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Xbox One S Thread: The S is for Sexy

jadedm17

Member
lol k so, I got the batman v superman 4K disc because i wanted to watch that extended cut. I figured "well, i know am getting a One S, and will get a 4K tv at some point, so why not just grab one so I can have a disc whenever I do." It does have a regular blu-ray in the package as well, you're right.

I get home, open it up, and notice there's fine print on the bottom of the package that says "4K Blu-ray contains extended version of the film, regular blu-ray contains theatrical version."

I was PISSED! So now I need to know if I can watch this 4K disc on my One S with a 1080p tv, I still haven't seen the damn movie yet lol. I'll just try it myself when I get home from work, I was just curious if anyone knew beforehand.

Having just watched this on my 4K player and finishing minutes ago, I switched my HDMI cord to my 1080p tv and loaded it back up : Settings are 1080p by default but "allow 4K" in advanced and the movie plays fine, the three hour extended.

I'm not sure why it wouldn't : My Xbox 360 worked fine on a 480p 4:3 tube tv in a pinch.

My faux-4K non-HDR 4K tv was alright, but like you I can't wait to watch it's true capabilities.

Edit : Why are the copies like that? Digital includes both it adds. Strange.
 

webkatt

Member
Can anyone confirm/deny if the bundles include digital or physical games?

From what I've seen on YouTube

Madden is a physical disc
Halo 5 is a physical disc
Halo: MCC is a download
 

killroy87

Member
Can anyone confirm/deny if the bundles include digital or physical games?

From what I've seen on YouTube

Madden is a physical disc
Halo 5 is a physical disc
Halo: MCC is a download

dunno about madden, but these are true.

Having just watched this on my 4K player and finishing minutes ago, I switched my HDMI cord to my 1080p tv and loaded it back up : Settings are 1080p by default but "allow 4K" in advanced and the movie plays fine, the three hour extended.

I'm not sure why it wouldn't : My Xbox 360 worked fine on a 480p 4:3 tube tv in a pinch.

My faux-4K non-HDR 4K tv was alright, but like you I can't wait to watch it's true capabilities.

Edit : Why are the copies like that? Digital includes both it adds. Strange.

Thanks for checking!

And I don't know. The regular blu-ray includes both, I can't imagine why this one doesn't. Super obnoxious.
 

stlobus

Member
making both Halo 5 and MCC digital would take a hilariously large chunk out of the 500GB's hard drive space.

Still does thanks to the need to install both fully, unfortunately. 150GB is used just by those two titles.

EDIT: Does anyone use the Xbox One S with a Yamaha RX-V679BL? I believe it it supports everything HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0a, so it should pass the 4k 10-bit settings just fine. However, I can't get those green checks going through the receiver, only directly to my TV. Does anyone have settings that are working for that by any chance? I have 4:4:4 enabled on the tv and have made sure the dynamic range is set to full for the HDMI port and color replication. I have a Bravia br65x810c for my tv, and I have everything but HDR with green checks when connected directly to it in the same port I use the receiver through (HDMI 4/ARC).
 

etta

my hard graphic balls
Tempted...I really want a 4k player but I never had a console in the Microsoft/Xbox ecosystem. I wonder if it's better to just hold off for the Sept. 7th Sony meeting.

I would say that's an even better reason to get one... catch up on all the 360 BC games and X1 exclusives you've missed and get UHD BD playback.

Do this, Dranakin. If you buy Gears of War 4, it comes with the entire collection of the Xbox 360 versions. You can also find Halo: The Master Chief Collection for under $10, and find a cheap copy of Halo: Reach at Gamestop.
Xbox's biggest franchises in their entirety playable on the Xbox One.
 

Kaydan

Banned
I'm ready GAF. By the way the 1tb Halo bundle is available in Canada.

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DirtyLarry

Member
Did you mention earlier that vizio is sending you a replacement?

I have a 2015 vizio m55c2. That would really chap my ass if 4k doesn't work on my 4k tv.

Edit: if it matters I would only be upgrading for the 4k blu player and 4k gaming upscaling.
Yep, I will know next Thursday, September 1st, as that is the earliest they could schedule the delivery. So fingers crossed...

Also, just to clarify, I am using it for those features you listed as well but also for the upscaled TV. Everything looks great when it works. I would even live with the blackout if it was only now and then. It was not just now and then though and especially in games it was unbearable.

I have this issue with my Vizio M50-C1 BUTTTT with my PC set at 1080p.

I can say that with certainty it started happening after there was a firmware update on the TV.
Now that is weird it is happening at 1080p. I have seen the issue the entire time with my Roku 4, but as I said it was not as bad as with the One and that is with 4K. But the fact it is happening at 1080p as well also points to the TV itself and certain signals.

I'm happy to report no problems. I've used the media player, Netflix, youtube, vudu, and watched the BvS fight on the UHD player. I noticed in settings that I could change from 8 bit to 10 bit but I left it 8 bit knowing I don't have HDR. I hope your replacement works better than your current!
That's damn good news actually and hope I get the same results. The morbid curiosity of what would happen if you enable the One Guide is very compelling to me, but since I know you do not use it and part of me really does believe it may have something to do with it all, I will just say that is great news and I do hope I see the same results.
 

Flip Escobar

Neo Member
Still does thanks to the need to install both fully, unfortunately. 150GB is used just by those two titles.

EDIT: Does anyone use the Xbox One S with a Yamaha RX-V679BL? I believe it it supports everything HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0a, so it should pass the 4k 10-bit settings just fine. However, I can't get those green checks going through the receiver, only directly to my TV. Does anyone have settings that are working for that by any chance? I have 4:4:4 enabled on the tv and have made sure the dynamic range is set to full for the HDMI port and color replication. I have a Bravia br65x810c for my tv, and I have everything but HDR with green checks when connected directly to it in the same port I use the receiver through (HDMI 4/ARC).

The default 4K video Mode for the RX-V679BL is 4:2:0. You must change to Video Mode 1 to pass 4K @ 60 FPS 4:4:4 video.

(Taken from the manual on pages 120 & 122)

Configuring the system settings (ADVANCED SETUP menu)
Configure the system settings of the unit while viewing the front display.
1 Set the unit to standby mode.
2 While holding down STRAIGHT on the front panel, press MAIN ZONE/Power Button.
3 Press PROGRAM to select an item.
4 Press STRAIGHT to select a setting.
5 Press MAIN ZONE/Power Butter nto set the unit to standby mode and turn it on again. The new settings take effect.

Selecting the HDMI 4K signal format (4K MODE)
4K MODE•MODE 2
Selects the format of signals input/output at the unit when HDMI 4K (60 Hz/50 Hz) compatible TV and playback device are connected to the unit.
Settings
MODE 1
Inputs/outputs 4K (60 Hz/50 Hz) signals in 4:4:4, 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 format. (4:2:0 format only for VIDEO AUX [HDMI IN] jack)
MODE 2
Inputs/outputs 4K (60 Hz/50 Hz) signals in 4:2:0 format.
Depending on the connected device or HDMI cables, video may not be displayed correctly. In this case, select “MODE 2”.
• When “MODE 1” is selected, use a high-speed HDMI cable that supports 18 Gbps.
 

stlobus

Member
The default 4K video Mode for the RX-V679BL is 4:2:0. You must change to Video Mode 1 to pass 4K @ 60 FPS 4:4:4 video.

(Taken from the manual on pages 120 & 122)

Configuring the system settings (ADVANCED SETUP menu)
Configure the system settings of the unit while viewing the front display.
1 Set the unit to standby mode.
2 While holding down STRAIGHT on the front panel, press MAIN ZONE/Power Button.
3 Press PROGRAM to select an item.
4 Press STRAIGHT to select a setting.
5 Press MAIN ZONE/Power Butter nto set the unit to standby mode and turn it on again. The new settings take effect.

Selecting the HDMI 4K signal format (4K MODE)
4K MODE•MODE 2
Selects the format of signals input/output at the unit when HDMI 4K (60 Hz/50 Hz) compatible TV and playback device are connected to the unit.
Settings
MODE 1
Inputs/outputs 4K (60 Hz/50 Hz) signals in 4:4:4, 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 format. (4:2:0 format only for VIDEO AUX [HDMI IN] jack)
MODE 2
Inputs/outputs 4K (60 Hz/50 Hz) signals in 4:2:0 format.
Depending on the connected device or HDMI cables, video may not be displayed correctly. In this case, select “MODE 2”.
• When “MODE 1” is selected, use a high-speed HDMI cable that supports 18 Gbps.

You, sir or ma'am, are my personal hero. This worked perfectly. Maybe I should dig that manual out of my basement and actually look through it.
 

DirtyLarry

Member
I'm happy to report no problems. I've used the media player, Netflix, youtube, vudu, and watched the BvS fight on the UHD player. I noticed in settings that I could change from 8 bit to 10 bit but I left it 8 bit knowing I don't have HDR. I hope your replacement works better than your current!
Also quick follow up, just out of curiosity, are you using a receiver with any other components attached to it?
Reason I ask is the issue does seem to get way worse if I go to another component (PS4, PS3, Apple TV or Chromecast), then come back to the One. So if the TV itself changes resolution for each component and I go back to 4K, it seems to make it way, way worse.
So just curious if you have a similar setup and you have gone to anything else yet?
 
Also quick follow up, just out of curiosity, are you using a receiver with any other components attached to it?
Reason I ask is the issue does seem to get way worse if I go to another component (PS4, PS3, Apple TV or Chromecast), then come back to the One. So if the TV itself changes resolution for each component and I go back to 4K, it seems to make it way, way worse.
So just curious if you have a similar setup and you have gone to anything else yet?

Right now I have my amazon fire hooked straight to the hdmi 4k@30 and the S to the 4k@60. I have ARC out to my Sony receiver. I've switched a few times bc I use ps vue on the fire. It's got be something with the oneguide.
 

Flip Escobar

Neo Member
You, sir or ma'am, are my personal hero. This worked perfectly. Maybe I should dig that manual out of my basement and actually look through it.

It's a sir.. No problem, glad I could help out. I had the same issue as you were and it took me a couple of days to figure that out after various google searches..
 
I made some quick videos of the Life of Pi issue I mentioned, still have no idea what's causing it.

Messing with the backlight in The Lego Movie just adjusts the backlight as usual, and other movies act the same way so far. In Life of Pi adjust the backlight makes the colors all weird, and I haven't been able to find settings that make it look normal.

I'm still really unclear how HDR works. I've noticed a lot of weird stuff. Mad Max: Fury Road looks completely different on disc compared to the downloadable version on Vudu, the Vudu version's colors are more vibrant to the point of looking oversaturated, and the HDR effects are more noticeable. at the beginning when Immortan Joe is giving his speech the "spotlight" on him looks noticeably brights, and when the camera is behind him there's noticeably more contrast between the view outside and the inside of the cavern. The disc version looks way better, the colors are a lot more natural, but the HDR effects are less drastic. TV is calibrated with the same settings for both.

I'm still not clear how I'm supposed to set up the TV either. I saw a post on AVS where a Vizio employee said that for Dolby Vision content you're just supposed to use the Calibrated Dark preset, no additional changes. but jacking the backlight all the way up makes it look better IMO. Not sure if the Calibrated Dark thing is for HDR10 as well or if that's supposed to be calibrated differently, but it still looks pretty damn incredible to me using that preset.

I've noticed that HDR content definitely looks better in a dark room, I think because my TV just doesn't get bright enough while playing HDR stuff. Looks fine in a dark room but if I try to play a movie during the afternoon on a weekend or whatever it can look like the movie is show is set in the evening since the picture seems dark. I have a 55" P-series.

I'm still having some pretty bad stuttering issues, not sure if it's the Xbox or my TV. I need to play some regular non-4K BluRays to see if it keeps up, I've never had a problem playing movies from Vudu off the tablet remote or streaming services though.

Anyway, not sure how interesting this is to anyone. If anyone has any ideas about the Life of Pi thing I'd love to hear.
 

MrBenchmark

Member
Microsoft is aware that the BluRay app has some issues with some 4K movies us in preview have been submitting feedback and they are working on it.

They were very specific to report it and not return or exchange system because of this as they say it's just software.


Try clearing the persistent storage in settings and BluRay and reboot that help with many issues also if needed uninstall reboot and reinstall the BluRay app
 

Gitaroo

Member
anyone know if there was a Xbox One Forza Horizon 2 bundle before? I got my 500 gig Xbone S but I would be happy to buy a forza horizon 3 bundle. I still haven't open my new box, I would be so piss if they announce a forza horison 3 bundle sometime next month.
 
Microsoft is aware that the BluRay app has some issues with some 4K movies us in preview have been submitting feedback and they are working on it.

They were very specific to report it and not return or exchange system because of this as they say it's just software.


Try clearing the persistent storage in settings and BluRay and reboot that help with many issues also if needed uninstall reboot and reinstall the BluRay app

Hmmm, I'll give that a try later, weird it would only affect the one movie though. I figured it was a screw-up on the part of the movie publisher or something.

Hopefully doing that or an update will fix the stuttering, I'm not sure what would be causing that. I haven't even watched a movie on disc for like a decade and a half before getting the S, haha.
 

MrBenchmark

Member
Hmmm, I'll give that a try later, weird it would only affect the one movie though. I figured it was a screw-up on the part of the movie publisher or something.

Hopefully doing that or an update will fix the stuttering, I'm not sure what would be causing that. I haven't even watched a movie on disc for like a decade and a half before getting the S, haha.
I've had more than one bad 4K disc too so don't rule that out. My now you see me 4K disc would freeze audio Glitch and not work right at all had to exchange.
 
I've had more than one bad 4K disc too so don't rule that out. My now you see me 4K disc would freeze audio Glitch and not work right at all had to exchange.

Oh, damn. The stuttering seems universal, but the color is issue is unique to Life of Pi. Maybe I'll go see if Best Buy will replace it with a new copy tomorrow.
 

Bubba77

Member
What mode do you use? HDR+?

Game mode for xb1. When i put a 4k movie in a switch to hdr+ real quick. Nice thing is you can have different settings for each of your 4 hdmi inputs. So you can mix and match depending on which source is selected. To tell you the truth game mode looked fine for movies too, but I havent really gotten into calibrating this thing yet.
 
I made some quick videos of the Life of Pi issue I mentioned, still have no idea what's causing it.

Messing with the backlight in The Lego Movie just adjusts the backlight as usual, and other movies act the same way so far. In Life of Pi adjust the backlight makes the colors all weird, and I haven't been able to find settings that make it look normal.

I'm still really unclear how HDR works. I've noticed a lot of weird stuff. Mad Max: Fury Road looks completely different on disc compared to the downloadable version on Vudu, the Vudu version's colors are more vibrant to the point of looking oversaturated, and the HDR effects are more noticeable. at the beginning when Immortan Joe is giving his speech the "spotlight" on him looks noticeably brights, and when the camera is behind him there's noticeably more contrast between the view outside and the inside of the cavern. The disc version looks way better, the colors are a lot more natural, but the HDR effects are less drastic. TV is calibrated with the same settings for both.

I'm still not clear how I'm supposed to set up the TV either. I saw a post on AVS where a Vizio employee said that for Dolby Vision content you're just supposed to use the Calibrated Dark preset, no additional changes. but jacking the backlight all the way up makes it look better IMO. Not sure if the Calibrated Dark thing is for HDR10 as well or if that's supposed to be calibrated differently, but it still looks pretty damn incredible to me using that preset.

I've noticed that HDR content definitely looks better in a dark room, I think because my TV just doesn't get bright enough while playing HDR stuff. Looks fine in a dark room but if I try to play a movie during the afternoon on a weekend or whatever it can look like the movie is show is set in the evening since the picture seems dark. I have a 55" P-series.

I'm still having some pretty bad stuttering issues, not sure if it's the Xbox or my TV. I need to play some regular non-4K BluRays to see if it keeps up, I've never had a problem playing movies from Vudu off the tablet remote or streaming services though.

Anyway, not sure how interesting this is to anyone. If anyone has any ideas about the Life of Pi thing I'd love to hear.

If you have a new P/M-series Vizio and you are watching VUDU UHD movies they use Dolby Vision while the 4K Blu-ray uses HDR10. I think I've read/heard that Dolby Vision does over saturate colors. That for one would drive me nuts.
 
If you have a new P/M-series Vizio and you are watching VUDU UHD movies they use Dolby Vision while the 4K Blu-ray uses HDR10. I think I've read/heard that Dolby Vision does over saturate colors. That for one would drive me nuts.

Ah, OK. I thought specific movies and shows were HDR10 or Dolby Vision, didn't realize the same content could have two versions.

For what it's worth I've definitely seen content like Marco Polo on Netflix that looks incredible in Dolby Vision. But yeah, for some reason the disc and download version of Mad Max definitely look very noticeably different.
 

Dranakin

Member
I would say that's an even better reason to get one... catch up on all the 360 BC games and X1 exclusives you've missed and get UHD BD playback.

Do this, Dranakin. If you buy Gears of War 4, it comes with the entire collection of the Xbox 360 versions. You can also find Halo: The Master Chief Collection for under $10, and find a cheap copy of Halo: Reach at Gamestop.
Xbox's biggest franchises in their entirety playable on the Xbox One.

Those are great points. I just worry about the console collecting dust (in terms of gaming) because my time has become significantly limited since I started my Ph.D. program. I still have Uncharted 4 and Witcher 3 unopened on my shelf, not to mention my backlog of 60+ 3DS, Wii U, and Vita games.

...I'll probably still get one.
 

jstevenson

Sailor Stevenson
Definitely the Xbox One S is causing an audio cut-out issue every 20-30 minutes or so. Not in the content, happens in all games and apps, only happens when set to 4k, not 1080p.

This happening with my LG OLED E6.

Hopefully something they flag and figure out. Love the box otherwise. So small and gorgeous.
 

mrback

Member
Is there any word on the gimped audio? I was really surprised that the console doesnt output bitstream so you can have dolby atmos & dtsX. even my ps3 does this. love the console but I think it could be going if this doesnt get sorted out soon. I bet neo does this off the bat.
 

Hammer24

Banned
Definitely the Xbox One S is causing an audio cut-out issue every 20-30 minutes or so. Not in the content, happens in all games and apps, only happens when set to 4k, not 1080p.

This happening with my LG OLED E6.

Hopefully something they flag and figure out. Love the box otherwise. So small and gorgeous.

PLEASE tell me, you guys are working on a HDR patch for Sunset Overdrive! Pretty please? ;-)
 

Krakatoa

Member
If anyone is having an issue with the screen flickering black every 10 seconds or so, replace the HDMI cable. I was using a HDMI cable that was running through the dry wall. The cable length was about 25 ft., When ever I switched to 4K on the Xbox it would flicker to a black screen every 10 seconds or so, I tried different ports, and It was the same result. As a last ditch effort I tried the HDMI cable they supplied. And to my surprise it worked.

I'm not sure if it was the length of the cable, or the quality that was causing the issue.Hope this helps someone.

Also, I can happily report that in Game Mode the LG 75UH8500 supports everything (except 50Hz playback).
 

Caayn

Member
Is there any word on the gimped audio? I was really surprised that the console doesnt output bitstream so you can have dolby atmos & dtsX. even my ps3 does this. love the console but I think it could be going if this doesnt get sorted out soon. I bet neo does this off the bat.
Microsoft is currently looking into it. When it happens is anyone's guess.

Albert Penello said:

I didn't say soon, I don't want people to infer soon. I don't know the exact date. This is how things get started :)

I know it's not a HW limitation. I know it's something the team is looking into and they are considering.

When it comes is another matter entirely, and has a lot to do with the vast catalog of features customers are asking for. So like I said, we have heard the request, we are evaluating it, and when it happens it will get announced as part of the preview program cadence like other software updates. Follow Ybarra on twitter he will jump on this I'm sure when it's ready.

Do I think it's going to happen? I do. When, I really don't know and I'm not trying to hint or infer anything about that at all.
 

Sounder2

Member
Game mode for xb1. When i put a 4k movie in a switch to hdr+ real quick. Nice thing is you can have different settings for each of your 4 hdmi inputs. So you can mix and match depending on which source is selected. To tell you the truth game mode looked fine for movies too, but I havent really gotten into calibrating this thing yet.

HDR+ is made for converting non-HDR pictures into "HDR". If you're watching a 4k HDR movie on your Xbox you are just making the picture look worse by doing that. For movies switch your viewing mode to Movie and that will make the most advantage of HDR.
 
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