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Get your SSDs ready, PS4 Pro supports SATA3

jfoul

Member
For those who installed the 2TB Firecuda. What was the total storage capacity showing after install? Mine is showing as 1.77 TB, which seems low even with the PS4 OS/Firmware on it.

EDit: Nvm, it's about right. Actual is 1,862.65 TB.
 

SephiZack

Member
Would a 500GB SSD be enough if I don't plan on buying many AAA games?

Even though many games install files on disc, I don't mind deleting stuff that I don't play anymore.
Right now I'm using just 26 GB of my PS4 Pro HHD and in the near future I'm only planning on playing Steins; Gate 0, FFXV, Persona 5 and indies.
 
Would a 500GB SSD be enough if I don't plan on buying many AAA games?

Even though many games install files on disc, I don't mind deleting stuff that I don't play anymore.
Right now I'm using just 26 GB of my PS4 Pro HHD and in the near future I'm only planning on playing Steins; Gate 0, FFXV, Persona 5 and indies.

You should be fine.
 

Fliesen

Member
Would a 500GB SSD be enough if I don't plan on buying many AAA games?

Even though many games install files on disc, I don't mind deleting stuff that I don't play anymore.
Right now I'm using just 26 GB of my PS4 Pro HHD and in the near future I'm only planning on playing Steins; Gate 0, FFXV, Persona 5 and indies.

The bigger the hard drive, the bigger your backlog can be / the longer the list of games can be that'll be easily accessible at all times.

If you don't hop from game to game a lot and - once you're done with a game - you delete it from local storage, and should you get back, you have a fast internet connection with no data caps.

Then a 500gig SSD should be fine.

If you're into Multiplayer games a lot and you wanna be able to quickly boot up Destiny, Overwatch, Battlefield, CoD IW or Titanfall 2at a moment's notice, that's already almost half of your storage gone for just those few games.
 
Does MLC vs TLC matter for PS4/Pro? Or is it fine to just get the cheapest Sata 3 SSD you can find since the system doesn't fully use an SSD's potential anyway?
 

foxdvd

Member
I grabbed the 150 dollar Crucial mx 300 750gb...and I am happy as can be. Watch Dogs load times are insane...especially fast travel. I wish I had done some testing before I put it in.
 
Hmm. I don't see anything here that makes me regret getting the same HDD I did for my original PS4. The 2TB Seagate Portable. I guess a few seconds load time is good but being able to instantly turn the stock PRO HDD into a portable drive is more important for me.

Now I have two portable drives built out what shipped with my PS4's and I use both of them for extra storage on my XBOX ONE.
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
Put in a 960GB Sandisk Ultra II in my PS4 Pro this weekend, Rise of the Tomb Raider load times decreased by half easily.

All hiccups I had in the menu are gone as well.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
PC Watch did a comparison of stock Pro HDD VS a SSHD:

http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/sp/1030162.html

I can't read it, but it seems their times are on first runs of each thing. Much like described throughout this thread, SSHD are about the same on first run of each thing, then significanly speed up on subsequent runs of the same test. That is how they are designed to work and where impact is maximized. So the first load of UC4 will be about the same, but the 3rd, 4th and so forth will be far faster as the files are then available in the cache rather than the platters.
 

spookyfish

Member
For those who installed the 2TB Firecuda. What was the total storage capacity showing after install? Mine is showing as 1.77 TB, which seems low even with the PS4 OS/Firmware on it.

EDit: Nvm, it's about right. Actual is 1,862.65 TB.

Yeah -- 1.77 TB available on mine, as well.
 
Aaaarrrrggggghhhh!!!!!!

I deleted a bunch of games from my old 2TB PS4 drive before finally backing up 647GB worth of data. Just installed my new 750GB SSD into the Pro and it only shows up as 635GB! So now I can't restore because there isn't enough space. I'll have to reinstall the stock 1TB drive. Restore to that. Delete even more stuff then backup again. Then reinstall the SSD and restore to that. I'd just redownload everything, except I don't want to lose P.T..

I should have researched how much space a 750GB drive would actually show on the PS4. I didn't know it would be that little. Or if I had only deleted one more large game, I would have been good.

*sigh*
 
Aaaarrrrggggghhhh!!!!!!

I deleted a bunch of games from my old 2TB PS4 drive before finally backing up 647GB worth of data. Just installed my new 750GB SSD into the Pro and it only shows up as 635GB! So now I can't restore because there isn't enough space. I'll have to reinstall the stock 1TB drive. Restore to that. Delete even more stuff then backup again. Then reinstall the SSD and restore to that. I'd just redownload everything, except I don't want to lose P.T..

I should have researched how much space a 750GB drive would actually show on the PS4. I didn't know it would be that little. Or if I had only deleted one more large game, I would have been good.

*sigh*
Yeah, we discussed this very same topic about 1000 posts ago. Hindsight, as always, is 20/20. :-/
 

TyrantII

Member
Yup, the OS, Suspend, and Share features take up a good chunk.

Consoles don't just have splash screen anymore, they have full blow OS. Got to keep that in mind when dealing with storage.
 

TyrantII

Member
Damn. I have a hybrid. Is an ssd on ps4 pro really that big of an upgrade? I really don't care about capacity. I usually delete games when I'm done with them.

Relative terms.

Probably 5-30 second faster depending on title, if it's a pro mode game, ect.

SSHD isn't that far off. And SSD isn't getting a full benefit.

That said, it is noticeably faster to me. But, it probably not worth the cost/GB/preformance. But, sometime you got to splurge for no good reason 😀
 

99Luffy

Banned
Would a 500GB SSD be enough if I don't plan on buying many AAA games?

Even though many games install files on disc, I don't mind deleting stuff that I don't play anymore.
Right now I'm using just 26 GB of my PS4 Pro HHD and in the near future I'm only planning on playing Steins; Gate 0, FFXV, Persona 5 and indies.
If youre the type that deletes games after you finish them then yes. I filled up my 500gb with less than 5 retail games and maybe 1-2 years of free PS+ games.
 
Damn. I have a hybrid. Is an ssd on ps4 pro really that big of an upgrade? I really don't care about capacity. I usually delete games when I'm done with them.

If you go for an SSD, vs SSHD, you're probably looking at a 30-80% speed increase (game by game basis) for about two and a half times the price.

The SSD does have the advantage in that the improvements are relatively uniform within each game, whereas SSHD improvements can vary wildly depending upon your usage, even within the same game.

Whether that's worth it is up to you.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Hey Gaf!

Can get my hands on a Samsung 750 Evo 500Gb SSD for a decent price. Good SSD for the PS4Pro?
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Yes, it is. Almost all ssd are.

Thanks buddy, I thought as much but customer service is atrocious where I am so I can never be too sure, if I got something not compatible that would be paramount to chucking it in the ocean lol...
 

Shahed

Member
The Crucial MX300 750GB is on a Black Friday sale on Amazon UK. I've been monitoring it for a while now. Usually it's £160, it's now £100.

Now to buy or hope a 1TB goes on sale...
 

Mokubba

Member
The Crucial MX300 750GB is on a Black Friday sale on Amazon UK. I've been monitoring it for a while now. Usually it's £160, it's now £100.

Now to buy or hope a 1TB goes on sale...

Was just about to post this.

Bought one myself and glad I waited.
 

Shahed

Member
Was just about to post this.

Bought one myself and glad I waited.

It helps I don't have a Pro yet! My sister wanted to borrow my PS4 to play Tomb Raider so I was always planning to buy my Pro once she was done. I delayed playing Tomb Raider in order to play it on Pro as well so I don't mind the wait.
 

DavidDesu

Member
This is sort of unrelated to the topic at hand, only mildly because it's about storage but I need to ask a question, thought it better than starting a new thread. Tried searching but couldn't see anything.

I've ran into a problem. I have 50GB of free storage on my PS4 but it won't let me download even games as small as 800MB!!! (O! My Genesis). I deleted all the notifications that I could, rebuilt the database and it's still not working. I know the old caveat was still there that you needed double the file size space to install stuff, but this is ridiculous. I don't want to delete any more things just to be able to install small new games. And I just bought Dear Esther, O! My Genesis, and Tumble and I'd quite like to play them thanks!


Is there any solutions to this? I've only ever seen people complain about needing double the space, but not this...
 
The Crucial MX300 750GB is on a Black Friday sale on Amazon UK. I've been monitoring it for a while now. Usually it's £160, it's now £100.

Now to buy or hope a 1TB goes on sale...

Jet.com has the Crucial MX300 for $203 if you use the promo code for new customers. I bought that one and the 750GB MX300 fron Amazon.
 

Shahed

Member
Glad I decided to get the Crucial MX300 750GB. Amazon have no more stock so it's back to £160.

I've heard some things about needing to maybe upgrade the firmware before putting it in a console. Would I need some kind of enclosure in order to do so? Never really messed around with SSD's before
 

Mokubba

Member
Glad I decided to get the Crucial MX300 750GB. Amazon have no more stock so it's back to £160.

I've heard some things about needing to maybe upgrade the firmware before putting it in a console. Would I need some kind of enclosure in order to do so? Never really messed around with SSD's before

where did you hear that from?
 

Shahed

Member
where did you hear that from?
While I was researching the drive at a few places, including Crucials own forums. The drive is meant to be pretty good, but supposedly the 750GB version released first as a limited edition. The rest of the more regular sizes came a little bit later and had the newer firmware built in.

Who knows what the difference between the firmwares actually are. We also bought the 750 just now so it probably might be built in at this point. I was just curious as to what the process would be if it was needed
 
While I was researching the drive at a few places, including Crucials own forums. The drive is meant to be pretty good, but supposedly the 750GB version released first as a limited edition. The rest of the more regular sizes came a little bit later and had the newer firmware built in.

Who knows what the difference between the firmwares actually are. We also bought the 750 just now so it probably might be built in at this point. I was just curious as to what the process would be if it was needed

Well it's almost always

1. Plug into PC, lots of methods here:
- Internally using SATA cables
- externally using eSATA to SATA cable
- externally using a drive enclosure and USB or eSATA
- externally using a hot swap dock
2. Download firmware installer from manufacturer
3. Run software

Some firmware installers are destructive (wipes drive) while others are not. Some require command line, others run fine in Windows proper.

The biggest problem you will have is that it might (?) not be possible to tell the firmware version for your drive unless you plug it into a PC and use their firmware checker, because not all drives get a stamp or sticker to tell you that.
 

Shahed

Member
Well it's almost always

1. Plug into PC, lots of methods here:
- Internally using SATA cables
- externally using eSATA to SATA cable
- externally using a drive enclosure and USB or eSATA
- externally using a hot swap dock
2. Download firmware installer from manufacturer
3. Run software

Some firmware installers are destructive (wipes drive) while others are not. Some require command line, others run fine in Windows proper.

The biggest problem you will have is that it might (?) not be possible to tell the firmware version for your drive unless you plug it into a PC and use their firmware checker, because not all drives get a stamp or sticker to tell you that.

Oh that's cool. Thanks. Wiping the drive isn't an issue since I'd be doing it on a fresh SSD anyway and I think my PC has an eSata port. I'll just need to get a cable.

Ir I'll just take it to my brother in law's PC shop and see if he can do it for me.
 
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