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PlayStation Meeting announced. September 7th 3PM ET (PS4 Neo Reveal)

Right before the Neo's unveil, how do you feel about the system?


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I know nothing. Nada.
Just saying people are setting themselves up hoping from something different to the leaked 4.2tf GPU / 2.1ghz CPU specs.
Leaks like that are usually always on the money. Exception was PS4 ram which wasn't even communicated to internal Sony studios like Guerrilla prior to show ('last minute' upgrade).

Thanks for the clarification.

I'm not expecting anything crazy, but we're in the "secret sauce" portion of the hype cycle, so "5.5 teraflops" is going to float to the top while while anything non-crazy that Kenny is saying isn't going to get quoted at all.
 
I'm going conservative with my predictions, boost to 3.6 and 2.1 on the GPU and CPU respectively. I can be happily surprised if it's more than that.
 

Briarios

Member
I'm so irritated, I tried to get the afternoon off to watch the event, but I couldn't ... Hopefully, my phone will stream it well enough. More importantly, I hope I can pre-order the Neo if they announce preorders. I have the worst time doing that stuff on my phone.
 

dEvAnGeL

Member
I'm so irritated, I tried to get the afternoon off to watch the event, but I couldn't ... Hopefully, my phone will stream it well enough. More importantly, I hope I can pre-order the Neo if they announce preorders. I have the worst time doing that stuff on my phone.
ill be home home by 2:30 lol, leaving work early just in case preorders open the same day so i can get one in case stock is low
 
Alright so is there still any chance of a new Red Dead being shown?

I dunno, I just feel something like that would be at something like PSX, or Rockstar's own reveal vids. Sony hasn't talked much about this event if we're honest, hardly a blog post in sight.
 

Drewfonse

Member
I'm definitely buying a Neo and giving the old PS4 to my brother. I'm a little bit worried because my Samsung 4k TV has a ridiculous amount of input lag on it even in the ugly game mode but I never play competitive games on consoles so it should be OK I guess.


I'm so confused by this. I also have a Samsung 4k with moderate input lag.

I have heard reports of increased input lag with HDR mode on the new Xbox. Is this something to expect going forward?
 

THE:MILKMAN

Member
I know nothing. Nada.
Just saying people are setting themselves up hoping from something different to the leaked 4.2tf GPU / 2.1ghz CPU specs.
Leaks like that are usually always on the money. Exception was PS4 ram which wasn't even communicated to internal Sony studios like Guerrilla prior to show ('last minute' upgrade).

I showed before that the Killzone demo at the show was using way above 4GB already. Read the PDF on Guerrilla's website for the full breakdown. At least they must have known about the 8GB.

I agree the 8GB was relatively late as these things go but it was down to whether Samsung could deliver millions of the 4Gbit chips IMO. If they couldn't then Sony would have been stuck at 4GB because I highly doubt they could go with 32 2Gbit chips on the motherboard.

The fact Sony didn't promise or share much to indicate there could be 8GB to all devs was a smart move and lead to the massive PR win we still see today.

Edit:

Danlord said:
Was the 6TFLOPS supposed spec of Scorpio known at the time of Osiris' post about 5.5 TFLOPS? Just curious.

Just over 24hrs after.
 

kyser73

Member
I'm fully expecting 4.2 & I'll be happy with that upgrade tech-wise. My main 'concern' is how devs push the console - I'm not fussed over 4K (I figure that'll be PS5 territory to do properly), but am intrigued by the possibilities offered by the increase in power at 1080p, especially the possibility of over sampling alongside the chances of getting 1440p titles to 90fps for PSVR.

I realise the latter is going to be unrealistic, and 1080/90 OR 1440/60 are more likely solutions however.
 

Deku Tree

Member
So I can reserve my PS4 trade in at Amazon today for $154. Then decide whether to send it back to them on Wednesday. Is there any better deal that that?
 

Simo

Member
Alright so is there still any chance of a new Red Dead being shown?

Maybe. Maybe not. The rumor has gained momentum though and we've discussion it, or mostly me posting it and likely setting myself up for more crushing disappointment lol, mainly due to..
  • E3 rumor about Sony's press conference
  • The Kinda Funny guys speculated and made a prediction of it showing up because of maybe said E3 rumor and also that the event is in New York, Rockstar's backyard.
  • Jason Schreier in a recent Kotaku Split Screen podcast made a similar prediction citing the location of the event, the timing and E3 rumor.
  • Take Two has another investors call in November where for twice already this year they've said "Rockstar is working on exciting new projects that will be revealed soon". I mean you would think something would be revealed between now and November so Zelnick doesn't have to say that shit again and the rest of the known releases and line up is empty after October..

So the E3 rumor. This thing was never confirmed nor denied even by Jason and given his stories published thats kind of surprising and Colin on Kinda Funny even said that he pretty much wrote off the rumour as just reddit nonsense, until he heard the same story from people he absolutely trusts. I mean the whole Sony conference ended weird like a wet fart like something was replaced last minute and prior to the event there were multiple insiders here on GAF, vetted by the mods, who threw down and stated that Red Dead 3 was going to be at Sony's conference.

So I mean I could see it being at PSM no question but there's a lot of possibilities it won't be so who knows. lol Me personally, I like and could see the idea based on whats happened in the past with Rockstar that with Game Informer revealing, at least should be, their new issue this week on likely Tuesday that it could be a Rockstar cover story for Red Dead. That would have our first look at the artwork, screenshots and details and then the next day at PSM the first look at footage running on Neo.

Or none of it happens and we end up waiting for Rockstar to announce something out of the blue or put your hopes on another event like PSX or the VGAs. lol
 
It is a hypothetical 10 terraflop console for $500... I think the only card close to that is a 1080. Even though I have a 980Ti now that would be an easy decision at that performance/price ratio.

A 10 teraflop GCN 4 GPU would probably be closer to a GTX 1070, the Fury X is a 8.6 teraflop GCN GPU and the 1070 is around 15-20% faster than it.

The 1070 is also around 10% faster than a 980 Ti.

Off Topic: I found this video about E3 2004 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaeFFkzKqs.

What on earth... How did you find this? Lol!
 

Raylan

Banned
On topic: everything about this video is incredible, but mostly I'm wondering how on earth they convinced Sony execs to be in it if they were just going to be made fun of for 5 minutes?!

It also goes to show you how ahead of the times MS was back then and in the early 360 days.
Please be sarcasm
 

Darklor01

Might need to stop sniffing glue
Hey now, I haven't post for 5-8 pages.
Definitely not bipolar, more like Schrödinger's cat, Neo remains both live up to the hype or epic fail until the state is observed at 7th. I'm just happen to be exist in both timeline.

Lol! Schrödinger's Game console. I like it.
 
Came back to this thread after almost 2-3 days. Was there anything announced over here? Any videos of the official teaser for the PS Meeting on Sept 7th?
 

Tonky

Member
Maybe. Maybe not. The rumor has gained momentum though and we've discussion it, or mostly me posting it and likely setting myself up for more crushing disappointment lol, mainly due to..
  • E3 rumor about Sony's press conference
  • The Kinda Funny guys speculated and made a prediction of it showing up because of maybe said E3 rumor and also that the event is in New York, Rockstar's backyard.
  • Jason Schreier in a recent Kotaku Split Screen podcast made a similar prediction citing the location of the event, the timing and E3 rumor.
  • Take Two has another investors call in November where for twice already this year they've said "Rockstar is working on exciting new projects that will be revealed soon". I mean you would think something would be revealed between now and November so Zelnick doesn't have to say that shit again and the rest of the known releases and line up is empty after October..

So the E3 rumor. This thing was never confirmed nor denied even by Jason and given his stories published thats kind of surprising and Colin on Kinda Funny even said that he pretty much wrote off the rumour as just reddit nonsense, until he heard the same story from people he absolutely trusts. I mean the whole Sony conference ended weird like a wet fart like something was replaced last minute and prior to the event there were multiple insiders here on GAF, vetted by the mods, who threw down and stated that Red Dead 3 was going to be at Sony's conference.

So I mean I could see it being at PSM no question but there's a lot of possibilities it won't be so who knows. lol Me personally, I like and could see the idea based on whats happened in the past with Rockstar that with Game Informer revealing, at least should be, their new issue this week on likely Tuesday that it could be a Rockstar cover story for Red Dead. That would have our first look at the artwork, screenshots and details and then the next day at PSM the first look at footage running on Neo.

Or none of it happens and we end up waiting for Rockstar to announce something out of the blue or put your hopes on another event like PSX or the VGAs. lol

The rumor that carries the most weight is the E3 one, because the ending to that conference made no sense whatsoever. I trust Colin so I'm going to remain hopeful, but it just doesn't make "sense" for Rockstar to show a new game at a new console's reveal, they hate the spotlight being taken away from them.
 
I'm so confused by this. I also have a Samsung 4k with moderate input lag.

I have heard reports of increased input lag with HDR mode on the new Xbox. Is this something to expect going forward?
But, but... 4K gaming is so much "better"!

A 10 teraflop GCN 4 GPU would probably be closer to a GTX 1070, the Fury X is a 8.6 teraflop GCN GPU and the 1070 is around 15-20% faster than it.

The 1070 is also around 10% faster than a 980 Ti.
You're talking about DX11. DX12 + Async Compute utilizes 100% of the GCN ALUs.
 

BlizzKrut

Banned
The rumor that carries the most weight is the E3 one, because the ending to that conference made no sense whatsoever. I trust Colin so I'm going to remain hopeful, but it just doesn't make "sense" for Rockstar to show a new game at a new console's reveal, they hate the spotlight being taken away from them.

I agree, the end to Sony's event felt a lot like something was missing, I don't think they intended to finish with Days Gone.
 

Simo

Member
The rumor that carries the most weight is the E3 one, because the ending to that conference made no sense whatsoever. I trust Colin so I'm going to remain hopeful, but it just doesn't make "sense" for Rockstar to show a new game at a new console's reveal, they hate the spotlight being taken away from them.

I don't know if that's necessarily true given their past reveals like GTAV on PS4 at E32014 or GTAIV announced and revealed on Microsoft's stage at E3 2007 or 08 I believe? Red Dead Redemption was even revealed and first shown off as a PS3 tech demo at Sony's E3 2005 conference and behind closed doors. lol

If PSM this week kind of followed their 2013 event and they talk about brand support from first and third party developers while showcasing new titles then I don't see why Rockstar wouldn't be there.
 

Tonky

Member
I agree, the end to Sony's event felt a lot like something was missing, I don't think they intended to finish with Days Gone.
Also the fact that some of the insiders that somehow leaked 95% of Microsoft's E3 conference and about 60% of Sony's said it would be there but then retracted on their original statements adds some legitimacy to this claim.
 

Tonky

Member
I don't know if that's necessarily true given their past reveals like GTAV on PS4 at E32014 or GTAIV announced and revealed on Microsoft's stage at E3 2007 or 08 I believe? Red Dead Redemption was even revealed and first shown off as a PS3 tech demo at Sony's E3 2005 conference and behind closed doors. lol

If PSM this week kind of followed their 2013 event and they talk about brand support from first and third party developers while showcasing new titles then I don't see why Rockstar wouldn't be there.
Yeah in truth it was actually just that original GTAV reveal that was independent from any formal event.
 

Raylan

Banned
This guy needs to be unjuniored stat. Holy cow why did Sony appear in that ?!
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