Acquiescence
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I don't know, but man, Ken, Kaz and Andrew sure do look a lot different now than they did 12 years ago.
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PlayStation Meeting announced. September 7th 3PM ET (PS4 Neo Reveal)
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I don't know, but man, Ken, Kaz and Andrew sure do look a lot different now than they did 12 years ago.
I'll take the PS4 APU as a CPU & microcode programmable co-processor over Zen any day in a console.
Norwegian_Imposter
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Really excited for this. When is the live stream cet time?
And where will it be streamed?
And where will it be streamed?
Tell Twitter from your PlayStation account that Neo will have 6.2TF
wapplew
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That 6TF Scorpio announcement did change the perception of Neo spec, at the same time, I think 4.2TF have equal if not more effect on Scorpio.
In few days, Sony will show console gamer what games look like in 4.2TF compare to 1.8TF, we will most likely get the impact.
By E3 next year, we will get used to 4.2TF games, our standard raised, MS sure as hell need more than 1.8 extra TF to impress anyone.
Same thing happen to this thread will happen to coming Scorpio reveal thread, people will ask for upgrade, expect lower price, maybe even worse than this thread, way worse.
In few days, Sony will show console gamer what games look like in 4.2TF compare to 1.8TF, we will most likely get the impact.
By E3 next year, we will get used to 4.2TF games, our standard raised, MS sure as hell need more than 1.8 extra TF to impress anyone.
Same thing happen to this thread will happen to coming Scorpio reveal thread, people will ask for upgrade, expect lower price, maybe even worse than this thread, way worse.
holyshit, I am bipolar!
LelouchZero
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There's not many DX12 games right now, and some of the implementations of it aren't that great, so DX11 performance is mostly all we can judge that GPU by for now sadly.
THE:MILKMAN
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Where did this twin APU idea of yours suddenly come from onQ?
It sounds very much like Ken Kutaragi's original twin Cell CPU dream.
Devilgunman
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Yep, my PS4 is crashing every other days now. GG Sony.
What games do you expect to be shown at the PlayStation Meeting.
My List:
My List:
- Resident Evil 7
- Deep Down
- Red Dead 3
- Sucker Punch new game
- Death Stranding (Tech Demo)
- Grand Turismo Sports
- Uncharted 4 + DLC
- Watch Dogs 2
- Something From Square Enix
- From Software
- Indie Games
- New First Party Game
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Knack 2
This is a press conference to reveal a new console, not E3 2017.
It's not twin APU it's 1 APU the APU that's in the PS4 slim that will be used for base mode plus a new GPU.
And it come from looking at what is available.
This has got to be the worst marketing video I've ever seen.
Omnistalgic
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Its a conspiracy man! mines died on Friday!
But they need to show games, you know what happened to the other company who didn't.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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They'll be games but not that many games. Not at the show anyway.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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Holy shit will watch the rest when i get home lol
The second APU is just upsoldered.
There isn't a 2nd APU & I never said it was a 2nd APU
Cc23830
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This!!
My ps4 has been loud for a few months but today its absolutely exploded in noise. Cannot even trade in as i removed stickers to clean it our properly. Honestly it sounds horrendous
Or you'll end up with similar graphics on neo and Scorpio and Scorpio having better performance. Kind of like with ps4 and Xbo except reversed.
Celcius
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After thinking about it more, for some reason I expect the Neo to have more RAM as well. Either an extra 2gb or an extra 4gb (more likely). If they want to focus on higher resolutions then they'll also want to allow more room for higher resolution textures. I'm now going with 50% more ram + an additional APU or GPU + premium materials for the chassis = $549.99 and available 2nd week of October.
What? They don't need to. Neo itself is already enough. They can, but I'm not expecting anything with TGS this close and PSX not so far away.
What really!!! They just going to come on stage and show NEO with no games lol.
If the whole pitch for Neo is "better looking/running games", then they should probably show games that look and run better.
BigEmil
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With PS4 NEO hardware APU and all pretty similar to OG PS4 will it be easier for devs to develop for both?
Scorpio seems like it will be entirely different compared to OG XB1 so tougher for devs.
I think that's what Sony was going for this generation just a simple upgraded PS4 in the middle but then a very different hardware PS5 will appear couple of years later.
Scorpio seems like it will be entirely different compared to OG XB1 so tougher for devs.
I think that's what Sony was going for this generation just a simple upgraded PS4 in the middle but then a very different hardware PS5 will appear couple of years later.
Err they absolutely do need to show some games.
i'm glad youre not in charge of conferences.
im hyped for neo, but games still matter most.
I'm pretty sure the debate over how much horsepower was enough began with the original leak following GDC. Scorpio may have added fuel to the fire, but it didn't start it.
Jaguar and Zen share an instruction set. One binary would run in both.
Dev kits had double the planned RAM, which is pretty typical, so that's no firm indication of what Guerilla knew and when. Sony just decided to go with a fully-populated board for production units at some point leading up to the announcement.
Solid gold, thanks for making me smile this morning.
It's not a games event though, some people seem to expect a e3 conference.
THE:MILKMAN
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I see..So two separate chips? Or a single APU/MCM with PS4 chip+36CU Polaris GPU?
I just can't see anything other than the simple 36CU+Jaguar APU customised with a PS4 base mode at 4.2TF. Maybe we get a small clock bump around +200MHz on both CPU/GPU. 3 days!
Take a look back at the previous PlayStation Meeting, there was a number of game announcements there too.
LelouchZero
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Gabe Newell walks on the stage and announces Steam for the PlayStation 4, Hazardous Environments starts playing in the background and then the Steam logo quickly shifts to the number 3.
That was the PS4 reveil though. If you expect something similar to that I think you are going to be dissapointed.
Pocky4Th3Win
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I just want a steam streaming app on PSN.
I'm guessing MCM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215778102&postcount=7320
The APU & GPU wouldn't be stacked on top of each other but stacked on top of a interposer it could be a MCM like the picture below but replace Greenland GPU with the 36 CU Polaris chip & replace the Zeppelin CPU with the APU from the PS4 slim
BluenoseGames
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Exactly, I feel that people are blowing this out of proportion. Of course there's going to be games show there but they're probably ones that we've already seen, just upgraded.
Lana Del Rey
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I'm looking into upgrading my PS4s HDD, I really hope the neo uses the same kind of drive. chances of a change are slim, amiright?
Well, onQ, do you know why Sony and Microsoft both went APU this generation? Because it simplifies design (and lowers the costs) a ton and the semi-custom process of AMD still allowed somewhat powerful machines back then.
There is absolutely no reason to assume Sony is going to make the machine overly complex again. Neo will feature a newer APU, just one chip, one that wasn't possible in 2013 but is now. I bet my left nut on it.
There is absolutely no reason to assume Sony is going to make the machine overly complex again. Neo will feature a newer APU, just one chip, one that wasn't possible in 2013 but is now. I bet my left nut on it.
wait, do people really expect a full blown conference? like the ps4 introduction in feb 2013?
i honestly expect something closer to the psvr release date anouncement (here is the slim and the new price, this is the neo+introduction video with dev comments, maybe a comparison video).
i honestly expect something closer to the psvr release date anouncement (here is the slim and the new price, this is the neo+introduction video with dev comments, maybe a comparison video).
mordecaii83
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Considering they're calling this a "Playstation Meeting", the exact same title they used in 2013 for the PS4 announcement, it certainly points to a full blown conference.
easy big fella this isn't E3
wapplew
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The venue is smaller, Sony keeping the event low key, no theater experience, no social media promotion or anything, it's not going to be as shiny for sure.
Holy shit they actually named Sony team with their names lol
disco potato
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Other than the titan x, where have you seen Gddr5 in a 12Gb config? People keep bringing up 12Gb but didn't someone say that would require some custom finagling, unlike 8/16Gb?
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