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Behold Nintendo Switch (March 2017, Hybrid w/ Dock, Detachable Controllers, Nvidia)

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valouris

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All I want to hear to be there day one is an account system that gives you discounts for upgrading to Switch versions of WiiU/3DS/VC games.
 

tiijj

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Nintendo usually release a Zelda edition console/handheld when they release a zelda game. I wonder if they will release one when the breath of the wild comes out but the timing is weird since the game will be released around the same time as the switch.
 
I realise I'm being dumb here, but can somebody please clarify the trigger switches.

Do we know for sure there's an R1 and an R2?
Is the R2 round the back that we can't see?

Also, when taking the joy-cons out to play local multiplayer and you have to hold them horizontally, are we assuming R1 will now be on the 'curve' at the bottom of the controller, with R2 on the top? (the button in the red circle I'm assuming will be R2). It will be weird having a trigger button underneath on the curve.

I realise what I'm saying might not make sense as it's early.

You can see in the images that there is an R1 and R2.

I don't really get what you mean, but if you look at the trailer you can see that the detachable controllers have shoulder buttons that are hidden when not detached. I hope it makes sense as it isn't easy to explain.
 

JonnyKong

Member
You can see in the images that there is an R1 and R2.

I don't really get what you mean, but if you look at the trailer you can see that the detachable controllers have shoulder buttons that are hidden when not detached. I hope it makes sense as it isn't easy to explain.

Yeah I realise I'm not making much sense haha, I just had a brief moment of being confused about the layout of where all the shoulder buttons are going to be. Thank you for trying though to explain things.
 
Virtual Console sounds reasonable.
Wii U and 3DS tho..

I can't see many Wii U owners - especially those who went digital - shelling 60 or even 40 bucks for essentially the same game but with some tweaks and minor additions. This is not Virtual Console which cost $10 max. They HAVE to lure them into repurchasing the game somehow.
 
IMO it's the first thing that'll get dropped - barely any third parties will do it, and first parties will try but then slowly stop doing it. It just seems the one gimmick from the reveal to be mostly pointless. If you play with friends regularly, just bring along another controller or let them bring one.

Gimmick might not be for you but it can be for kids.
 

valouris

Member
Virtual Console sounds reasonable.
Wii U and 3DS tho..

Oh come on, they can't possibly ask their loyal Wii U crowd to shell another 60 bucks for the same games plus some features. Imho, as a token of good faith they should let you upgrade one for free, and give you a 20% discount or something on the other.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
You can see in the images that there is an R1 and R2.

I don't really get what you mean, but if you look at the trailer you can see that the detachable controllers have shoulder buttons that are hidden when not detached. I hope it makes sense as it isn't easy to explain.

But the analog sticks and buttons are swapped on the joycons. So if the shoulder buttons are always on the 'inside' (flat edge) - one player will be forced to have the analog stick on the left and the other player has the stick on the right.
 

oti

Banned
Hmm, no, but there's millions of Wii remotes in the wild.

Being able to use them would be nice. Good controllers and good way to use the NES mini controllers for VC on Switch. Although that's out of the cards for Japan so I don't know. Kind of a bummer if those new NES mini controllers were not usable with Switch.
 

Nanashrew

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I do hope there will be good discounts for upgrading VC.

I'd also love for only NERD and M2 making the emulators with nice upgrades like fully implementing internal resolution choices for the DS emulator. You can force that in homebrew but it's not without issues.
 

Enkidu

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But the analog sticks and buttons are swapped on the joycons. So if the shoulder buttons are always on the 'inside' (flat edge) - one player will be forced to have the analog stick on the left and the other player has the stick on the right.
No, if they weren't swapped that's what would happen. I actually think this is one of the main reason they are swapped.
 
All I want to hear to be there day one is an account system that gives you discounts for upgrading to Switch versions of WiiU/3DS/VC games.
This. I'm in already, obviously, not this would freshly make it a sweet deal. Transferring ownership from Wii U, too. If they could include disc haha that would be sweet too, but I don't see how they'd do that without involving a Wii U.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
No, if they weren't swapped that's what would happen. I actually think this is one of the main reason they are swapped.

Ah, you're right. I hope they aren't compromising controller layout for single player for the sake of something I don't think will ever get that much use (shared controllers). But then their pro controller is asymmetrical so maybe they're trying to replicate that, and are limited in horizontal space so can't stagger and it ends up being quite low down.
 
Ah, you're right. I hope they aren't compromising controller layout for single player for the sake of something I don't think will ever get that much use (shared controllers). But then their pro controller is asymmetrical so maybe they're trying to replicate that, and are limited in horizontal space so can't stagger and it ends up being quite low down.

Nah, Joy-Cons connected Switch or Grip have the same amount of buttons and triggers as Wii U Pro Controller (plus an additional record (?) button), and so does Nintendo Switch Pro Controller.

And GameCube Controller was asymmetrical, too.
 
Wat about digital Wii games? Will I be able to play my wiiu bought metroid prime trilogy on the nx?!

Unlikely. One of the reasons Wii U had native Wii backwards compatibility was the fact that Wii U processor was built on the same base as the processors for GameCube and Wii, and the console just rebooted into Wii mode. Besides, how would you control it without Wii Remote, Nunchuk and Sensor Bar?
 
I just had a idea last night:

What if the next handheld to replace 3DS Nintendo talked about was a Nintendo Smartphone?

Just think about the possibilities. A Nintendo Phone, with the same tech as NS (just smaller and more elegant) and a custom Android OS on it for around 500-600$ directly compete against Apple and Samsung. Why would people buy a Apple smartphone when they can have a Nintendo Smartphone with all console games on it? I can totally see that in 2018 happening.

A Nintendo Phone which can run every Android game, every Nintendo game and every big AAA game third party developers have on the NS. Like the NS, you can hook it up to your TV and to go you can hook your NS controllers (or smaller versions of them) It would be THE place fo play and replacing regular smartphones as main gaming devices to go.

It would totally make a revolution in mobile gaming. Instead of these half assed mobile games, you get full console experiences on your Nintendo smartphone. It would be exclusive, because it runs only on the custom Android hardware and on the custom Tegra Parker chip.

How does that idea sound to you?
 
I'm sure this was thought of, but I listened to a podcast and they said for future upgrades Nintendo can just make more powerful versions of the tablet and you just "Switch" it with your old tablet into the same dock with everything working with it.
 

japtor

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I just had a idea last night:

What if the next handheld to replace 3DS Nintendo talked about was a Nintendo Smartphone?

Just think about the possibilities. A Nintendo Phone, with the same tech as NS (just smaller and more elegant) and a custom Android OS on it for around 500-600$ directly compete against Apple and Samsung. Why would people buy a Apple smartphone when they can have a Nintendo Smartphone with all console games on it? I can totally see that in 2018 happening.

A Nintendo Phone which can run every Android game, every Nintendo game and every big AAA game third party developers have on the NS. Like the NS, you can hook it up to your TV and to go you can hook your NS controllers (or smaller versions of them) It would be THE place fo play and replacing regular smartphones as main gaming devices to go.

It would totally make a revolution in mobile gaming. Instead of these half assed mobile games, you get full console experiences on your Nintendo smartphone. It would be exclusive, because it runs only on the custom Android hardware and on the custom Tegra Parker chip.

How does that idea sound to you?
I'd sell my Nintendo stock.
 
I just had a idea last night:

What if the next handheld to replace 3DS Nintendo talked about was a Nintendo Smartphone?

Just think about the possibilities. A Nintendo Phone, with the same tech as NS (just smaller and more elegant) and a custom Android OS on it for around 500-600$ directly compete against Apple and Samsung. Why would people buy a Apple smartphone when they can have a Nintendo Smartphone with all console games on it? I can totally see that in 2018 happening.

A Nintendo Phone which can run every Android game, every Nintendo game and every big AAA game third party developers have on the NS. Like the NS, you can hook it up to your TV and to go you can hook your NS controllers (or smaller versions of them) It would be THE place fo play and replacing regular smartphones as main gaming devices to go.

It would totally make a revolution in mobile gaming. Instead of these half assed mobile games, you get full console experiences on your Nintendo smartphone. It would be exclusive, because it runs only on the custom Android hardware and on the custom Tegra Parker chip.

How does that idea sound to you?

Go back to sleep and Hope for a more reasonable dream
 

Speely

Banned
I just had a idea last night:

What if the next handheld to replace 3DS Nintendo talked about was a Nintendo Smartphone?

Just think about the possibilities. A Nintendo Phone, with the same tech as NS (just smaller and more elegant) and a custom Android OS on it for around 500-600$ directly compete against Apple and Samsung. Why would people buy a Apple smartphone when they can have a Nintendo Smartphone with all console games on it? I can totally see that in 2018 happening.

A Nintendo Phone which can run every Android game, every Nintendo game and every big AAA game third party developers have on the NS. Like the NS, you can hook it up to your TV and to go you can hook your NS controllers (or smaller versions of them) It would be THE place fo play and replacing regular smartphones as main gaming devices to go.

It would totally make a revolution in mobile gaming. Instead of these half assed mobile games, you get full console experiences on your Nintendo smartphone. It would be exclusive, because it runs only on the custom Android hardware and on the custom Tegra Parker chip.

How does that idea sound to you?

Finally, someone posted something about Nintendo releasing a smartphone!

Just kidding, bud... but this horse has been run into the ground and kicked repeatedly. Nintendo getting into the most vicious, shark-infested waters in the tech world would not be a good thing for them. They are smartly focused on carving out their own space. One does not veer away from Sony and INTO Apple, for example.
 

oti

Banned
Just think about the possibilities. A Nintendo Phone, with the same tech as NS (just smaller and more elegant) and a custom Android OS on it for around 500-600$ directly compete against Apple and Samsung. Why would people buy a Apple smartphone when they can have a Nintendo Smartphone with all console games on it? I can totally see that in 2018 happening.

What "people"? People on GAF? The rest plays Bejeweled and Clash of Clans and is content as far as video games go.
 

Shiggy

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Looks like the Switch has some new technology:

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Haven't see any screen capable of doing that before.
 

Tarin02543

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The more I think about the Switch the more I realize how intelligent and well thought out the whole concept is.

Might this be a Nintendo renaissance?
 

Coreda

Member
Looks like the Switch has some new technology:

Haven't see any screen capable of doing that before.

Fake consumer interactions in advertisements? What is this world coming to!

I'm surprised by how close it was to all the rumors and mock-ups. Has a bit of an Ouya look to it.
 
Are this many people really unaware of how TV/movies/commercials handle filming TVs? They're never actually filming anything. Take a camera and point it at a TV. It looks like shit. If it's a CRT it's gonna look like shit AND strobe. They always superimpose the stuff playing on a screen in post.

Usually they green-screen it though so things like that layering issue don't happen, but the rumors say the Mario bit was added last minute so I guess it's sort of understandable that they missed it in a rush.
 
Of course it's obvious, just funny to see they missed something there.

I didn't mean to come off like I was calling you out specifically, I've just seen that pointed out several times over the last day and a half and I didn't realize it was something people would be so surprised about. I don't remember if it was this thread or another one but there were people genuinely shocked and disappointed that the people weren't really playing anything.
 

Haines

Banned
I doubt that most people will make use of the portable aspect of the console, just like most people preferred to play Wii U games on their big tv's and not the controller.

That was bc the controller.had a range so u might as well use the TV.
 

killroy87

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Sorry if this has been touched on already, but just for my own curiosity, has Nintendo themselves mentioned inline multiplayer even once yet? The trailer seemed to show local multiplayer exclusively. I don't think Nintendo would be dumb enough to not in use it, but...it's not the most unbelievable thing in the world.
 

Kinokou

Member
Just gotta say that my favorite thing about Nintendo is that they really just march to the beat of their own drum, and that beat is so good!

Also, hope it's possible to buy extra docs without shelling out to much for it.
 

LordKano

Member
Sorry if this has been touched on already, but just for my own curiosity, has Nintendo themselves mentioned inline multiplayer even once yet? The trailer seemed to show local multiplayer exclusively. I don't think Nintendo would be dumb enough to not in use it, but...it's not the most unbelievable thing in the world.

Yeah they're surely dropping the online, that makes perfect sense lol.
 

-Plasma Reus-

Service guarantees member status
What's the price point for this thing? Have they revealed it? What is the expectation?
I hope it's cheaper than the PS4.
 

Vertti

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Even though I'm going to mostly play on big screen it never hurts to have options. Of course a real dedicated home console would probably mean more power but I think I still prefer the portability. For example I watch a ton of football/soccer which limits my game time. With Switch I can do both simultaneously. Or when I visit at my parents house I can easily take Swith with me and play with my younger siblings.
 

KAL2006

Banned
Unlikely. One of the reasons Wii U had native Wii backwards compatibility was the fact that Wii U processor was built on the same base as the processors for GameCube and Wii, and the console just rebooted into Wii mode. Besides, how would you control it without Wii Remote, Nunchuk and Sensor Bar?

NVIDIA Shield can run Dolphin. There are a fee slowdowns but I'm sure a Nintendo made emulator can run it. Plus the NS is more powerful than Shield. As for controls you can just use a Wii Mote and a old sensor. Nintendo can also repackage a Wii Mote and sensor with 1 VC game in retail.
 

Haganeren

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NVIDIA Shield can run Dolphin. There are a fee slowdowns but I'm sure a Nintendo made emulator can run it. Plus the NS is more powerful than Shield. As for controls you can just use a Wii Mote and a old sensor. Nintendo can also repackage a Wii Mote and sensor with 1 VC game in retail.

Way too complicated for the Nintendo i know...
 

m00h

Banned
Is there anyone else who is going to miss the 3D feature of the 3DS if there won't be a direct successor (which is very likely)?
I woke in the moddle of the night and as I couldn't fall asleep again, I picked my N3DS and launchen ACNL to wander around a little bit. I startet to play with the 3D slider to compare how my sleepy eyes will react to the alteration of the 3D intensity, and then I actually noticed how much more lively the world of ACNL looks with the 3D in comparison to 2D. It was quite new for me since I practically never played with 3D off. The game in 2D just looked so faded, pale and boring. It felt like there's something missing. I am sure as hell gonna miss the 3D in the future with Switch being the only device released by Nintendo.
 
As for controls you can just use a Wii Mote and a old sensor. Nintendo can also repackage a Wii Mote and sensor with 1 VC game in retail.

I believe they want to go away from the reputation of "that console manufacturer who makes insane amount of plastic tat and incompatible controllers." I don't see them supporting Wii Remotes (where would you plug Sensor Bar, anyway?)... maybe GameCube Controller Adapter to please Smash crowd and Wii U Pro Controller because of the same set of buttons and probably the same connectivity standard.
 
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