Stallion Dan
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The suit needs to pick some kind of skin tone, right?
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Disney releases Maui costume that lets kids pretend to be Polynesian
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Audioboxer
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Well some on GAF seem to be pushing for young kids to be going around in public practically naked instead. I've been asked if I have kids in this topic, but I think anyone saying that should be asked if they have kids instead of me.
BronsonLee
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Anyone recommending that clear shit needs to think about it for more than 5 seconds
So racist why is this John Cena white and not see through
Fuck the WWE.
"DISNEY MAKES COSTUMES FOR ALL CHARACTERS EXCEPT THE POLYNESIAN ONE!!"
SmackDaddy
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I can't wait until this bullshit stops getting press
It would be nice and honest if everyone complaining about this would admit there's nothing Disney could have done that would satisfy them. If you admit that, then acknowledge you're an extremist. You're someone people like Trump use as fuel.
The closest thing to a solution would be the following post.
The closest thing to a solution would be the following post.
BocoDragon said:
Killer Queen
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You want kids running around in their underwear in a clear suit on Halloween?
Fudgepuppy
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Would any kid wear this as a way to mock Polynesians?
No?
Would they wear it as a celebration of something they like?
Yes?
Then what's the problem?
Did y'all get offended with Guacamelee too?
No?
Would they wear it as a celebration of something they like?
Yes?
Then what's the problem?
Did y'all get offended with Guacamelee too?
mikefrails
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Most rap is supported by white people, true facts. Everyone thinks minority races are cool when the product for entertainment.
Zoe
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On little children.
On little children running around wearing just a grass skirt with all of their skin exposed.
On little boys and girls running around wearing just a grass skirt with all of their skin exposed.
Have some of you even bothered to think this through?
I suppose it is a lose-lose situation. You can't please everyone. I'm not really taking a firm stand one way or the other.
GloriousBagel
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Is anyone outraged at those cheesy Mexican costumes yet? Wake me up when you guys do.
PdotMichael
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It's absurd how that is supposed to be the most PC solution
Audioboxer
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Exactly. Let's not forget why we tend to give our kids an extra layer of protection. No pun intended. They are not fully developed and are not at an age where any, or at least 99% of parents would want them unnecessarily sexualised or scantily dressed in public. They don't just exist in a world of other kids when they go out your front door, it's an adult world.
Now sure being at a beach or going public swimming is a different matter, but largely those are controlled areas where due to the activities on display you aren't going to wear typical clothing. You can however get full covering swimsuits.
Still, it's a fucking obvious nono to just be saying in this topic all the kids should be running around in public with what would just be "underwear" or shorts. Adults can get away with that as they are adults (besides lewd public nudity which is largely frowned upon and restricted), not bloody kids.
This is coming from a liberal guy who would do his best to support their kid(s) dressing up as nearly any "superhero". Chances are even those that don't wear much clothing can have outfits made from clothing that resemble skin or muscle... SHOCK, like this one.
Pretty sure as a kid I used to pretend I was He-Man a lot, swinging a plastic sword and all that jazz. Never dressed up for Halloween as such, but if I did I'm sure there would have been a kids He-Man body suit that would stop me from being sent out topless.
thecouncil
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Remove the costume from the shelf. Remove the character from the movie. It's not that hard.
ArkkAngel007
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Disney puts out as representative Maui costume that their Halloween merchandising people come up with:
You can't have whites, blacks and Asians, etc putting on a Samoan bodysuit! Children shouldn't be appropriating another skin color!
Clear suit or just tattoo set
What's wrong with the skin color? Would you be ashamed having a child masquerading and idolizing a fictional character/culture diety of another skin color? Yet you're perfectly fine with appropriating everything else about the culture? And whybrid is Disney wanting my child to be exposed? My little girl likes Maui more than Moana, but can't because Disney are narrow minded sexists.
No Maui costume
Why doesn't Disney represent that culture? Is it the skin color? Are they closet Imperialists? White washing Doctor Strange and now this! Outrage!
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It's like...people are getting outraged at what they perceive to be a race/culture issue, and then throw solutions out that areperhaps just as if not more so racially and culturally insensitive.
You can't have whites, blacks and Asians, etc putting on a Samoan bodysuit! Children shouldn't be appropriating another skin color!
Clear suit or just tattoo set
What's wrong with the skin color? Would you be ashamed having a child masquerading and idolizing a fictional character/culture diety of another skin color? Yet you're perfectly fine with appropriating everything else about the culture? And whybrid is Disney wanting my child to be exposed? My little girl likes Maui more than Moana, but can't because Disney are narrow minded sexists.
No Maui costume
Why doesn't Disney represent that culture? Is it the skin color? Are they closet Imperialists? White washing Doctor Strange and now this! Outrage!
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It's like...people are getting outraged at what they perceive to be a race/culture issue, and then throw solutions out that are
OniBarubary
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This might be one of the few times that I actually think this is the best route to take and the costume itself as well as white kids wearing it is neither appropriation nor a "brownface" style of mocking.
I think the complaints in THIS specific instance are way off base.
I think the complaints in THIS specific instance are way off base.
BronsonLee
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heliosRAzi
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This is the thread people will point to when they talk about outrage culture.
AcademicSaucer
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Looks fine to me. But the disembodied bodysuit is pretty creepy, agreed.
Not gonna lie, that looks kind of cool
Bumblebeetuna
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Man it sucks how people will bitch about absolutely anything just to have something to bitch about.
LOL @ using "clear material". Or even wash off tattoos.
This costume looks pretty cool.
LOL @ using "clear material". Or even wash off tattoos.
This costume looks pretty cool.
Winterblink
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I'm reminded of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedy_Gonzales#Concern_about_stereotypes
Mango Positive
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I think folk should only be concerned with cultural appropriation when there's a tone of mocking or negativity associated with it. I don't see that here.
heliosRAzi
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serenewarfare
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Honestly, this is 100% a no-win situation for Disney. Let's look at their options with this.
1. They release the costume as is with the character-appropriate skin tone: People get outraged about "blackface" and the skin tone
2. They release it without a tone or with a different tone: People get outraged about "whitewashing" or misrepresenting the character
3. They don't release a costume at all: People say that Disney finally does a movie about a new culture, but then complain that the company doesn't properly represent them with a costume the way they do with other movies featuring white leads.
The only real recourse would be to redesign the character and it's both too late for that and also designing a character solely based on "what would make for the most inoffensive costume" is a dumb idea.
1. They release the costume as is with the character-appropriate skin tone: People get outraged about "blackface" and the skin tone
2. They release it without a tone or with a different tone: People get outraged about "whitewashing" or misrepresenting the character
3. They don't release a costume at all: People say that Disney finally does a movie about a new culture, but then complain that the company doesn't properly represent them with a costume the way they do with other movies featuring white leads.
The only real recourse would be to redesign the character and it's both too late for that and also designing a character solely based on "what would make for the most inoffensive costume" is a dumb idea.
I noticed some, definetly.
Exactly my thoughts. Of the choices, Disney made the right one. Kids get to dress like the character they love, there's no ill intent behind it.
Putting aside how the costume is, that doscussion has been killed as soon as those who want to be outraged at the outrage entered, but these kind of issues never needed ill intent.
To the extreme right Halloween is satan's holiday, to the extreme left it's a racist holiday. Gotta love it lol
Audioboxer
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They could but they just stuck to the skin tone the character has. If they started doing different skin tones then people would be frothing to bash them saying they are disrespecting the character and/or whitewashing. It is what it is, a costume modelled on a character to be wore by children 99% of whom won't give a shit what colour the skin on the body suit somewhat resembles.
For every other kid there's a million other costumes they can wear if this one isn't to their liking. Very few kids costumes require body suits where skin is showing, this is just one of a small minority due to the character. Therefore reasonable explanations come out top in a thread which seemingly just started with very little discussion and a wall of "one liners". Children being 'nude' for the 1% of children's costumes that require skin/muscles to be showing is not an acceptable social answer. If you think it is you're a bigger concern than this costume could ever be.
badblue
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could you imagine the outrage with they went with a caucasian skin tone? Same thread would be made.
you making that comparison is offensive to Romanians
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