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[Manmademan]

It just needs to charge using a standard USB port. Everything that can charge needs to charge using a standard USB port.

I have a couple of high end battery packs designed to charge tablets, with 2.2a and 2.4a charge ports. something like that would probably help to mitigate the issue of heavy power drain...and I can see third party battery solutions coming if it picks up any kind of audience.

 

[fossi8]

These are great posts, each in their own right

Thank God for common sense.

Exactly, can we close the thread now?

 

[oti]

How can there be touch screen controls when every game is supposed to work with a pro controller?

If it's something like Layton you could just use the stick to move around pictures. If it's Phoenix Wright you could do the same with buttons etc.

If we're talking Brain Training or Picross, yeah, I don't know. Maybe they brand them differently to make clear they don't work on TV?

 

[ozfunghi]

I'll repeat what i said, yet shorter:

TX2 (Pascal based successor to TX1) which is rumored to be inside the final hardware is 60% more POWER EFFICIENT than the TX1 inside the devkit.

 

[Steiner]

Poor naive Steiner. If you think Switch will get any current lasting AAA support from any of those guys you're in for a treat

We'll see. =]

 

[plan9]

Even if it turns out to be true, which I doubt, battery life is still 3 hours better than PS4 and Xbone, so nothing to worry about.

 

[Krowley]

I'll repeat what i said, yet shorter:

TX2 (Pascal based successor to TX1) which is rumored to be inside the final hardware is 60% more POWER EFFICIENT than the TX1 inside the devkit.

But we don't even know if the comment is based on the devkit.

If the battery comment came from Ubisoft, it could be based on experience with the dev units, but it could also be based on projections Nintendo have given developers to expect for the final version of the hardware. Couldn't it? Maybe the devkits only last an hour.

I guess what I'm saying is, this could be perfectly accurate just as easily as it could be entirely inaccurate. Who really knows?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Why didn't Nintendo use 540p screen vs using a 720p screen? Granted, everyone here would be bitching about that as well, but wouldn't a 540p screen preserve battery life a bit more in handheld mode?

By 540p do you also mean smaller, like 4" rather than 6"? But either way it would only do so much, since it's still got beefy innards to power regardless of output. I'd vote for 3 hours of 6" 720p over 4 hours of 4" 540p, given the choice. But maybe that's the sort of thing a later/smaller/cheaper 2DS-type model of the system will do.

I'd hope the dock would do something. I can't imagine 720p being acceptable in 2017 when plugged into a TV.

So whine when devs make that choice. I probably will. The built-in screen doesn't define what it can output to another screen.

 

[shadow2810]

But we don't even know if the comment is based on the devkit.

It's on the title, no?

Laura Dale: NX battery 3 hours max on dev kit, dock improves performance, touchscreen

 

[Tathanen]

Maybe it's worth mentioning, that this is based on a devkit, and that the devkits are supposedly running on a Tegra X1 while the retail console are supposedly using the pascal based successor to the X1... which is 60% more power efficient than the Tegra X1. So... if the Ubi dev states "3hrs at best" and Nintendo says "between 3-5 hrs", that might just be the case. And 3-5 is basically what i was expecting.

Can you point me to this actual rumor? Is it from someplace with a sound track record re: NX leaks?

 

[Bruce Springsteen]

how is this account so funny so consistently ?

 

[SinCityAssassin]

But we don't even know if the comment is based on the devkit.

If the battery comment came from Ubisoft, it could be based on experience with the dev units, but it could also be based on projections Nintendo have given developers to expect for the final version of the hardware. Couldn't it? Maybe the devkits only last an hour.

I guess what I'm saying is, this could be perfectly accurate just as easily as it could be entirely inaccurate. Who really knows?

The tweets directly refers to the Ubisoft dev referencing the dev kit. I don't know how much clearer it can get for that.

 

[Oersted]

But we don't even know if the comment is based on the devkit.

If the battery comment came from Ubisoft, it could be based on experience with the dev units

It is based on the dev kit

 

[Xhaner5]

There we go baby I said the dock has to have some more powah

Do you guys know about this, is the "home" part the dock ?!?!?

NX

N+X - Switch between portable less power, stationary more power, makes sense right ?

4+6GB = 10 GB of RAM ?

Where's that "nintendo's back" gif

EDIT1:

2 Game card slots ? x2 = For big titles using 2 game cards 32GB each ? and if the 400MB/s number is right, that's potential of 800MB/s read speed, loading times would be insane.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Whoa, hope to god that battery life doesn't represent the final product.

 

[bounchfx]

nice, charging port on the unit itself. perfect. accelerometer too! just what I hoped. 720p is plenty for a screen that size too but I'm glad it's up to 1080 for the dock, it had to be

 

[Krowley]

It's on the title, no?

The tweets directly refers to the Ubisoft dev referencing the dev kit. I don't know how much clearer it can get for that.

It is based on the dev kit

I'll take your word for it, but here is the tweet from the main post:

To those asking about battery life on Nintendo Switch, I’m hearing “mediocre” battery life.

— Laura Kate Dale (@LaurakBuzz) October 20, 2016

Source A (Nintendo) described the Switch as having a “mediocre” battery life. Source B (Ubisoft) has said a maximum battery life of three hours.

The word dev kit is not mentioned once in that tweet. That's the only reason I bring it up.
;

 

[Oersted]

Whoa, hope to god that battery life doesn't represent the final product.

The consumer product and the devkit are not the same, yes.

 

[oti]

There we go baby I said the dock has to have some more powah

Do you guys know about this, is the "home" part the dock ?!?!?

NX

N+X - Switch between portable less power, stationary more power, makes sense right ?

4+6GB = 10 GB of RAM ?

Where's that "nintendo's back" gif

what is this?

 

[Django.Mango]

What kind of digital games? If you're talking Virtual Console, the jury's still out on that one. We don't know. Ideally they'll transfer over, but Nintendo hasn't done that in the past and I anticipate disappointment again here. That's if they even have a Virtual Console.

Do you mean actual, un-emulated Wii U and 3DS games? Presumably they're going to stay there as they haven't signaled backward compatibility at all. Due to differences in architecture and form factor, I'm not expecting backwards compatibility in any form.

They should see those people who baught digital games as their ambassadors. It would be a huge disappointment indeed. You could transfer your wii vc titles to the wiiU? I dont know anymore.

But the people have their NIN accounts and bills, it would surprise me if they would let us buy the games we have already purchased again, just because we have a new input device.

This anti consumer behaviour would be hardly acceptable.

 

[EDarkness]

There we go baby I said the dock has to have some more powah

Do you guys know about this, is the "home" part the dock ?!?!?

NX

N+X - Switch between portable less power, stationary more power, makes sense right ?

4+6GB = 10 GB of RAM ?

Where's that "nintendo's back" gif

I'm pretty sure some folks said this was fake a few days ago....

 

[Council Pop]

Three hours battery life is still better than I get on my iPhone when playing Pokemon Go.

 

[Maintenance]

What a terrible battery.

Absolute crap.

 

[Nerokis]

That the CPU of the Switch is better than what PS4 and Xbox One have, although still far from a decent PC CPU.


Compared to what, the Wii U? I think you're wrong.

I'm prepared to be impressed.

But Nintendo's thing isn't graphics, they seriously need this thing to be priced competitively, and I imagine the emphasis on portability creates a more delicate balance with the specs. Do we really think the Switch is going to compete with the X1 or PS4 in terms of power?

 

[SinCityAssassin]

I'll take your word for it, but here is the tweet from the main post:



The word dev kit is not mentioned once in that tweet. That's the only reason I bring it up.
;

Laura Kate Dale‏ @LaurakBuzz
Ubi source is most familiar with the dev kit, but believes the retail jkit won't see a big jump.

The dev himself believes there won't be a big jump. But we won't know anything till Nintendo says anything.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

The consumer product and the devkit are not the same, yes.

I was kind of leery about updating the title just because I'm not altogether optimistic that the final retail unit is going to fare much better. I'm not saying it will or won't. I'm just saying based on the specs, if we're talking about a scenario like playing Zelda for hours straight, I'm really not expecting miracles here. 3 hours doesn't strike me as ludicrously bad.

 

[Council Pop]

There we go baby I said the dock has to have some more powah

Do you guys know about this, is the "home" part the dock ?!?!?

NX

N+X - Switch between portable less power, stationary more power, makes sense right ?

4+6GB = 10 GB of RAM ?

Where's that "nintendo's back" gif

This is fake, the 'Tegra X2' thing gives it away- the whole X2 obsession is a fanboy thing, in reality it's just a custom Tegra chip made specifically for this device and has never been called X2.

 

[plan9]

But we don't even know if the comment is based on the devkit.

Good point, might be based on BS too.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

What a terrible battery.

Absolute crap.

I'm reading this as though it was coming from Trump. "The Switch battery -- have you guys seen this thing? It's an absolute disaster. Very sad."

 

[sixteen-bit]

Three hours battery life is still better than I get on my iPhone when playing Pokemon Go.

Back of the box quote

 

[Oersted]

I'll take your word for it, but here is the tweet from the main post:



The word dev kit is not mentioned once in that tweet. That's the only reason I bring it up.
;

You only read the OP not the modedited title, didn't you?

Anyway

https://mobile.twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/789491325532004352

 

[Rodin]

I'm prepared to be impressed.

But Nintendo's thing isn't graphics, they seriously need this thing to be priced competitively, and I imagine the emphasis on portability creates a more delicate balance with the specs. Do we really think the Switch is going to compete with the X1 or PS4 in terms of power?

No, but the gulf between Wii U and Xbox One is large enough that the Switch can be significantly more powerful than the former without touching the latter. A PS4-->PS4 Pro upgrade means almost the same CPU, same RAM (with a bit more free for games) and a 387gflops GPU. I expect more, especially CPU wise.

I'm reading this as though it was coming from Trump. "The Switch battery -- have you guys seen this thing? It's an absolute disaster. Very sad."

Lol

 

[Xhaner5]

10GB of ram does seem a bit too much for nintendo right ?

 

[Cheeseman Battitude]

ROFL, same battery life as Gamepad.

Buying the high capacity battery for it was a good idea that I had.

 

[Herb Alpert]

Exactly, can we close the thread now?

no, all this positivity must have angered some people. here they can vent.

 

[CO_Andy]

Whoa, hope to god that battery life doesn't represent the final product.

On the flip side it means Nintendo ain't cheaping out on hardware power.

There's also this old thread that sez Nintendo wants to be competitive on the hardware front instead of doing its own thing like the previous two gens.

 

[Okami Haundo]

I'm reading this as though it was coming from Trump. "The Switch battery -- have you guys seen this thing? It's an absolute disaster. Very sad."

"My hybrid will have the best battery. The. Best. And Nintendo is gonna pay for it."

 

[Xhaner5]

Many on Twitter have drawn my attention to this interview with IGN where Nintendo state that “The dock is not the main console unit of Nintendo Switch… The main function of the Nintendo Switch Dock is to provide an output to the TV, as well as charging and providing power to the system.”

To that, I reply that they repeatedly use the words “main function” and “Main Console” here which still leaves a lot of room for clarity. I believe these statements were aimed at clarifying the Switch was not another Wii U style console rather than saying the dock won’t in any way alter game performance. You can’t play the dock without the handheld, but that doesn’t mean the dock won’t improve game performance.

I totally agree with that, the emphaisis is that they point out "main" which means that it may not be the sole part, which means the dock may be SUPPLEMENTAL PROCESSING DEVICE ! Fingers crossed.

 

[Pif]

Extended battery vendors rejubilating.

No word on gyros in the joycons??

 

[sanstesy]

I was kind of leery about updating the title just because I'm not altogether optimistic that the final retail unit is going to fare much better. I'm not saying it will or won't. I'm just saying based on the specs, if we're talking about a scenario like playing Zelda for hours straight, I'm really not expecting miracles here. 3 hours doesn't strike me as ludicrously bad.

Yeah, not sure what that thread title change should accomplish. Rather, it is a good realization for some people judging by the response here.

Even if this is wrong one way or another, it is not like it changes the reality of the current battery life situation in the tech industry.

 

[BeforeU]

Jack of all trades and master of none. This is what the switch is.

 

[Pie and Beans]

That the CPU of the Switch is better than what PS4 and Xbox One have, although still far from a decent PC CPU.

The NX/Switch doesn't have an x86 architecture. It... is a portable. It has ARM. None of that thread is relevant.

 

[AmyS]

edit: moved to new page.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

I'm reading this as though it was coming from Trump. "The Switch battery -- have you guys seen this thing? It's an absolute disaster. Very sad."

Low energy.

 

[Aces&Eights]

In addition to the great posts about how a dev kit does not reflect the final product I would add that there are ways to enhance battery life on almost any electronic device that plays media. On my phone, I don't have the brightness at max, I turn off apps I don't need running, etc. Nintendo very well might have different "modes" for playing on the ago a la all features on for when playing against other people across wifi or a mode that turns off all juice sucking process when you just want to sit and play a SP game.

We can't jump to conclusions until more is revealed. I think they nailed the form and function and especially the marketing. Most thought they were going fall on their face. We should give them a little benefit until we know for sure the FINAL specs.

 

[Rodin]

The NX/Switch doesn't have an x86 architecture. It... is a portable. It has ARM. None of that thread is relevant.

LCGeek never said it was x86. I never said it was x86. The reddit user was obviously full of shit, but that's irrelevant. I linked a specific post, not the rumor in the op.

 

[Interfectum]

Well the thing is about the size of an iPad mini, give or take a couple of inches. And those things last forever, with what is most likely better hardware, at a much higher resolution, even while playing games.

But they also cost $400.

It "lasts forever" cause you are surfing GAF and checking email, not playing Skyrim for 3 hours straight.

 

[Nags]

Jack of all trades and master of none. This is what the switch is.

Basically. But I'm not too convinced it will have the flexibility "all trades".

 

[Steve Youngblood]

Basically. But I'm not too convinced it will have the flexibility "all trades".

What does this even mean?

 

[Socreges]

Notwithstanding how premature these reports are, I'd rather pay a premium to get a better battery. But no doubt this console is going to be very demanding while portable given the specs, screen, etc, so Nintendo has probably struggled to find that balance between capacity and affordability.

Worst case scenario I would use a battery pack to compensate