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Anyone know of a cheap and small ATX cases?

I want to use some spare parts I have (including an ATX board) to build a new PC for my parents. The case they have now is a mATX, so my board won't fit.

I don't want anything too big since they are used to the small case but I also don't need a lot of bells and whistles.

Corsair 270R? NZXT Source 210?
 

Afrodium

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Sounds like RAM. Use 1 stick of RAM only to test.

In the end you were completely right. I just didn't have my RAM seated properly (both sticks!). I completely disassembled my PC, reapplied thermal paste to the CPU, tested my PSU with a paperclip, and was testing a bare bones rig on a cardboard box, and it was just the stupid RAM not being pushed in all the way.
 

iamblades

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Anyone know of a cheap and small ATX cases?

I want to use some spare parts I have (including an ATX board) to build a new PC for my parents. The case they have now is a mATX, so my board won't fit.

I don't want anything too big since they are used to the small case but I also don't need a lot of bells and whistles.
Fractal design define S if you want a tower form factor, or node 605 if you want an HTPC form factor.
 

Ashhong

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Am I allowed to cross post an item for sale in here? If not, let me know and I'll remove this..

FOR SALE

Like new, Corsair RM650 Fully Modular Gold Rated 80+ Power Supply

I've had this for maybe a year or so now, and it has worked flawlessly. I only played League of Legends my PC and never even overclocked my CPU. I doubt the fan has so much as turned on. I have all of the cables and accessories but not the original box. I do have a box from my new PSU though so it can be packaged securely.

I am looking for $50 which I think is fair. Local highly preferred, I am in Southern California, OC-LA-IE area. If you want it shipped we can figure it out. Let me know if you have any questions
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Dave_9200

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Final specs:

Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 51.4 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler
Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Seagate Expansion 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Asus BC-12D2HT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
Corsair Air Series White 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan
Fractal D​esign Sile​nt Series ​R3 140mm C​ase Fan £12.37
Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor
DBPower RG​B Keyboard
Jelly Comb 4000 DPI Professional USB Wired Gaming Mouse
Logitech G930 7.1 Channel Headset
Steelseries Artic 7 Headset
Logitech Z200 0W 2ch Speakers


Hi :), how good is the shadow rock 2? Can you talk me about temps and noise levels?
 

TMWNN35

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whats the go with HDR and pc monitors?

I dont have a modern screen but id rather wait for HDR goodness than just buy now.

Dont mind rocking the 1080p tv a bit longer.
 
I'm looking at buying more RAM for my computer as I have a $40 giftcard at NCIX.ca. The only problem is they no longer carry my specific model of ram: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445&_ga=1.23296314.1891154911.1480105147

Would I run into any issue if I bought these, to upgrade to 16g total?
http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjaws-x-8gb-2x4gb-50-57953.htm?promoid=1341

Would be fine, though they would all run at the slightly slower timings of the newer sticks.
 

Eblo

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Just finished my first build ever. Took about 4 hours on my own with no breaks. I didn't encounter any major issues beyond a loose cable here and there. I'm quite pleased with myself for being able to manage this so well. I guess binge watching build videos on YouTube paid off. I just tried running DOOM at max settings, and it was glorious. Now I'm just trying to see what all I can do that I couldn't before. 144 Hz is pretty freaky at first.

Parts list for the curious
 

Jeff6851

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So I need a new network adapter because my current one is not compatible with Windows 10 Anniversary for some reason. I would prefer something external and cheap (around $10).
 

ParityBit

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Can a MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING Z 8G handle an Acer Predator 34-inch Curved UltraWide QHD or ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q?

I am thinking of upgrading my monitor and I am not sure what direction to go in. So I am looking for some advice to help with my research.
 
Can a MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING Z 8G handle an Acer Predator 34-inch Curved UltraWide QHD or ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q?

I am thinking of upgrading my monitor and I am not sure what direction to go in. So I am looking for some advice to help with my research.

What games do you like to play? As long as you're willing to lower settings I think the 1070 would still be pretty potent at 3440x1440. I use mine at 2560x1440 and I'm very satisfied.

I'm not sure if you'll run into issues with ultrawide compatibility in games though, so that's something to consider.
 

Raw64life

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Not sure what to do with my Seagate 4TB HDD.

Put it in my build, copied all my files to it. The next day it disappeared from My Computer and showed up as failed on the diagnostics. So I formatted it and created a new volume and it's working again.

Is that considered fixing it or should I not risk it and just get a replacement?
 
So, I almost died about 4 days ago, had emergency gall bladder surgery, had grandpas funeral 2 days later, doctors still trying to figure out a problem with my heart... I am pretty doped up atm. I apologize if this question seems really obvious but I am trying to stress as little as possible.

I was able to grab one of the crucial 750GB SSD's on black Friday. I want to use it as a dedicated modding hard drive for use only with games that I heavily mod. Atm that means Skyrim.

So, my question is. How do I install this thing? Literally just like I did with my Samsung evo 500GB SSD when I built my rig? Just plug and go? Anything else I need to know?

EDIT: Am I going to have to delete and reinstall all of my Skyrim stuff onto the new drive? I assumed that would be the easiest right?
 

kennah

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So, I almost died about 4 days ago, had emergency gall bladder surgery, had grandpas funeral 2 days later, doctors still trying to figure out a problem with my heart... I am pretty doped up atm. I apologize if this question seems really obvious but I am trying to stress as little as possible.

I was able to grab one of the crucial 750GB SSD's on black Friday. I want to use it as a dedicated modding hard drive for use only with games that I heavily mod. Atm that means Skyrim.

So, my question is. How do I install this thing? Literally just like I did with my Samsung evo 500GB SSD when I built my rig? Just plug and go? Anything else I need to know?

You'll need to go in to Disk Management to initialize it, but yeah, that's pretty much it. Then when you install something on Steam you can point it towards that drive.
 

Sober

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The XBONE controller on Windows 7 is always going to be gimped in terms of how it works with the rest of the system right?

In the Devices and Printers window it shows up with a generic "Controller" name and image even though the 360 works fine. Also, the 360 controller works fine with launching Steam Big Picture mode from the guide button but not the XBOne one?

I guess at least the controller itself is good.

I'm not even gonna mention the stupidity involved to finding the drivers cause MS doesn't want to host the installer for the drivers.
 
Vindication!

As of 2016 December, the RX 480 matches the 1060's performance in DX11 and beats it in DX12.

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The GTX 1060 6GB versus RX 480 8GB saga obviously doesn’t end here and if the last few months are anything to go by, these cards will be fighting tooth and nail until the day they’re replaced. What AMD has accomplished between Polaris’ initial rollout and now is impressive to say the least but their board partners have given the RX 480 a slight premium above its $240 launch price. NVIDIA on the other hand is hanging doggedly on and their board partners have responded by lowering the GTX 1060’s entry price. This has caused what should have been a runaway AMD win to degenerate into a tit-for-tat situation

So which one of these would I buy? That will likely boil down to whatever is on sale at a given time but I’ll step right into and say the RX 480 8GB. Not only has AMD proven they can match NVIDIA’s much-vaunted driver rollouts but through a successive pattern of key updates have made their card a parallel contender in DX11 and a runaway hit in DX12. That’s hard to argue against.

Hardware Canucks Review can be found here: A World Flipped On Its Head
 
I'm ordering parts for my build mentioned below, but I am having second thoughts about my PSU. Will 550W be suffucient, even when overclocking? PCPartpicker says the entire system draws 310W and when overclocked it should be around 400W, but I would like to be sure.

Is the 550W version OK for my build or should I go for the 650W? What are the advantages of going with a higher wattage PSU?

Hi GAF, what do you think of the build below?

I'm building my first PC and this is as much as I could fit into my budget of 1500 euro. I looking at 1440p gaming at ultra settings and 60 fps. I will be gaming on it primarily, but also some video encoding.

I want the build to be as clean, quiet and relatively small as possible (not into case modding, RGB lighting and stuff), that's why I opted for the Define Nano case.

Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S Zwart
Case fan: Fractal Design Dynamic GP-14 White blades
Mobo: Asus Z170I Pro Gaming
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GS (V2)
CPU: Intel Core i7 6700K
CPU cooler: Noctua NH-U12S
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 AERO 8G OC
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2x8GB) @ 3GHz
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO M.2 500GB
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home NL 64bit OEM
 
Hi :), how good is the shadow rock 2? Can you talk me about temps and noise levels?

Hi. It's really, really big. I didn't expect it to be so big as it sits over the ram slots in the motherboard. But it's performance is excellent and keeps the CPU in the low 20's. Truth be told I can't hear it. The only thing I can hear from my PC are the 2 fans at the top. The cooler itself as far as I can tell is near silent.
 

ParityBit

Member
What games do you like to play? As long as you're willing to lower settings I think the 1070 would still be pretty potent at 3440x1440. I use mine at 2560x1440 and I'm very satisfied.

I'm not sure if you'll run into issues with ultrawide compatibility in games though, so that's something to consider.

I play pretty much everything. What hit do you think it would take, using lower settings? That would really suck to not be able to run at the very high points.

Also, what sort of issues with the Ultrawide issues? The thread on UW monitors is pretty dead so getting the info is slow/stagnant.
 
So, I almost died about 4 days ago, had emergency gall bladder surgery, had grandpas funeral 2 days later, doctors still trying to figure out a problem with my heart... I am pretty doped up atm. I apologize if this question seems really obvious but I am trying to stress as little as possible.

I was able to grab one of the crucial 750GB SSD's on black Friday. I want to use it as a dedicated modding hard drive for use only with games that I heavily mod. Atm that means Skyrim.

So, my question is. How do I install this thing? Literally just like I did with my Samsung evo 500GB SSD when I built my rig? Just plug and go? Anything else I need to know?

EDIT: Am I going to have to delete and reinstall all of my Skyrim stuff onto the new drive? I assumed that would be the easiest right?


If it's installed on Steam, no you don't have to. Just use steam mover to get it to the new folder/drive.
 

Necrovex

Member
I am flirting with building a PC when I return home next spring. I planned on using Haz's list but I noticed it has been a while since he has updated it. Is there anything that would be significantly different in the great value section when I construct my PC in early 2017? Like major price differences and better parts per value now compared to July?

Looking to spend $900 max and using the other bonus money I'll get on a Surface Pro 5 (assuming that's out by spring).
 
I am flirting with building a PC when I return home next spring. I planned on using Haz's list but I noticed it has been a while since he has updated it. Is there anything that would be significantly different in the great value section when I construct my PC in early 2017? Like major price differences and better parts per value now compared to July?

Looking to spend $900 max and using the other bonus money I'll get on a Surface Pro 5 (assuming that's out by spring).

Zen will be out for desktop by then so you will likely be getting double the bang for your buck CPU-wise. Also expect Vega and the Pascal refresh to hit H1 2017 so GFlops/$ will also go up by around 10-20%. I would wait unless there is something you desperately want to play before spring.
 

Necrovex

Member
Zen will be out for desktop by then so you will likely be getting double the bang for your buck CPU-wise. Also expect Vega and the Pascal refresh to hit H1 2017 so GFlops/$ will also go up by around 10-20%. I would wait unless there is something you desperately want to play before spring.

Excellent to hear about Zen. I don't expect to build my PC until March at the earliest. Always good to find ways to save some extra $$$. Anything left over might be invested into a PS4 Pro or a Switch.
 

Dave_9200

Neo Member
Hi. It's really, really big. I didn't expect it to be so big as it sits over the ram slots in the motherboard. But it's performance is excellent and keeps the CPU in the low 20's. Truth be told I can't hear it. The only thing I can hear from my PC are the 2 fans at the top. The cooler itself as far as I can tell is near silent.

Thank you very much for the info, i'm going to build a new pc soon and i was very hesitant about which cpu cooler to choose.
 

ACE 1991

Member
My buddy wants to build a PC for some light gaming but mostly workstation stuff (some video editing, music production). Any build recommendations? His budget is currently $700 all in, he has a monitor/keyboard.
 

vector824

Member
My buddy wants to build a PC for some light gaming but mostly workstation stuff (some video editing, music production). Any build recommendations? His budget is currently $700 all in, he has a monitor/keyboard.

i5 6600K with an RX480/1060 and 8-16gb DDR4 2400-3000MHZ would do the trick. But for only $700 he's really going to be struggling to get something that's going to be worth it for video editing.

This is dropping down to a 470 and a i5-6500 and is still over budget: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YLb92R

If you drop the CPU cooler and SSD you can get under budget: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CFYFbj
 

ACE 1991

Member
i5 6600K with an RX480/1060 and 8-16gb DDR4 2400-3000MHZ would do the trick. But for only $700 he's really going to be struggling to get something that's going to be worth it for video editing.

This is dropping down to a 470 and a i5-6500 and is still over budget: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YLb92R

If you drop the CPU cooler and SSD you can get under budget: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CFYFbj

Thanks! I actually misspoke when I said he wanted to do video editing, more photoshop/illustrator work and some gaming. I dropped the GPU to a 460 since he really doesn't care much about playing on high settings at 1080p, and instead went with a 6600K, which he can save money on because we live near a microcenter. I've used the rest of your build though, thanks for the link!
 

Mupod

Member
Didn't have enough confidence in AMD and the Canadian dollar to wait on a build, myself. Also the synthetic benchmarks I'm seeing for the 7700k...well, I'm glad I didn't wait. Remains to be seen how it really ends up but I doubt I'd be able to get anywhere near the prices I got from black friday for my 6700k build anyways.
 

vector824

Member
Thanks! I actually misspoke when I said he wanted to do video editing, more photoshop/illustrator work and some gaming. I dropped the GPU to a 460 since he really doesn't care much about playing on high settings at 1080p, and instead went with a 6600K, which he can save money on because we live near a microcenter. I've used the rest of your build though, thanks for the link!

Perfect. Bump to a better GPU in two years and he'll be set for awhile.
 

thenexus6

Member
Probably a dumb question but, I have a EVGA 500W Fully Wired 80+ white power supply and plan on buying a MSI RX 470 4GB soon. The MSI site recommends a 500W PS, so i'm good to go right?
 

LilJoka

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Exactly what GTX 1070 is this?

The graphs look ok, it seems the nasty points are where the fps is holding at 60 but the frametime is varying from 5-30ms. Thats whats causing the massive stuttering feeling.

Its either the game, you have an EVGA 1070?, some RAM issue which causes game to break at some random time.
In nvidia control panel, set the global settings to default. Set the game settings in nvidia control panel to follow global settings.

If this was a motherbaord issue i expect it would manifest in all games. With RAM issues it can be random depending on how the game handles it, and its memory allocation.

Have you dropped the memory frequency to 2133Mhz? Try giving the RAM a bit more voltage than spec. 1.3v should be plenty. If its rated at 1.35v, give it 1.37v.
 

ParityBit

Member
Can a MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING Z 8G handle an Acer Predator 34-inch Curved UltraWide QHD or ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q?

I am thinking of upgrading my monitor and I am not sure what direction to go in. So I am looking for some advice to help with my research.

What games do you like to play? As long as you're willing to lower settings I think the 1070 would still be pretty potent at 3440x1440. I use mine at 2560x1440 and I'm very satisfied.

I'm not sure if you'll run into issues with ultrawide compatibility in games though, so that's something to consider.

Is there a preferred out of these two? A 3rd option?
 
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