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Pokémon Mafia |OT| Gotta Catch Em Scum!
- Thread starter Burbeting
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melonrabbit
Member
You really feel that bad about your chances?
melonrabbit
Member
Verelios, I would be interested in hearing an update from you. It kinda seems like you're holding back a lot for fear of being wrong or possibly misinterpreted.
Unmasked Ferret
Member
Royal Flush or Splinter who brings the better points to that discussion? How do you feel about Royal Flush in general now since you had a null read during the last day phase, but Flush had you as a scum candidate?
Why would my list save you any trouble? Just reply to stuff, I'm not nearly done.
A Blarg vote?! I can hold it in my hand holders since Nin didn't want them.
Royal Flush since I brought it up, how do you currently feel about Melon, and Topo? You had both as scum so I want your input on their little back and forth at the end of the last day. (I may have already seen it if you've commented on it before, but post it again or link to it please).
I'm also going to apologize if I seem irritable, schools starts Wednesday, but there's some issues with one of my classes that might cause me some headaches soon.
TheGoddamn
Member
Of course I think the pileon on Bronx-Man was scummy. But it was a D1 vote and I've been slammed before for putting too much stock into it.
There are likely scum in the five who did vote for him (inactive votes are really only useful after the flip), but Sophia's surviving the night was the primary reason. Thinking it over (along with Sophia's response to me), it is weak reasoning, especially with RF's doctor argument. A double voter at this stage is worse for town than scum, so
Unvote
What are the facts we have so far?
1.) Sophia has a double vote that has a high enough number of shots that she can use it flippantly enough to undo it, at least for the purposes of proving that she has a PR
2.) Bronx-Man had a soft override, but didn't use it for some reason
3.) Trainers can create sub-factions
Thoughts about 3), the capturing system:
I actually missed melon and Stan discussing it (because I didn't know the terminology) but yeah, the capture system could be at its most basic a mason system. If it was a vanilla mason system, that would imply that all Pokemon are town aligned, which seems too simple. But, conversely, can you imagine if a town- (scum-) trainer caught a scum- (town-) Pokemon (and didn't know it) and had a chat to themselves? It would be another game inside the game that added to the tension.
Here are some possibilities:
A.) All Pokemon and all Trainers are town, and the chat is for them to consolidate a pro-town position.
B.) Pokemon can be aligned with town or scum, and Trainers are town. When Trainers catch Pokemon, they align them with town. This ends when the trainer is killed.
C.) Similar to B, but Trainers can be both town or scum. A scum Trainer catches a town Pokemon, and makes them scum. But then wouldn't the caught town just out the scum Trainer? Unless the Pokemon were disallowed to talk about it, but that seems messy.
D.) Trainers and Pokemon of either side. Trainers catch Pokemon, neither party knows the alignment of the other, and the mason chat is just tenuous uneasiness as they race to figure it out!
Assuming that it is a mason or mason-like system (which is my stance), there are other options as well, especially if you throw in neutral Trainers/Pokemon into the mix. Plus the added effects of capturing, like what happens to the powers of PR Pokemon if they are caught. Are they disabled? Do they transfer to the Trainer?
Then there'll be trouble!
It isn't any problem to post my impressions, there's just a lot(!) of reasoning in the last page, some I don't agree with, and I'd rather not make multiple long posts just in case the discussion drags.
melonrabbit
Member
No. You're fine. School is stressing me out also. I'll give a brief rundown as I've got to go to bed soon. More tomorrow.
Splinter is, worrying, making a lot of sense and I now read him as town. Royal's involvement in the conversation seemed forced and I don't see why he's defending Sophia as much as he is or making references to that fact in a dismissive manner. I've only played one game with him (Danny Phantom) that I can recall - very tired - and something just feels off. I think he's scum.
However, if he's scum than likely Sophia is not as I just didn't see scum defending scum where it would draw so much attention to both.
Blargonaut
Banned
melonrabbit
Member
Just you? Not the town?
Blargonaut
Banned
It's the royal "I"
Blargonaut
Banned
UNVOTE: Blargonaut
melonrabbit
Member
Well, nothing is really happening right now other than Blarg being Blarg.
I'd just as soon post before it gets super busy again (when people wake up/get home.)
Blargonaut
Banned
Dusk Soldier, I was promised a Pumpkaboo read
Where is it?
Where is it?
melonrabbit
Member
Blarg, sometimes I get the feeling you would lie to me.
Blargonaut
Banned
To you? never
melonrabbit
Member
Blargonaut
Banned
Blargonaut
Banned
No one
melonrabbit
Member
I'll hold you to that, blarg.
Seeya you guys in the morning or so with some fresh reads.
Seeya you guys in the morning or so with some fresh reads.
Blargonaut
Banned
cya
It's gotta be a double dog dare, Salva
It's gotta be a double dog dare
Okay, had a chance to catch up.
Just going to respond really quick to this since you brought it up again in your last post. I've explained everything I can about my Bronx-Man vote, so I won't go into that again, but I'm not really seeing how I'm playing defensively? I'm not the only one who is having trouble making any solid reads this game. Am I trying to please everyone? Until I have a better idea of who might be scum, then yeah. Without me providing any solid/well thought out leads, being lynched would just be giving scum one less townie to worry about.
Response for TheGoddamn
I think by time Bronx-Man became the solid Vote Leader (needed for his power to activate) it was already too late for anything to come of it. Whether he just didn't have the opportunity to send the command, or didn't think it was worth it, who knows.
I'm leaning more towards C or D on this one, but my gut is telling me that all pokemon start as town (unless Team Rocket started with a pokemon or two) and are told what their new alignment is when/if caught.
Just going to respond really quick to this since you brought it up again in your last post. I've explained everything I can about my Bronx-Man vote, so I won't go into that again, but I'm not really seeing how I'm playing defensively? I'm not the only one who is having trouble making any solid reads this game. Am I trying to please everyone? Until I have a better idea of who might be scum, then yeah. Without me providing any solid/well thought out leads, being lynched would just be giving scum one less townie to worry about.
Response for TheGoddamn
I think by time Bronx-Man became the solid Vote Leader (needed for his power to activate) it was already too late for anything to come of it. Whether he just didn't have the opportunity to send the command, or didn't think it was worth it, who knows.
I'm leaning more towards C or D on this one, but my gut is telling me that all pokemon start as town (unless Team Rocket started with a pokemon or two) and are told what their new alignment is when/if caught.
Blargonaut
Banned
We should talk about the Triangle again
Those were good times
Those were good times
Christina Mackenzie
Member
Sounds like a great way to blow off some steam.
Subtle® PR hint?
Subtle is a trademark, registered on NeoGAF by user Sawneeks. Used with permission.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
Equilateral, isosceles or scalene?
Blargonaut
Banned
anyway, I was bored so I wrote a villanelle
It's dedicated to the member of the Elite 4 we lost last Night
RIP in Pokemon
Blargonaut
Banned
scum chat or Mason chat?
Blargonaut
Banned
TheGoddamn, how do you feel about Ty4on
This just stuck out to me. So, with the first night kill, are we dealing with:
A pokemon who has now become Lady Gaga, with their own faction?
A pokemon who has simply gained the Trainer Status? (so now we may have a fully town-aligned trainer)
Or no trainer at all, as Barrylocke could have been unlucky enough to try capturing another trainer.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
anyway, I was bored so I wrote a villanelle
It's dedicated to the member of the Elite 4 we lost last Night
RIP in Pokemon
Lady Gaga might still be out there. Her soul and spirit transferred to some unknowing little Pokemon, unprepared for the greatness that awaits them.
Blargonaut
Banned
Indeed, there must always be a Lady Gaga
Blargonaut
Banned
Perfect Illusion is still Trubbish, though
Blargonaut
Banned
They're all equally possible, we'll never know unless said possibility confesses to having ate the corpse to assimilate her quintessence.
Blargonaut
Banned
Pokemon gotta eat too
Christina Mackenzie
Member
It's a little in-joke between the two of us. In my first mafia game, she and I both made it to the final day along with Makai, she was town and I was mafia. She lynched me correctly but in the end lost as town because of Makai's PR. Danganronpa mafia was the first sole neutral victory. Both of us felt pretty crappy after that.
I feel like I'm being singled out for the fluff posts, fine I can make only serious posts if you want.
My explanation for the no vote was included when I made it. Typing UNVOTE is shorter than VOTE: No Lynch, I don't see the big difference between either but no doubt someone will point it out. As far as I'm concerned, there were 4 people on Day 1 who decided to sit on the fence.
And for the record I'm inclined to lynch someone outside the Bronx-man vote for today. Maybe Sophia but only just to get confirmation that on Day 1 it was 2 town members who were on the chopping block.
Blargonaut
Banned
ugh a Makai namedrop
One Day, I'll have my vengeance, this life or etc.
One Day, I'll have my vengeance, this life or etc.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
So Ferret, how do feel about a Fireblend lynch? I can't blame him since Dusk_Soldier wants to push for his lynch and he needs a bunch of people who look more scummy than he does.
He's not fond of my postings, thinks I'm in general not worth having around. I'll admit I'd vote for him today though he's not my preferred lynch.
Blargonaut
Banned
You can automate my jobs,
You can automate my transportation,
but automate my fuckin' minigames bruv?
smh
You can automate my transportation,
but automate my fuckin' minigames bruv?
smh
Christina Mackenzie
Member
If a Sophia lynch wasn't on the cards for today, who would you vote for?
Christina Mackenzie
Member
Was that directed at me? I have no idea.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
I'll be honest, I was almost going to vote for melonrabbit at the end of Day 1 but it was more of a OMGUS vote since I felt she had it in for me.
But right now I'm kind of null reading her.
Blargonaut
Banned
Christina Mackenzie
Member
StanleyPalmTree, I know you're awake.
Anything you want to say?
Anything you want to say?
Unmasked Ferret
Member
I have no idea what you are trying to say in the bold.
As for a Fireblend lynch, I don't read FB as scum now, but I don't town read him either. If others decide he is a worthwhile lynch candidate then that's fine, I probably wouldn't vote for him (unless someone makes a really good case for why), but I won't defend him either. It would just sort of end up being day one again. But you know, Always Be Lynchin' Fireblend.
Honestly there's no real reason to vote out Fireblend over you, or Dusk, or from everyone else' perspective me
Is your whole reason for Fireblend a omgus because of the second part of your post? And who is your preferred vote at the moment, is it Sophia because of what you said before, or did you have someone else in mind?
Blargonaut
Banned
anyway
Must I always do the real work around here?
Barrylocke's Role PM:
"the Elite 4", probably, probably all popstars
I'm guessing a party of 4 Neutrals, who can have Pokemon of any alignment on their belts
who knows wtf their Win condition could be
speculate more
Remember when I said Trainers train?
yeah, c'mon ¬_¬
These REVOKEDs are obviously a selection of 2 Powers, possibly x-shot, that the Trainer has the choice to bestow one of them to their Pokemon(s) upon capture
But, via TM, or HM? And/or only once, upon capture? Renewable x-shots? Well, by whatever method, I think I'm right
and this final REVOKED is clearly Lady Gaga's and/or the Elite 4's Win condition; again, likely Neutral in nature so who knows wtf
could be collecting Pokemon
could be a type of Lyncher but like for collecting particular Pokemon, maybe of a certain Type only
could be
whatever
Must I always do the real work around here?
Barrylocke's Role PM:
"the Elite 4", probably, probably all popstars
I'm guessing a party of 4 Neutrals, who can have Pokemon of any alignment on their belts
who knows wtf their Win condition could be
speculate more
Remember when I said Trainers train?
yeah, c'mon ¬_¬
These REVOKEDs are obviously a selection of 2 Powers, possibly x-shot, that the Trainer has the choice to bestow one of them to their Pokemon(s) upon capture
But, via TM, or HM? And/or only once, upon capture? Renewable x-shots? Well, by whatever method, I think I'm right
and this final REVOKED is clearly Lady Gaga's and/or the Elite 4's Win condition; again, likely Neutral in nature so who knows wtf
could be collecting Pokemon
could be a type of Lyncher but like for collecting particular Pokemon, maybe of a certain Type only
could be
whatever
Blargonaut
Banned
Do I say anyway a lot?
pls
anyway
pls
anyway
Christina Mackenzie
Member
Dusk Soldier asks if Fireblend should go today.
roytheone says he wouldn't be against it. So Fireblend needs someone else more scummy looking that he does, which is the no voters to stave off his lynch. That was what I was trying to say in the bolded.
Yeah, I guess it's something of a OMGUS vote. I haven't gone over his posts in any detail. It's just that I find his reasons for suspecting me extremely petty.
I'd say Sophia is my preferred vote but only just.
Let's say you could only vote among the no lynch/no voters, SalvaPot, Royal_Flush and myself. Who is more scummy to you? I'm interested too know as someone who also does poor reads.
Blargonaut
Banned
No prospects 'til you make that LinkCabledIn profile bro
Blargonaut
Banned
Gotta double-down like me