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Get your SSDs ready, PS4 Pro supports SATA3
- Thread starter MagicWithEarvin
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Do it then!
DJ Lushious
Member
Say wha-?! Care to explain?
shungokusatsu
Member
Pretty sure Sony either moved up the date or just doesn't care. My local targets and Walmart have the pros but their computers say not to release until 11/9, which Best Buy also shows.
It's weird, you'd think it'd be a fairly easy click winner - once DF did their initial tests, time a few games - slap in a SSD, re-try those games and give an 'preliminary results' type write up.
Would take a few hours tops and (as I said) win loads of clicks.
DJ Lushious
Member
Oh, man, if this becomes true for my local Best Buy I am so there. I preordered my Pro from BB for delivery, though. :'(
shungokusatsu
Member
Seems to show the same for the gaffers who also selected in store pickup, so fingers crossed.
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Åesop
Unconfirmed Member
SSD? Naah, I would prefer more of those zoomed-in comparison screenshots that show 2 different angles ( ͡ ° ͜ʖ ͡°)
katsubento
Member
I know. It's a bit mind boggling.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They probably will be spreading the content over the next few days. A few videos each day.
katsubento
Member
Better. The Pro has a normal 5400 rpm drive supposedly.
follow up question, would the PRO's HDD work in regular PS4 if I swapped them and sold my PS4?
katsubento
Member
Yes
vatstep
This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
My BB pickup order still says the 10th.
Arc07
Member
Same here.
endlessflood
Member
Where are the goddam SSD load time comparisons at? FFS.
katsubento
Member
Can't believe it hasn't happened by a single site or blog that has them. We will see it on GAF first.
We don't know yet.
Vindicator
Member
Can't wait for my PS4Pro to arrive tomorrow so it won't be used until my 2TB Firecuda arrives which i (pre)ordered yesterday...
MekaDragon
Member
Yes, this is making me upset. I don't want to decide until I see results of this.
It's really strange that Digital Foundry hasn't released a video yet.
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Åesop
Unconfirmed Member
Maybe there's an NDA for harddrive speed test?
Coolsambob
Member
Same boat. Will be a whole weekend with a boxed PS4 Pro due to lack of Hard Drive.
uncleniccius
Member
That would make no sense with the fact that actual performance of games can be discussed / analysed now though?Åesop;223782185 said:
a few hours tops lol ok sure
Afaik they have only one console. Just wait.
Sephiroth_VII
Member
How do you see it taking more?
endlessflood
Member
Seems reasonable. Testing methodology:
Select a handful of games that don't have Pro patches, are preferably disc based to speed up install, and have reasonable loading times (e.g. Bloodborne, Witcher 3, GTA V, etc.).
Decide upon an easily reproducible loading event for each game.
Test them on a regular PS4, record results.
Put an SSHD in PS4, record results.
Put an SSD in PS4, record results.
Test them on a stock PS4 Pro, record results.
Put an SSHD in PS4 Pro, record results.
Put an SSD in PS4 Pro, record results.
This of course assumes that they haven't already done easily reproducible testing on a stock PS4.
The HDD swaps can be done in a few minutes, the longest part of the process is waiting for the disc to be copied to the HDD each time.
Yeah, assuming common sense is used and a 'priliminary result' is what's aimed for why not?
They have the machine and have installed some games - then whilst doing initital tests they also include times for loading those games. So the first part is already done. Next step is to plan a simple 3/4 tests including those times already taken and delete as much of the unwanted data as possible from HDD - ok so starting point has cost next to no time.
Next, backup to external SSD, swap the Pro HDD - revert data back - run tests - post results. A few hours tops. Then repeat with a SSHD. Ceratinly could have been done by now.
Edit - actually endlessflood process was quicker, I was just thinking how I would do it so I didn't lose data.
DF are always meticulous in the way they go about their testing (it's why they're respected as much, right?) so I would imagine it's going to take longer than a lot of us expect. They also said they only have a single unit (although I would think that will change soon, if it hasn't already).
With that said, I wish they'd bloody hurry up!
With that said, I wish they'd bloody hurry up!
I agree. Popping in an SSHD is a cinch, as you can swap the original and SSHD at will to compare. Either the news is bad, or there's an embargo still.
Crazymoogle
Member
I would cut them some slack. Maybe they don't have an SSHD or SSD ready to go wherever the PS4 Pro is. Or they're waiting on a Firecuda to arrive. Or they're completely preoccupied with the shitload of games that come out this time of year. Testing is tedious work...
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Åesop
Unconfirmed Member
Do we really need 20 different sites showing us how Skyrim gras looks on PS4 Pro? At least one of them could be smart enough to work on actual new information
Son of Flounder
Member
DF have already stated they only have the one Pro console which they are sharing between the various team members, using if for video capture and other tests.
Testing several drives with multiple games will take a very long time, format the new drive, install the OS onto each drive tested, install the games on each drive, patch each game to the same version etc., that's all before doing any actual speed tests.
This was posted about 30 minutes ago?
How to cut PS4 Pro load times by half.
https://youtu.be/LsVZji072AA
How to cut PS4 Pro load times by half.
https://youtu.be/LsVZji072AA
I can't watch youtube at work, what it say?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's comparing a few game load times with a Pro on stock 1TB vs 240 GB SSD.
Differences come out as follows:
4 seconds faster in Bloodborne
2 seconds faster in Hitman
3 seconds faster in inFamous
7 seconds faster in RoTR
These improvements aren't big enough to shell out for an expensive SSD in my opinion. I would love someone to compare these stock Pro times with OG PS4 too though, just to see if there is any improvements out of the box.
BossDarkseid
Member
Install an SSD, i think
Crazymoogle
Member
25-48% faster loads on 4 games.
Disclaimer: They used a 240GB SSD, which may perform differently than a higher density one. And they only showed 4 specific loads.
The Elite
BOSS
Looks like Stuff has done an SSD test. I have no audio though.
Of the 4 games they tested, the only one that got close to 50% was Tomb Raider at 48%.
Bloodborne managed 23.8% faster (14.32s v 18.8s)
Hitman managed 20.3% faster (5.64s v 7.08s)
Infamous manged 25.1% faster (9.56s v 12.76s)
ROTTR managed 48.5% faster (6.88s v 13.36s)
As someone who had a SSD in my PS4 at launch and then removed it for other uses since the speed difference wasn't enough, I'm not going to bother this time unless more (new) games start to show more results like ROTTR.
an SSHD would once again be the best compromise.
I'm sure DF will have a more exhaustive batch of tests though.
Bloodborne managed 23.8% faster (14.32s v 18.8s)
Hitman managed 20.3% faster (5.64s v 7.08s)
Infamous manged 25.1% faster (9.56s v 12.76s)
ROTTR managed 48.5% faster (6.88s v 13.36s)
As someone who had a SSD in my PS4 at launch and then removed it for other uses since the speed difference wasn't enough, I'm not going to bother this time unless more (new) games start to show more results like ROTTR.
an SSHD would once again be the best compromise.
I'm sure DF will have a more exhaustive batch of tests though.
Witcher 3 should be the reference standard for testing. No other PS4 game demands load improvements more than that game.
Backfoggen
Banned
Seems like I'm keeping the stock HDD then. Bummer but kinda expected.