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LPVG: No handheld-only Switch at launch.

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
More Switch details from Laura Dale.

https://t.co/GBI3rw2xyb

According to our source, Nintendo wants to launch the Switch with a clear focus on the hybrid nature of the device core to marketing. While a handheld-only package may come down the line, at launch all bundles of the system will include a dock as to not confuse branding around the name. Nintendo considered internally the idea of selling the handheld portion separately, but had concerns that consumers who purchased the handheld without the dock may still think they could connect it to the TV.
 

Nakho

Member
Nice to see they are concerned about not confusing consumers. Seems they learned a lot from the Wii U.
 
Was this not obvious? The entire point of the system is being able to switch (hehe) between console and handheld. Selling it in such a way that required seperately sold accessories to do the flagship function of the device would be silly.

I wouldn't be surprised if we never get a handheld-only or console-only Switch.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
2018 makes sense - 3DS will be more or less dead by then and the costs for a portable as powerful as Switch should be around/under 200 bucks.
 
This suggests the dock is very cheap to manufacture, which is a good thing in my opinion. I'd love to be able to buy extra docks for $10-20 for other rooms of my house.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Sounds like Nintendo's avoiding the completely obvious pitfalls here. Which is... sadly enough, kind of unusual for them.
 

Trago

Member
What's really needed later is TV-only.

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Zalman

Member
I expect them to eventually release many different form factors. Handheld-only, TV-only. However, it's wise to stick to the hybrid version at launch to avoid confusion.
 

BorkBork

The Legend of BorkBork: BorkBorkity Borking
Probably for the best in terms of marketing, even if they can't sell it for as cheap as possible.
 
This suggests the dock is very cheap to manufacture, which is a good thing in my opinion. I'd love to be able to buy extra docks for $10-20 for other rooms of my house.

Ooh, that's a pretty good idea actually. I'd definitely like one extra one for another room.
The handheld version will serve OG 3DS and 2DS owners. Hopefully it comes sometime in 2018/19. I suspect it will come in a smaller cheaper form factor with no ability to connect to TV.
I think it could still connect to a TV (or else it would lose what makes it the "Switch"), but the dock would probably be sold separately.
 
So if there IS a handhold only option later, what would they call it? Probably something dumb and confusing like 2DS. The Nintendo Circuit Breaker seems apt.
 

Trago

Member
I expect them to eventually release many different form factors. Handheld-only, TV-only. However, it's wise to stick to the hybrid version at launch to avoid confusion.

The great thing about that is, it's all on the same architecture. So games work on everything. I really want a TV only version.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Not surprised. They need one SKU focused on the core switching method at launch.

The question on if they need to release a handheld only model depends on how much the dock really adds to the cost. If a handheld only model isn't really that much cheaper then I get it.

That being said if the dock adds significantly to the cost for people who want multiple Switches, but they don't need the extra dock shit it could hurt sales in the long run.

Nintendo has said shit about the dock or the overall pricing. Plus who knows how much cheaper that will all get overtime.

Not surprising for launch in the slightest though.
 

KORNdoggy

Member
i'd hope the stand alone mobile unit would boost it's battery. because if the rumours are true then it will certainly need it. as a hybrid a 3hour portable battery life is a bit easier to swallow than a device exclusively for being portable.
 

Zalman

Member
Honestly though, what would be the point? If the handheld is that useless to you, then permanently leave it in the dock and use the pro controller. It's Nintendo, a hypothetical TV-only version isn't going to be like the PS4 Pro or Project Scorpio of the Switch, it'd just be a version of the system missing features.
Think about the cost though. If they sold a PSTV-like device without a screen, it would be significantly cheaper.
 
Honestly though, what would be the point? If the handheld is that useless to you, then permanently leave it in the dock and use the pro controller. It's Nintendo, a hypothetical TV-only version isn't going to be like the PS4 Pro or Project Scorpio of the Switch, it'd just be a version of the system missing features.
Saves money for people who will never use it as a handheld?
 

suikodan

Member
Being hybrid, I think it's a weird choice.

I'm in the camp that would buy a Switch as an handheld first and then buy additionnal stuff to dock it.

Hopefully there will be more than one option. I don't want to pay 499$ CAD for something that will serve as a portable first.
 

LewieP

Member
Yeah I'm going to hold fire to see what subsequent devices they make I think.

I'd be far more interested in buying a separate handheld and home console that play the same library than one device which does both (in a compromised manner).
 

RootCause

Member
An sku without a dock?

I really don't see the point in making a handheld version, other than making it smaller. Otherwise it kind of defeats the purpose of the switch.
 

jmizzal

Member
Thats fine as long as they sell it down the line, at least by Fall 2017, when people will start to want more then one
 
i'd hope the stand alone mobile unit would boost it's battery. because if the rumours are true then it will certainly need it. as a hybrid a 3hour portable battery life is a bit easier to swallow than a device exclusively for being portable.
Something something OG 3DS had the same battery power and we shouldn't expect any better

/s
 

Qwark

Member
If the dock is really as low-tech as it seems, the dock shouldn't add that much to the price of the console anyway, right? Maybe like $50? I guess they might pack in some peripherals that you wouldn't need for handheld-only though.
 

JoeM86

Member
Yeah I'm going to hold fire to see what subsequent devices they make I think.

I'd be far more interested in buying a separate handheld and home console that play the same library than one device which does both (in a compromised manner).

How is it in a compromised manner?
 
This implies a handheld only Switch later.

How so? There's no evidence that the dock is more than a piece of dumb plastic with USB/HDMI/charging ports, so it can't add much to the cost of the system, and from an engineering standpoint, it wouldn't necessarily be cheap or easy to match the performance and battery life in a smaller package.

A microconsole SKU seems far more plausible, as they could just keep the same internals while ditching the battery and screen.
 
Being hybrid, I think it's a weird choice.

I'm in the camp that would buy a Switch as an handheld first and then buy additionnal stuff to dock it.

I'm in the camp that would buy it as a home console first (and that's how I will probably use it 99% of the time anyway). I would buy a version with no screen if it's cheaper.
 

jonno394

Member
Think about the cost though. If they sold a PSTV-like device without a screen, it would be significantly cheaper.

The cost of a screen will likely be less than $30-40 (I checked iphone cost breakdown and based on that) I doubt Nintendo would pass all this on, especially when you factor in additional costs for r&d, making a product and marketing etc. I doubt it would be "significantly" cheaper
 
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