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Oculus' Palmer Luckey is funding an anti-Hilary shitposting org

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98% of my respect for Luckey is out the window immediately. This is awful. The remaining 2% is for ushering in VR.

What's drawn you to Trump "for years," Palmer? Was it his tweets suggesting Obama wasn't born in the U.S.? His tweets suggesting global warming is a Chinese conspiracy? Maybe you just really loved The Apprentice.
 
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If he was 'supporting' Trump like 'I'm going to vote for him' that would be one thing. Slightly disappointing, but not something that would make me uncomfortable about having an Oculus Rift sat on the desk right next to me.

But supporting him by pouring money into anti Clinton memes being put on billboards?

Eurgh. Just... eurgh.
 
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Rayis said:
I always get the impression that these sorts of people are supporting Trump just to piss off others and be contrarian, or perhaps they're legitimately pieces of crap and would enjoy a world where everyone was an honest to god piece of shit to each other.
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A generation of kids grew up in the shitpit of 4chan and similar forums, where everybody tries to be as shocking and nasty to each other as possible, and ended up adopting extreme political philosophies that seem pretty normal to them. Meanwhile, they look at people from outside that sphere, people who look out for their fellow man and care about not being human garbage, and see fakers, shills, trolls, and bullies. Massive projection.
 
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I already didn't like Luckey, but this really seals that. Fuck him.

Krejlooc said:
Palmer Luckey didn't invent VR. nor does he claim to invent VR. The current VR revolution is a convergence of a lot of long-standing technologies that only became viable at a consumer level all at the same time. VR is not an invention created by one man, but rather a convergence of multiple inventions.

Palmer Luckey was one of the first modern inventors to put all the pieces together, but it's built on the fundamentals of VR that have been defined since the 80's. In essence, he's the one who figured out how to put it all together for cheap. For comparison, a Virtuality Pod in 1994 cost $65,000, not including the computer. An Oculus Rift can be had for under $700.

Additionally, early in the development, Valve lent their research to John Carmack and Palmer Luckey (and Sony) under the guise that a rising tide raises all ships. When Mark Zuckerberg bought Oculus, the pitch they used to sell him the company wasn't the oculus rift. They didn't show him their current (at the time) DK2 prototype, but rather they showed him valve's prototype:

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Zuckerberg bought Oculus with the intent of them making Valve's prototype into a consumer product. They tried to buy Valve's VR team from Valve after buying Oculus, but the vast majority of the VR team remained at Valve.

Either way, it's dumb to allege that he stole technology or is just a bumbling businessman. The guy has been in EE subcultures for over a decade, he's not a flash in the pan and fly by night venture capitalist.[/QUOTE]

Oh [I]Jesus[/I]. Wonder if Zuckerberg even realized this.
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btown said:
Gear VR is made by Samsung, no reason to avoid it unless you're afraid it will explode or something.
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GearVR is manufactured by Samsung, but the software is all oculus. It is very much an Oculus product.

If you want phone VR, wait for Android N and Google DayDream. It's like GearVR, but from google and works with a variety of Android N phones (including samsung ones), not just sumsung ones.
 
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Krejlooc

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Juan29.zapata said:
Oh Jesus. Wonder if Zuckerberg even realized this.
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Of course he did. Zuckerberg bought Oculus specifically because he expected Valve's team to jump ship to Oculus once he bought them. He bought Oculus specifically to try and get Valve's team. That was Zuckerberg's plan.

To his credit, he did get Michael Abrash out of the plan.
 
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Krejlooc said:
Of course he did. Zuckerberg bought Oculus specifically because he expected Valve's team to jump ship to Oculus once he bought them. He bought Oculus specifically to try and get Valve's team. That was Zuckerberg's plan.

To his credit, he did get Michael Abrash out of the plan.
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That's even more hilarious. 2 billion dollars to get a fucking team, and only get one person. Although Michael is still pretty important in the organization.
 
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Krejlooc

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Juan29.zapata said:
That's even more hilarious. 2 billion dollars to get a fucking team, and only get one person. Although Michael is still pretty important in the organization.
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I mean, they got more than just one person, Michael Abrash isn't the only person to jump ship. And they also got Oculus and all their research, which at that time included 2 shipping consumer (as in, not-enterprise) headsets and software being licensed out to Samsung. But it also explains why the tracking design of the rift and vive diverged so suddenly after the facebook buyout, when they were evolving pretty concurrently prior.
 
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Showing someone else's product to sell your company is some next level shittiness. I can't imagine Valve's reaction when they found out about this and found out he planned on taking their employees too.
 
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Alucrid

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palmer be nimble

palmer be quick

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Krejlooc

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Trojita said:
Showing someone else's product to sell your company is some next level shittiness.
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To be fair, Valve's room wasn't a product, it was research that they were freely sharing with Oculus so Oculus could integrate it into their retail product. When Oculus showed Zuckerberg the Valve room, they did so because it was the single best VR demonstration on the planet at the time, and they were one of like 3 installations world-wide that had such a room because Valve wanted them to have it.
 
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Krejlooc

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marrec said:
Yessss tell me we're in for some entitled meltdown soon pleeeease
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Palmer Luckey hasn't regularly posted online in months, since the last time he stuck his foot in his mouth. I don't think he'll ever have a regular online presence ever again.
 
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kai3345 said:
dude has been a lowkey shitstain for a while. this is his girlfriend:
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Holy fuck.

Edit: My god her Twitter is like a racist parody..but real.
Even re tweeted a Gamergate tweet about ZQ... "To Make You Feel Even Better, ZQ’s Book Deal Went to Shit"
Im speechless this women is vile.
 
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Krejlooc said:
I mean, they got more than just one person, Michael Abrash isn't the only person to jump ship. And they also got Oculus and all their research, which at that time included 2 shipping consumer (as in, not-enterprise) headsets and software being licensed out to Samsung. But it also explains why the tracking design of the rift and vive diverged so suddenly after the facebook buyout, when they were evolving pretty concurrently prior.
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So you're saying that prior to facebook buying occulus they were planning a lighthouse style inside out solution? I don't recall ever reading about that.


As far as zuck expecting to thwart valve and have their crew jump ship.. that sounds a bit like a tall tale
 
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you'd think someone who paid all that money for a meme task force would know better than to try and erase something from the internet
 
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Jtwo said:
So you're saying that prior to facebook buying occulus they were planning a lighthouse style inside out solution? I don't recall ever reading about that.
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This is a photo from Palmer Luckey (that he posted on an engineering site) demonstrating research done by Oculus on an inside-out tracking system they were working on after being bought by Facebook.

As far as zuck expecting to thwart valve and have their crew jump ship.. that sounds a bit like a tall tale
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it's not

Brandon Iribie:

“While we were working on iterating with the Rift and getting the developer kit out, scrambling as fast we we could to ship you something, Michael Abrash, Atman Binstock and the Valve VR team were hard at work on R&D.” Iribe revealed “They were working on trying to solve the elephant in the room: motion sickness. In September 2013 Abrash called and said “Brendan, we have something I think you’re going to want to see.” When Abrash calls and says that, you go.”

Iribe continued, revealing that he flew to Valve’s headquarters as soon as possible to sample their VR work. There he saw the now-famous VR room, which has tracking markers posted across the walls, floor and ceiling pf ‘VR wallpaper’, which the developer claimed had eradicated motion sickness. He even explained his skepticism, given that both Iribe and Abrash are noted for their sensitivity to motion sickness. As the CEO put it: “Literally a few head turns and we’re out.”

“So they strapped on this kind of clunky 3D printed headset, circuit boards exposed, dangling wires, it was really reminiscent of Palmer’s prototype, but a little bit better; no hot glue or duct tape. Then came this game changing moment, a moment that I will absolutely never forget, when I knew VR was really going to work, and it was going to work for more than just enthusiasts and nerds like us, like me. It was going to work for the entire world. As I looked around, I felt great and I felt like I was there. All of a sudden this switch in the back of my head flipped. And instead of thinking ‘wow this is a really neat VR demo’, bam, I was in it and I believed I was there.”

Iribe explained that he even tried to convince himself that he wasn’t really there, sometimes taking the headset off to reassure himself. “I left the room feeling more motivated than ever. I left the room feeling good.”

Valve’s VR prototype has been seen since, although the company has always maintained that it will support the Oculus Rift instead of rivaling it. Of course, both Michael Abrash and Atman Binstock now work for Oculus VR itself. We may never see the HMD again, then, but at the very least VR fans can be thankful that its work led to work where Oculus VR currently finds itself. VRFocus will continue to follow any and all stories out of Oculus Connect, reporting back with the latest updates.
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Alan Yates:

Facebook charged Oculus with securing the employment of those that made The Valve Room they were sold on work before the sale. Unfortunately for them they did not succeed and the great majority of the team that actually made it work remains at Valve.
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Michael Abrash:

Valve’s goal is to enable great VR for the PC, so we’ve shared what we’ve learned through our R&D with Oculus. We’ve showed them our prototypes and demos, we’ve explained how our hardware works, and we’ve provided them with feedback on the ir hardware designs. By showing them a prototype with low persistence, we convinced Oculus of its importance, and the lack of blur in Crystal Cove is a direct result of that. We collaborated with Oculus on tracking as well. We’re continuing to work with them to improve tracking, displays, lenses, and calibration, and we’re excited about where they’re headed. If Oculus executes well, and so far they seem to be, I think they could well deliver strong presence on the PC within the next two years; we hope that happens, because it would be a huge boost for PC VR.
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I mean, I literally gave you a photo of Zuckerberg trying Valve's demo yet you still don't believe me?
 
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Krejlooc

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jack_package_200 said:
What did he do the last time?
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Last time was about Revive and Facebook's position on non-oculus headsets and Luckey giving contradictory statements about their position. He got fried over it online by VR enthusiasts, and eventually went on a rant about how Facebook deserved VR exclusives, and started mocking people who were upset at their stance.
 
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I mean, I literally gave you a photo of Zuckerberg trying Valve's demo yet you still don't believe me?
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Excuse me lol? A photo doesn't make a narrative, I was just asking for clarification! Also got a link for those quotes? :p

Thanks!
 
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LOL what a shitbag.

But dig deep enough and there's probably a ton of game industry members (or any other industry you follow) that support Trump.
 
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NoblesseOblige

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Nimble America says it’s dedicated to proving that “shitposting is powerful and meme magic is real,” according to the company’s introductory statement
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Could a mod change Team Alucard's name to Nimble America?
 
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Krejlooc

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Jtwo said:
Wait what? One side of valve or occulus?
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First up - Oculus has one C.

Second - Lighthouse isn't the only tracking system Valve was working on when Oculus was purchased. Alan Yates has confirmed that Oculus did indeed see the lighthouse system before being bought, but didn't have a version in their "valve room." But at the same time, they had a bunch of other systems in testing, including:

Lighthouse was the 3rd tracking system Valve built and the 7th we investigated deeply. I still have several other tracking tech ideas which are less promising, but at least four of them are viable; Pulsar, Fog Horn, Sparkle Tree and Mirror Magic.
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The image I posted came directly from Palmer Luckey, however. It's an unnamed tracking solution presumed to be derived from one of the Valve solutions listed above.
 
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