolutely does not mean you did something wrong.If he loses, by definition he did something wrong ...
All of a sudden y'all got law degrees!
Again, no comment on the projected outcome of the case, except to say that it would be stupid to base the veracity of Zenimax's claims on... Zenimax's claims. I'm just saying that even if he loses I don't really think he did anything wrong.
You probably should have a law degree if you're going to be evaluating whether or not a contract has been violated. You should probably also have access to the contract.You don't need a law degree to know that you don't own anything you make when you're on the clock at a company. All you need is to have worked for a company where you have to sign a contract, they're all the same (relatively).
Sorry your hero (allegedly) fucked up.
All of a sudden y'all got law degrees!
Again, no comment on the projected outcome of the case, except to say that it would be stupid to base the veracity of Zenimax's claims on... Zenimax's claims. I'm just saying that even if he loses I don't really think he did anything wrong.
Yikes if true. I was always impressed by that prototype-in-garage-at-a-young-age story
You probably should have a law degree if you're going to be evaluating whether or not a contract has been violated. You should probably also have access to the contract.
He's not my hero, just someone who I personally have a lot of respect for.
If it wasn't in the contract, why would Zenimax be going up against the giant that is Facebook that they knew they could not win because they didn't have the law on their side?You probably should have a law degree if you're going to be evaluating whether or not a contract has been violated. You should probably also have access to the contract.
He's not my hero, just someone who I personally have a lot of respect for.
This part on Iribe doesn't sound so hot either if true (from same article):
As much as I understand it, every programmer is guilty of this kind of theft.
Zenimax's VR Solution: "There's money in those words. We doing anything? Let's play it safe and say we are. VR Fallout. Yeah."Yeesh. Can't take work from one place to the other, that's pretty cut and dry.
Have we heard anything about Zenimax's VR solution or did they give up after this saga took shape?