LegalEagleMike
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sounds like the people who have been looking forward to the game the most will enjoy it.
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The Last Guardian: Review Thread
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Banjo-Kazooie
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I edited why I think that. Review on base PS4 should be mandatory for any sort of credibility. It is where I would say 90% of the audience looking to purchase games are (a total guess since we have no Pro numbers but you should get what I mean)
People don't always base reviews around technical issues. It might be a more personal thing and if the game really connects, perhaps like most every other game is incapable of doing, that this person loves it so much, technical issues and all, that they give it a ten.
Once more do you not remember the state the Witcher 3 launched in and the kinds of scores it was getting despite all the rather obvious issues?
More_Badass
Member
10/10 doesn't mean a game is perfect
It just means the overall package was so good the writer feels it's worth the highest praise they can give
Dangansona
Member
Can we please stop bringing FFXIII scores into every reviews thread like it means a damn thing?
And on a personal note, I actually like FFXIII a good bit so it's tiring to see it used as the objective marker of trash.
And on a personal note, I actually like FFXIII a good bit so it's tiring to see it used as the objective marker of trash.
I never ignore anyone. I just scroll past if I see some of the notorious shit posters or laugh.
LookAtMeGo
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Who?
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Haha I love how I've read this explanation to people for over 20 years. Still people don't seem to understand it.
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
is there no way to turn off button prompts?
excaliburps
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Lots of stories connected to that leak as well. fluffydelusions
Member
Lightning must live on!
finalflame
Member
Sad state of mind seems most likely.
Anyways, lol @ all the "edgy" reviewers giving this a 4/10 or 5/10. Wonder how highly those outlets reviewed unimaginative yearly trash/fodder like CoD and BF. I'm not one to often claim people don't "get" something, but it's fairly clear these reviewers don't "get" this game.
Amazing that folks who have been breathlessly waiting for this game seem only interested in focusing on the negative reviews as justification for being a disappointment, while ignoring the glowing reviews the game is getting. Mind numbing.
If only they provided something other than a score to justify their opinion of the game. . .if only.
If only they provided something other than a score to justify their opinion of the game. . .if only.
Acquiescence
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If I had to hazard a guess, I would say Bloodworth. But who knows. A lot of the crew seem very eager to play it.
I've only followed this game from a distance, but I had a passing interest in it. After reading three reviews - Jim Sterling, Wired, Kotaku - I'm going to pass. I'm not clear whether the issues they all ran into directing Trico were designed to reflect how temperamental even loving, loyal animals can be, or whether they are bugs (I'm guessing the former). But they would affect me the same way: I'd go bonkers with frustration. I just have zero interest in a game were you can find the right solution and then deal with an uncooperative AI companion, even if that's the design. Everything else looks quite appealing, and I don't mind the dated visuals.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Discuss reviews, not scores.
It seems (and again I only have read a few cherry picked impressions, both positive and negative) that beside technical hiccups that may or may not be patched (fps in the 20s at times being the most obvious on OG PS4), the main problem is possibly a "feature" Ueda wanted to put in the game: A somewhat "organic" relation to Trico where he will not always (and rather not, more often at the beginning) do what you ask him to do and you might have to take extraneous steps to coerce him instead of just "do this, go there".
Sounds like some people embraced that relation and let it develop, while others seemed put off by it and chose to fight it?
Sounds like some people embraced that relation and let it develop, while others seemed put off by it and chose to fight it?
Lion Heart
Banned
I just woke up. Ueda you beautiful bastard you. YES!
Thanks this makes the reading legendary. What a moment. All these years later, its potentially a masterpiece.
Thanks this makes the reading legendary. What a moment. All these years later, its potentially a masterpiece.
Radical Edward
Member
Wha? Bloodborne had a ton of technical issues and is many people's GOTG. Games can transcend tech issues.
Disagree Guy
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It's exactly this kind of thing that makes me think I'll dislike this game... I can't stand bad companion AI. If Resi 4 didn't have that terrible young girl to look after it'd be an amazing game.
I don't get the whole 'ignore these aspects and it's a 10'. I know it gets alot of love here so I'm not bashing the game but I've gotta admit it's reading things like this, which really put me off buying it.
Yeah that sums me up pretty much haha
Bloodworth
Unknown?
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Yeah this is terrible logic. "My opinion on something discredits someone else's "
This thread is exactly like the FF XV review thread. Trying so hard to make an 84 and an 82 look as bad scores.
About performance issues on Ps4 i was totally expecting it and already said an average of 25 fps is good for me,that seem to be the case. Performance issues will be annoying at first but i will forget them as soon as i will immersed in Trico's world.
About performance issues on Ps4 i was totally expecting it and already said an average of 25 fps is good for me,that seem to be the case. Performance issues will be annoying at first but i will forget them as soon as i will immersed in Trico's world.
Most of the people coming in and harping on the negative reviews I barely saw in any of the TLG threads. Not saying that's entirely the case but I suspect there is more than a minor percentage of people out there who were hoping the game would bomb and are pouncing on any opportunity to push that narrative. Also this doesn't mean the negative reviews don't are wrong or bad or anything either but some people want to focus on them like they are the end all and be all.
They post the script for all their reviews on their website now. I don't think it's a coincidence that both things happened around the same time.
Yeah, I was referring to OpenCritic.
So Metacritic weighs review sites now? That's an interesting concept.
LookAtMeGo
Member
I also think this is a great way to create a bond between the player and Trico. Much like it is training a real pet.
fluffydelusions
Member
I imagine that target wishlist plus 5% red card thing still works?
Omnistalgic
Member
Think your missing out on something special personally.
Pick it up when it's cheap, and play in a relaxed state is my suggestion.
DrunkShogun
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Witcher 3 was a glitchy mess that led to multiple restarts but was the goty for me so I think I will manage with tlg if it hits the highs points witcher did. Have a ps4 pro so shouldn't be too effected by the frame issues.
You could say that in the other way. I mean, I'm glad that people will get the games they're waiting for since so long, but I've seen some really dumb things said from people who absolutely want to defends the game.
A game that is constantly under 20fps on base PS4 is not acceptable, not forgivable and is an entirely valid reason to give a low score based on this alone. If the camera is bad, even though it's the same as the good olds Ueda game, it's still a con and a valid reason to not buy the game. And yes, it's allowed to call the game a disappointment for all these technical reasons, even if the game's a masterpiece on everything else.
TheStruggler
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I think people who arent patient will dislike this game because they are so used to AI doing what they want, however Ueda built a creature in this game, which responds like one as well where it doesnt always listen or do what you say until your bond with it deepens, thats where the beauty comes in.
GodParticle
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I'm pretty much the same on 10/10 reviews. I have yet to see gaming perfection, though some have come really damn close
People aren't ignoring them in many cases, they just weren't as affected by them that it became a huge issue.
DoubleTake
Member
This is exactly what im seeing. Good synopsis.
Jawbreaker
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It's a game that rewards patience and observance. It's by design; the beast itself is a part of the puzzle. If you grow frustrated and aren't fond of this mechanic, you're going to struggle. The game rewards you for taking the time to bond and "teach" Trico — just like a relationship with a real pet would.
Perfectly summed up.
I guess people just want something else.
I enjoyed Uncharted 4 but it was never a 9 for me. I just stopped playing Ratchet and Clank even though I borrowed it for free from the library.
Maybe something a little bit different and not derivative of anything is mostly welcome to a lot of people. We have been playing the same kinds of games and they all get funneled down into this certain game standard that we have all shared throughout the years, getting "better" by more responsive controls, better image quality, etc. but essentially the same core underneath.
I welcome this kind of experience and won't hold its "issues" as problems but rather as something different. I'd have no qualms with an AI which does not listen to my inputs.
For sure, a lot of people will do something else when Trico does not respond the first five times. Jump around, climb on its back, give it food, whatever. The same way people find ways to entertain themselves outside the game rules.
sabertoothzombie
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I've got the Pro so I'm less worries about the framerate issue. Beyond that, I'm happy to see it above 80. I preordered it and seeing all the reviews I'm not going to cancel it.
That is because some people have invested so much in wanting these two games to fail that now it's understandable they can only be disappointed, so they'll try to spin the situation regardless, focusing on what they want to read and ignoring how the average metacritic is really good and the game is getting many perfect scores from influential websites as well.
10/10 doesn't mean perfect.
Zombie James
Banned
Sounds about right to me. Sounds a lot like the relationship with Agro in SotC, which I loved.
Was his vision to have clunky controls and really bad FPS drops because thats what im seeing in most negative reviews :0
It has always done that (or has it for a long time already anyway)