You're excluding the PS3 which is tracking similarly but went on to sell 10mil.
This seems so weird? Does Japan just not care about consoles? What do they play there?
what? The mainline games (that are responsible for pushing consoles) in FF, RE, DQ, KH franchises aren't available yet on PS4. What are you talking about?That doesn't change the fact outside of Yo-Kai Watch and Monster Hunter (which wouldn't sell well on it), every major dedicated third party gaming IP is (or will shortly be) on the platform. Metal Gear Solid? Yes. Minecraft? Yes. Resident Evil? Yes. Tales? Yes. Final Fantasy? Yes. Dragon Quest? Yes. Grand Theft Auto? Yes. Overwatch? Yes. Yakuza? Yes. Call of Duty? Yes. Phantasy Star? Yes. God Eater? Yes. Toukiden? Yes. PES? Yes. Kingdom Hearts? Yes. Warriors? Yes. Gundam? Yes. Dragon Ball? Yes. One Piece? Yes. Sword Art Online? Yes.
I see you saying crazy things again .
NX will be getting no where near that number.
Oof, those are some hurt feelings.Okay, cool.
3DS and mobiles.This seems so weird? Does Japan just not care about consoles? What do they play there?
what? The mainline games (that are responsible for pushing consoles) in FF, RE, DQ, KH franchises aren't available yet on PS4. What are you talking about?
And MH is a big deal...
That doesn't change the fact that Nintendo had Mario on it. Animal Crossing? Yes. Donkey Kong? Yes. Dragon Quest? Yes. Wario? Yes. Zelda? Yes. Luigi? Yes. Pikmin? Yes. Super Smash Bros? Yes. Wii Fit U? Yes. Wii Party U? Yes. Xenoblade? Yes. Yoshi? Yes. Bayonetta? Yes. Kirby? Yes. Splatoon? Yes. 1+ year headstart? Yes. Better price? Yes......That doesn't change the fact outside of Yo-Kai Watch and Monster Hunter (which wouldn't sell well on it), every major dedicated third party gaming IP is (or will shortly be) on the platform. Metal Gear Solid? Yes. Minecraft? Yes. Resident Evil? Yes. Tales? Yes. Final Fantasy? Yes. Dragon Quest? Yes. Grand Theft Auto? Yes. Overwatch? Yes. Yakuza? Yes. Call of Duty? Yes. Phantasy Star? Yes. God Eater? Yes. Toukiden? Yes. PES? Yes. Kingdom Hearts? Yes. Warriors? Yes. Gundam? Yes. Dragon Ball? Yes. One Piece? Yes. Sword Art Online? Yes.
Crazy thing like my Splatoon predictions?
NX > PS2 confirmed
Now for real, can you tell me what's crazy about what i said?
I think you missed the "or will shortly be" part of my comment. Within the next year the only one on your list probably MIA will be KH3. But speaking of hardware selling potential, how many people interested in a home console KH in Japan in 20~~ aren't also interested in DQ, Persona, Tales, or Final Fantasy? Wouldn't they already own a PS4? Especially after 2.8? I feel audience overlap is going to hurt Resident Evil 7's hardware moving potential, too. Not to mention that I think that game will have a hard enough time selling itself in Japan.
MH isn't a big deal on home consoles. See how Toukiden and God Eater have fared on PS4 for a sample. Even Toukiden 2, which was designed for PS4, sold like trash compared to the original.
Not bad for Nintendo's main platform that launched 5 1/2 years ago. #ItPrintsMoneyMeanwhile, 3ds is quietly trucking along:
NA:19 Million
EU:16.27 Million
Japan:21.03 Million
Rest: 3.75 Million
Total: 60.05 Million
Live camera of the home console race in Japan:
PS4
WiiU
XBO
It sells backwards in Japan.Very symbolic that XB1 is facing the wrong way.
That doesn't change the fact that Nintendo had Mario on it. Animal Crossing? Yes. Donkey Kong? Yes. Dragon Quest? Yes. Wario? Yes. Zelda? Yes. Luigi? Yes. Pikmin? Yes. Super Smash Bros? Yes. Wii Fit U? Yes. Wii Party U? Yes. Xenoblade? Yes. Yoshi? Yes. Bayonetta? Yes. Kirby? Yes. Splatoon? Yes. 1+ year headstart? Yes. Better price? Yes......
And Sony had.... Knack ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
PS4 & Knack's ~2 1/2 years outsold WiiU's ~4 years. Knack truly IS the game of the generation right now.
Good job Nintendo. But hey, now you can innovate with a Runner game on iOS ¯\_(ツ_/¯
That doesn't change the fact that Nintendo had Mario on it. Animal Crossing? Yes. Donkey Kong? Yes. Dragon Quest? Yes. Wario? Yes. Zelda? Yes. Luigi? Yes. Pikmin? Yes. Super Smash Bros? Yes. Wii Fit U? Yes. Wii Party U? Yes. Xenoblade? Yes. Yoshi? Yes. Bayonetta? Yes. Kirby? Yes. Splatoon? Yes. 1+ year headstart? Yes. Better price? Yes......
And Sony had.... Knack ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
PS4 & Knack's ~2 1/2 years outsold WiiU's ~4 years. Knack truly IS the game of the generation right now.
Good job Nintendo. But hey, now you can innovate with a Runner game on iOS ¯\_(ツ_/¯
Wii U is a failure. That's why I don't think PS4 outselling it is a praise worthy accomplishment.
#FactsDo you actually believe these things you are saying?
This seems so weird? Does Japan just not care about consoles? What do they play there?
This seems so weird? Does Japan just not care about consoles? What do they play there?
Crazy thing like my Splatoon predictions?
NX > PS2 confirmed
This seems so weird? Does Japan just not care about consoles? What do they play there?
I don't think that matters given the state of the Japanese industry. If things were selling as well as they did 10-20 years ago, yeah, I'd see what you're saying. However, the industry isn't in any sort of state to fully support all those IP (and, as pointed out, the biggest guns have still yet to launch).That doesn't change the fact outside of Yo-Kai Watch and Monster Hunter (which wouldn't sell well on it), every major dedicated third party gaming IP is (or will shortly be) on the platform. Metal Gear Solid? Yes. Minecraft? Yes. Resident Evil? Yes. Tales? Yes. Final Fantasy? Yes. Dragon Quest? Yes. Grand Theft Auto? Yes. Overwatch? Yes. Yakuza? Yes. Call of Duty? Yes. Phantasy Star? Yes. God Eater? Yes. Toukiden? Yes. PES? Yes. Kingdom Hearts? Yes. Warriors? Yes. Gundam? Yes. Dragon Ball? Yes. One Piece? Yes. Sword Art Online? Yes.
Being No.1 in a dying japanese console market still means.... you're No.1 ¯\_(ツ_/¯
Not bad beating No.2's ~4 years in only ~2 1/2 years with nearly no effort at all.
Isn't that say more about the Wii U?
That you expect NX to sell over 21 million in mobile land .
SE putting all the games on mobile\handheld the same time just going to hurt NX .
You tell me:
One of these is unlike the other.
This seems so weird? Does Japan just not care about consoles? What do they play there?
Meanwhile, 3ds is quietly trucking along:
NA:19 Million
EU:16.27 Million
Japan:21.03 Million
Rest: 3.75 Million
Total: 60.05 Million
Still leading all gaming hardware this generation. But I guess that Nintendo is doomed regardless so whatever.
IMO, pretty awful numbers for EU.Meanwhile, 3ds is quietly trucking along:
NA:19 Million
EU:16.27 Million
Japan:21.03 Million
Rest: 3.75 Million
Total: 60.05 Million
Uhhhh.... when PS3 launched it was outsold by PS2 for a long time basically everywhere.
December 2006 NPD:
PS2 1.4 mm
PS3 490.7 K
December 2007 NPD:
PS2 1.1 million
PS3 797.6 K
Thread is amusing.
The PS4 passing the Wii U in Japan, which is heavily mobile, handheld/3DS centric in... less time...is looked at as meh news by some.
Meanwhile the 3DS selling 60+ million worldwide after being on the market for 5+ years...is a great accomplishment.
3ds launched Feb 2011 in Japan -- 5 years 7 months
Wii U launched in Japan Dec 2012 -- 3 years 9 months
PS4 launched in Japan Feb 2014 -- 2 years 7 months
Interesting. Very interesting.
Lmao yes it willOnly 3 million install base? Final Fantasy XV isn't hitting 1 million in Japan :/
More incentive for PC/NX ports?
I knew it was dire over there, but I don't think I ever realized how dire it was.
Console market really, really struggling in Japan.
So yeah, the PS4 and Wii U couldn't do much against mobile. It also shows the PS4 couldn't do much against Wii U either when Sony and third parties weren't suffering the same HD development troubles as Nintendo.
PS4 taking the lead without FF/DQ/MH/KH is pretty crazy. I imagine the install base would probably be double what it is had those franchises been available within the first two years. It'll be interesting to see what kind of numbers FFXV does in Japan when it launches in November.
But they are. Japanese third parties still aren't as fast (whether it's time, team size, or money and further lack thereof due to mobile preference in Japan) and they are the ones that would have had an effect on this. Imagine if it didn't take almost 3 years before the console were getting anything like a PS4-level FF and DQ11 still feels ages away even though it was teased. Imagine if it could get titles like that at a proper frequency, which sadly won't happen both due to Japanese devs and the Japanese consumers favoring handhelds.
FFXV is only just coming out finally (even if they've actually been quite fast - 4 years is basically western-level speed at PS4-level development), Square-Enix had virtually nothing until this year, Clap Hanz is taking ages on something western devs would probably consider not-that-technically-difficult in Hot Shots Golf, Tales still hasn't made a PS4 exclusive nor is Persona 5 one and yet that game still took forever to get made despite mainly being a "PS3 game" like Tales, etc.
Will never cease to amuses me HOW MUCH microsoft fucked up in the japanese market.
For reference, the lifetime sales of the VIRTUAL BOY in japan were 630.000, TEN TIMES MORE than what xbone has
Will never cease to amuses me HOW MUCH microsoft fucked up in the japanese market.
For reference, the lifetime sales of the VIRTUAL BOY in japan were 630.000, TEN TIMES MORE than what xbone has
You're going all over the place.
I said third parties in general, not Japanese ones. FFXV is not the norm for Japanese third party development.
Most Japanese third parties use middleware to deal with the crux of most development issues. As we know Unreal Engine 4 is becoming a popular choice for devs there.
Citing FFXV... a game that had been in a mess of development for over 10 years with its own failed engine doesn't describe the state of Japanese developers in general.
It also had the benefit of being released more than 5 years ago, and even then, will sell far less than half of the DS at lifetime
What's next, passing Xbox 360?
To put it into greater context, what 3DS has sold in a single territory total in 5+ years, PS4 usually does in about a year. It will catch up to 3DS's lifetime total and surpass it very soon based on its current trajectory.
It has over 2 years in headstart against the PS4, I'll you give you that. However, I think it has a better chance of reaching half DS numbers than the PS4 has of reaching half PS2 numbers.
You're looking at the wrong numbers. Look at the hardware weekly sales since MGS5 launched more than a year ago.
Thread is amusing.
The PS4 passing the Wii U in Japan, which is heavily mobile, handheld/3DS centric in... less time...is looked at as meh news by some.
Meanwhile the 3DS selling 60+ million worldwide after being on the market for 5+ years...is a great accomplishment.
3ds launched Feb 2011 in Japan -- 5 years 7 months
Wii U launched in Japan Dec 2012 -- 3 years 9 months
PS4 launched in Japan Feb 2014 -- 2 years 7 months
Interesting. Very interesting.
Will never cease to amuses me HOW MUCH microsoft fucked up in the japanese market.
For reference, the lifetime sales of the VIRTUAL BOY in japan were 630.000, TEN TIMES MORE than what xbone has
That doesn't change the fact that Nintendo had Mario on it. Animal Crossing? Yes. Donkey Kong? Yes. Dragon Quest? Yes. Wario? Yes. Zelda? Yes. Luigi? Yes. Pikmin? Yes. Super Smash Bros? Yes. Wii Fit U? Yes. Wii Party U? Yes. Xenoblade? Yes. Yoshi? Yes. Bayonetta? Yes. Kirby? Yes. Splatoon? Yes. 1+ year headstart? Yes. Better price? Yes......
And Sony had.... Knack ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
PS4 & Knack's ~2 1/2 years outsold WiiU's ~4 years. Knack truly IS the game of the generation right now.
Good job Nintendo. But hey, now you can innovate with a Runner game on iOS ¯_(ツ_/¯